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Poll: For those of you from other WG titles, do you like partial or full line releases at one time better? (12 members have cast votes)

Where do you stand on Partial line releases(WoWP's style of releasing)?

  1. 100% like Partial line releases(WoWP's style of releasing) (2 votes [16.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  2. mostly like Partial line releases(WoWP's style of releasing) (5 votes [41.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 41.67%

  3. so so on the Partial line releases(WoWP's style of releasing) (4 votes [33.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 33.33%

  4. more against than in favor of Partial line releases(WoWP's style of releasing) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. ABSOLUTELY HATE Partial line releases(WoWP's style of releasing) (1 vote [8.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

Where do you stand on Full line releases(WoT, WoWS style of releasing)?

  1. 100% like Full line releases(WoT, WoWS style of releasing) (3 votes [25.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  2. mostly like Full line releases(WoT, WoWS style of releasing) (2 votes [16.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  3. so so on the Full line releases(WoT, WoWS style of releasing) (5 votes [41.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 41.67%

  4. more against than in favor of Full line releases(WoT, WoWS style of releasing) (2 votes [16.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

  5. ABSOLUTELY HATE Full line releases(WoT, WoWS style of releasing) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

Of the two, which version of releasing new tech tree vehicles do you prefer

  1. Partial line releases(WoWP's style of releasing) (7 votes [58.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 58.33%

  2. Full line releases(WoT, WoWS style of releasing) (5 votes [41.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 41.67%

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legoboy0401 #1 Posted 20 February 2019 - 12:28 AM

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No complaining here, I just found myself wondering how popular the way WoWP releases new lines is.

 

Do most people like it, or is the full-line release more popular?

 

Just asking. For those who have experienced the full line release style, the poll is there. For the rest of you, you can try and weigh in in the comments if you want, but know that I'll take your words with a grain of salt.

 

 

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SpiritFoxMY #2 Posted 20 February 2019 - 12:53 AM

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Vote: stabilise the game, balance it and THEN add new lines.


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legoboy0401 #3 Posted 20 February 2019 - 12:59 AM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 19 February 2019 - 04:53 PM, said:

Vote: stabilise the game, balance it and THEN add new lines.

 

Agreed wholeheartedly, but WG won't listen. I just want to know WHEN WE DO GET NEW LINES, WHICH IS THE PREFERRED STYLE OF RELEASING THEM?

Edited by legoboy0401, 20 February 2019 - 01:02 AM.

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wylleEcoyote #4 Posted 20 February 2019 - 08:15 AM

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Im in favor of partial releases.

Consider that many lines of development matured VERY fast and changed directions quite a bit historically speaking.
With Post WW1 Biplanes at tier 1
A Decade and a Half of the Golden era of Aviation Development crammed into tiers 2-4. 
Followed by the 5 years between the Spanish civil war and the Battle of Britain  shoe horned into tier 4-5
The Pacific War. The Eastern Front.  And The entire strategic air campaign against the german heartland.
packed into tiers 5 through 7 
And finally the introduction of Jet engines and Nuclear armed Intercontinental strategic Bombers at tier 7 and pretty much a decade+ of post war aviation development up to (but not including) the introduction of guided air to air missiles for tiers 8-10 

Is it any wonder that the one nation that was involved in all of that (except for the pacific) has a tech "tree" that more resembles a convoluted Shrubbery . (and this doesnt even count premiums) 
They also invented amphetamines during this time. I am sure that's related somehow...

In some cases you can understand the the progression from one plane to the next and why a nimble american tier 2 biplane armed with browning machineguns is related to a nimble tier 10 jet fighter that is also armed with browning machineguns.

Compare this to the American Heavy line. "Our (tier 4) bombers are Fast man. Too fast for our fighters."
So we get a tier 5 plane with the brilliant idea  "if one engine is good then Two is Better!"
and it evolves as expected to tier 6.
But gets an "odd" tier 6 premium that asks 'Do we Really need agility that much?' leading to
The tech tree teir 7. which also gets an "odd" premium that asks
"Maybe we do. How much can we pack into this bad boy and still have two engines?"
 Which gives us the weird as fuq teir 8 tech tree plane.
with a premium that asks " ya know that tier 5-6 was pretty good to begin with. Especially against bombers. Can just make that Only Bigger? .

and then Jet engines happen and things settle down a bit for 9 and 10.

 

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

Specialist Planes I have from : Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:   XP-31, Model 81A-1, P-40, P-51A, P-39N-1, XF15C, DH.100 F1, Fw 56, He 112, Bf 109 B / E / E-3 / F, Me 209 v4 / A, Me P.1092, I-17
Multi-Roles: Type 91, F11C-2, F4F, P-26, P-47B, Fw 190 A-1 / A-5 / D, I- 5 / 15 / 16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: P-38 F/J,  XP-58, Beaufighter,  Bf 110 C-6, Me 410, Do 335 A-1, Me 262, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: Hs 123, Ha 137, Hs 129 A, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
Bombers: Do 17 Z, He 111 H2, Pe-2, Do 217 M
 


hoom #5 Posted 20 February 2019 - 11:45 AM

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I much prefer the partial line version with some lines linking across to others at odd spots, some lines blending back into others & some lines just left hanging short of T10.

 

It enables new content to be available faster or at all when development hits snags with either finding an appropriate vehicle for some tiers, getting enough archive material or balancing stuff.

 

Early WoT was like that & it was fine.

I really enjoyed hunting through the Tech Tree planning my progress across multiple lines to ensure I get a key shared module from stock to avoid a nasty grind or get to a cool tank with minimum XP.

Now they've spent lots of time creating full lines T2-10, removing cross links, making up [edited]to fill tiers etc & outright cancelled some stuff.

 

WoWS is a nearly pure linear experience with no shared modules at all, no cross-overs & lots of made up (mostly WWII era) refits of ships (even paper ships get refits) & outright invented ships to fill numbers.

 

WoWP is in a state like old WoT and I like it, though I'm concerned that recent partial lines lacking shared modules indicates WG intends to move to the stale linear model.


Edited by hoom, 20 February 2019 - 11:46 AM.

C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le SerB.

Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #6 Posted 20 February 2019 - 03:08 PM

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There is so much to reflect on in that poll...

I'll have to get back w/ you on it

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dang... whole a lott'a thought went into the creation of this thread

hmmm

I miss Prentzalou


if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


wylleEcoyote #7 Posted 20 February 2019 - 09:41 PM

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Dont let em hear you say that...:hiding:

Fair warning. My success rate at speculative guesswork is much like my WinRate. Hit or Miss.
Usually I start on the right track and then a make a weird left turn and get lost in the weeds ... 
And yet it doesn't stop me from speculation.

Specialist Planes I have from : Japan, USA, UK, Germany, USSR, Europe
Light Fighters:   XP-31, Model 81A-1, P-40, P-51A, P-39N-1, XF15C, DH.100 F1, Fw 56, He 112, Bf 109 B / E / E-3 / F, Me 209 v4 / A, Me P.1092, I-17
Multi-Roles: Type 91, F11C-2, F4F, P-26, P-47B, Fw 190 A-1 / A-5 / D, I- 5 / 15 / 16(e)(l)

Heavy Fighters: P-38 F/J,  XP-58, Beaufighter,  Bf 110 C-6, Me 410, Do 335 A-1, Me 262, Tu-1, SE 100,

Attack Aircraft: Hs 123, Ha 137, Hs 129 A, Ju 87 G, Me 265, Me 1099 B-2
Bombers: Do 17 Z, He 111 H2, Pe-2, Do 217 M
 


Silvin #8 Posted 20 February 2019 - 09:49 PM

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I like the full line releases. It does not make me want to go down the line when there are only 3 planes - looking at you Japanese heavies...

My tier 10 vehicles

WoT (13): E 100, Jagdpanzer E 100, E 50 M, G.W. E 100, Object 140, IS-7, Batignolles-Châtillon 25 t, AMX 50 B, AMX 50 Foch B, AMX 50 Foch (155), AMX 13 105, T57, T110E5

WoWP (13): F-86A, XF-90, F7U, IL-40P, Yak-30, Su-10, Me 262 III, Me P.1102 B, Me P.1101, EF 131, Swift, Javelin, J7W3

WoWS (20): Montana, Des Moines, Worcester, Salem, Gearing, Midway, Yamato, Hakuryu, Shimakaze, Zao, Harugumo, Minotaur, Daring, Thunderer, Großer Kurfürst, Hindenburg, Khabarovsk, Grozovoi, Smolensk, République, Henri IV


legoboy0401 #9 Posted 21 February 2019 - 12:41 AM

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View PostSilvin, on 20 February 2019 - 01:49 PM, said:

I like the full line releases. It does not make me want to go down the line when there are only 3 planes - looking at you Japanese heavies...

 

Absolutely. I am completely the same way. Because of this, I probably won't even bother going down a single Japanese Tech Tree line until the Japanese Bombers come out, because they are planes that suit my style, that, and specializing ANY bomber takes an eternity, so by the time I have the FIRST out of the three specialized, THE REST OF THE LINE WILL BE IN.

View Posthoom, on 20 February 2019 - 03:45 AM, said:

I much prefer the partial line version with some lines linking across to others at odd spots, some lines blending back into others & some lines just left hanging short of T10.

 

It enables new content to be available faster or at all when development hits snags with either finding an appropriate vehicle for some tiers, getting enough archive material or balancing stuff.

 

Early WoT was like that & it was fine.

I really enjoyed hunting through the Tech Tree planning my progress across multiple lines to ensure I get a key shared module from stock to avoid a nasty grind or get to a cool tank with minimum XP.

Now they've spent lots of time creating full lines T2-10, removing cross links, making up [edited]to fill tiers etc & outright cancelled some stuff.

 

WoWS is a nearly pure linear experience with no shared modules at all, no cross-overs & lots of made up (mostly WWII era) refits of ships (even paper ships get refits) & outright invented ships to fill numbers.

 

WoWP is in a state like old WoT and I like it, though I'm concerned that recent partial lines lacking shared modules indicates WG intends to move to the stale linear model.

 

WoWS was only that way because of, I believe, the different evolution of ship design. Class designs weren't often modified into another class, for obvious reasons. I think Ise, Hyuga, Courageous, Glorious, and Furious(the latter as she was designed), were pretty much the only exceptions. The aviation cruisers were just weird cruisers, not carriers, while the battleship-carriers were both battleships and carriers, though they weren't amazing at either.

 

The trio of ridiculousness,(as I call Courageous, Glorious, and Furious-as-designed), were just enormous light cruisers.

 

Do note, though, that at present WoWS has none of these in-game.

 

 

WoT has the same tangled-web tech trees as WoWP, but when they release a line, THEY RELEASE IT ALL AT ONCE,(JUST LIKE WoWS) NOT 3 OR 4 AT A TIME.


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Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #10 Posted 21 February 2019 - 02:12 AM

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we need an emoji shooting himself in the skull

if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


Perco_lator #11 Posted 21 February 2019 - 03:09 AM

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 20 February 2019 - 07:41 PM, said:

 

Absolutely. I am completely the same way. Because of this, I probably won't even bother going down a single Japanese Tech Tree line until the Japanese Bombers come out, because they are planes that suit my style, that, and specializing ANY bomber takes an eternity, so by the time I have the FIRST out of the three specialized, THE REST OF THE LINE WILL BE IN.

 

WoWS was only that way because of, I believe, the different evolution of ship design. Class designs weren't often modified into another class, for obvious reasons. I think Ise, Hyuga, Courageous, Glorious, and Furious(the latter as she was designed), were pretty much the only exceptions. The aviation cruisers were just weird cruisers, not carriers, while the battleship-carriers were both battleships and carriers, though they weren't amazing at either.

 

The trio of ridiculousness,(as I call Courageous, Glorious, and Furious-as-designed), were just enormous light cruisers.

 

Do note, though, that at present WoWS has none of these in-game.

 

 

WoT has the same tangled-web tech trees as WoWP, but when they release a line, THEY RELEASE IT ALL AT ONCE,(JUST LIKE WoWS) NOT 3 OR 4 AT A TIME.

 

Comparing tech trees of the 3 titles is pointless, for one the the other two titles unlike WOWP are successful games that have access to more resources allowing them to release more content in a timely manner.

Another reason being that all 3 games were developed by different studios that didn't necessarily follow the exact same recipe.

With the way things are now with WOWP you should just be happy that there is a game to play & they are still releasing new content at all.

 



legoboy0401 #12 Posted 21 February 2019 - 06:10 PM

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View PostPerco_lator, on 20 February 2019 - 07:09 PM, said:

 

Comparing tech trees of the 3 titles is pointless, for one the the other two titles unlike WOWP are successful games that have access to more resources allowing them to release more content in a timely manner.

Another reason being that all 3 games were developed by different studios that didn't necessarily follow the exact same recipe.

With the way things are now with WOWP you should just be happy that there is a game to play & they are still releasing new content at all.

 

 

I am. It just makes new lines less enticing to grind a lot of the time, that is all.


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legoboy0401 #13 Posted 26 February 2019 - 05:42 PM

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Well, this is still up for debate. The score is tied at the moment. Anyone else want to give their thoughts?

An average player with an average goal: greatness, someday. Today, mediocrity will have to suffice. But no matter, I will always play to the best of my ability, and I will always strive to make the best of my ability just that little bit stronger and better.

 

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vcharng #14 Posted 27 February 2019 - 01:13 AM

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I'd have to side with WG and support partial release for this.

When they try to introduce a line with new features (such as "huge gun HF" of Japan and "ultra-long chain bomber" of US), they need a chance to watch their performance and balance them accordingly.

By releasing partially, they can minimize the initial impact to the whole gameplay and focus on handling a few problems at a time.



trikke #15 Posted 27 February 2019 - 01:35 AM

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partial releases seem better to me...   gets new planes into our hands somewhat faster, i would think

 

i like the three-baggers, like the japanese heavies and the US bombers      seems very 'manageable'

 

edit: yet another great topic, LB!


Edited by trikke, 27 February 2019 - 01:37 AM.

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