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J311yfish #21 Posted 29 January 2019 - 11:58 PM

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Here are some old (2015) thoughts on the Miles M.20, more via search

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White_Widow18 #22 Posted 30 January 2019 - 12:38 AM

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View PostJ311yfish, on 29 January 2019 - 03:47 PM, said:

Miles M.20, before specialization patch -- maybe time to revisit.

 

Also, Ki-5 is underrated.  At first glance it appears to be mediocre, but it is actually a speed demon for the tier when properly built, and still retains some maneuverability.  I am looking forward to the Kawasaki Ki-28 as a possible tier III premium for the same reason (competed against Ki-27 which won, and the Ki-33 which lost but succeeded for Navy as A5M)

 

Mmm.. the Ki-5 I still find to be completely mediocre, the guns are not good and while it -does- retain some maneuverability overall.. it's just.. not fast enough to get out of the range of other people's guns before it gets eaten. Which is the same problem with the heavies really at that tier. I appreciated the concept of an "energy" fighter at that tier, but it just feels like it falls flat to me. I -would- like to see what they do for an up-tiered sort of plane in that same vein though.

 

J311yfish #23 Posted 30 January 2019 - 01:24 AM

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 29 January 2019 - 07:38 PM, said:

not fast enough

 

 

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DrSinister #24 Posted 30 January 2019 - 02:48 AM

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What about the J8M?  It use to dominate pre 2.0, but how does it fair in Conquest nowadays?

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View PostDrSinister, on 29 January 2019 - 06:48 PM, said:

What about the J8M?  It use to dominate pre 2.0, but how does it fair in Conquest nowadays?

 

Last I checked, it was a toss up between the Me 109 TL and the J8M for the title of "Most Expensive Premium Plane That Is Garbage/ Really, Really, Really Difficult To Do Well In" so if that doesn't count for anything, I don't know what does.

 

To be fair though, it has only problems that the IRL Comet did, such as its great speed being its greatest weakness, because the pilot only had a second or two to aim and fire at a bomber before it shot past the bomber, being difficult to control, and being a fairly vulnerable target when actually hit.


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Bobby_Tables #26 Posted 30 January 2019 - 03:24 AM

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View PostDrSinister, on 29 January 2019 - 08:48 PM, said:

What about the J8M?  It use to dominate pre 2.0, but how does it fair in Conquest nowadays?

 

To be fair it was a dominant plane in 1.x for certain pilots who knew how to play it.  Some would just burn you down time and time again.  Others... well, not so much.  

 

In 2.X, it basically is like flying a yoyo:  You go up and you go down, rinse and repeat.  You can't hit anything, but you can go up and down and up and down.  Great fun, if you like going up and down and up and down.  If you stay to the end of the battle, you can collect your 1000 points, but other than that, good luck.  

 

I never see one in battle anymore.  I don't think the bots even play it anymore, I could be wrong, but I never see them.  Kinda like that Chinese JL plane...  It was super-popular but nowadays almost nonexistent (from my experience).  Could be that all the players who won the JL are now gone from the game.  


Edited by Bobby_Tables, 30 January 2019 - 03:26 AM.


SpiritFoxMY #27 Posted 30 January 2019 - 04:11 AM

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Reitousair loves his JL-1-37. I have it to, I just generally prefer other planes at that tier. 109TL is hard to play but it isn't bad. J8M otoh... I can't fly it. Again, I've seen Rei go to town in it but my record number of kills in it stands at five in a match. 

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 29 January 2019 - 10:11 PM, said:

Reitousair loves his JL-1-37. I have it to, I just generally prefer other planes at that tier. 109TL is hard to play but it isn't bad. J8M otoh... I can't fly it. Again, I've seen Rei go to town in it but my record number of kills in it stands at five in a match. 

 

Reitousair could go to town in a paper airplane with rubber band machine guns.  Reit is an outlier, not that there's anything wrong with that, some just see the code.  I don't, it's just all ones and zeros and more zeros.    

 

As for the J8, I just don't see it anymore in battle.  The JL is still a good plane, I just think that so many of the players who won it in long-ago loot boxes are gone, that we don't see it too often.  

 

Anyway, I think the J8 should be in this list as it is super-expensive (if you did not win it in an event), yet very ineffective unless it is flown by an outlier type player.  



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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 29 January 2019 - 08:11 PM, said:

Reitousair loves his JL-1-37. I have it to, I just generally prefer other planes at that tier. 109TL is hard to play but it isn't bad. J8M otoh... I can't fly it. Again, I've seen Rei go to town in it but my record number of kills in it stands at five in a match. 

 

LMG doesn't like his 109TL very much, that's for sure.

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Ok, I just took the J8M into a battle and yeah, you can get to the bombers with no issues, but their TGs will tear you apart.  Everything else takes way too many passes to kill, hell I know I had many hits, just no kills.  For 2x 30mm, they do crap for damage.  I still think the Premium Zero with 2x 30mm on it (forgot the name) does way more damage than the 30mm on the J8M.

 

Sometime I will have to take out my JL and see how it does, and I remember that last time I took the TL out in 2.0, I was like idk on it.

TL use to dominate when it was in the tech tree back in Closed Beta.  Then it became mediocre when it was turned into a Premium and Multirole pre 2.0.


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View Postlegoboy0401, on 29 January 2019 - 11:27 PM, said:

LMG doesn't like his 109TL very much, that's for sure.

 

:rolleyes:


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legoboy0401 #32 Posted 31 January 2019 - 01:32 AM

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View PostLMG, on 29 January 2019 - 10:33 PM, said:

 

:rolleyes:

 

Sorry, my mistake. I think it's SpirtFoxMY who doesn't use his much. I guess he likes it though, given he was the one mentioning it in the first place.


Edited by legoboy0401, 31 January 2019 - 01:33 AM.

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CorvusCorvax #33 Posted 31 January 2019 - 03:16 AM

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View PostwylleEcoyote, on 29 January 2019 - 07:32 AM, said:

 

Lets double down on this though.  Me 109 TL vs Me 262 . which one?

 

I love my 262.  The 109TL isn't my kind of MRF.

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I took the ME 209 V4 out for a spin again tonight.. and I just have to put it up for an honorable mention.

It is a BLAST to fly and I sincerely -like- the plane.. but actual points production? Finishing kills?

*sighs* *pats the side of the plane*

It's just got a set of water pistols that overheat way too fast IMHO.

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 31 January 2019 - 09:32 AM, said:

 

Sorry, my mistake. I think it's SpirtFoxMY who doesn't use his much. I guess he likes it though, given he was the one mentioning it in the first place.

 

My relationship with this plane varies according to how hard the enemy player wants me dead. Like most Multiroles it survives by running away from anything that can outturn it and the TL doesn't accelerate well so it's a plane that really cannot handle being jumped. 

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legoboy0401 #36 Posted 01 February 2019 - 02:28 AM

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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 31 January 2019 - 12:47 AM, said:

I took the ME 209 V4 out for a spin again tonight.. and I just have to put it up for an honorable mention.

It is a BLAST to fly and I sincerely -like- the plane.. but actual points production? Finishing kills?

*sighs* *pats the side of the plane*

It's just got a set of water pistols that overheat way too fast IMHO.

 

About the only thing it does well is vertical turnfighting with moronic bot heavies.

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View PostBobby_Tables, on 30 January 2019 - 03:24 AM, said:

 

I never see one in battle anymore.

 

Every so often, but usually when I am flying something like my Me-262.  It can outfly the shells, LOL.  Not really, but it feels like it.  I usually can catch them after they've used up all their boost and light them up.  It doesn't take much.

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Stat comparison of Bf 109F to J8M after ~7.5 hrs flight time

 

^ for the same time invested:

-- the number of kills is approximately half

-- the number of kills while defending a sector is approximately one third

-- the number of assists is approximately the same

-- the number of ADA/bombers killed is approximately the same

-- the number of assists on ADA/bombers is approximately double

 

This is just a way to quantify what has already been alluded to -- that J8M makes it very challenging to carry a match.


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TankNoob1960 #39 Posted 01 February 2019 - 09:11 AM

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I bought a few premiums when I first started to train pilots and make some creds.

I have sold off almost every one as my tech tree planes are much better and my economy is fine.

Keeping some good ones though like my XF-85, B-26, VB-10(guns) and the P39N-1 Aircobra 

Heck, I made over a million credits tonight just playing my T5 Spit V.

 

My FAVORITE Premium (maybe favorite plane period) is my XF-85 Goblin (now specialized) that I got in a Santa Bag.

Next would be my A6M3 Exp because those 30mm guns at T5 are fun and specialized it is a menace.

 

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I just ran into someone, chekoscy, or something like that, he was either RAW or X3M who dazzled me with his J8M.  I haven't seen that since 2.0 fell on our heads.
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