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NeedSupportHere #1 Posted 22 January 2019 - 06:24 AM

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I just recently started playing again for the last 2 months. The last time I played, it was way before 2.0 and bombers were not a thing. I've sort of ignored them because fighters, heavies and some multiroles have been working well for me. I had a 69% win rate until last night. I started getting into bombers and I suck... win rate dropped 3% in just a few hours and I only have about 5% efficiency in them. I went down the German line and am currently using the Ju 88a, which I have seen others get above 16,000 in. Max score I've gotten is just over 8000.... yet I average 10700. 

 

If there is anyone that can give me some tips, it would be greatly appreciated. 

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Captain_Underpants53 #2 Posted 22 January 2019 - 07:24 AM

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It's hard to know where to start without knowing what you don't know.  Anyway, if I say anything basic that you are already aware of, please forgive me. 

 

EVERY segment of a building must be destroyed.  Avoid leaving one or two segments for the enemy to get.  They will get the credit and the base will get redder.   Conversely, look for that mistake by your enemies.  Do not pass up that one little segment left of the main building of the mining plant.

 

I will address the Ju 88 because you referenced it.  It is a string bomber.  By this I mean that it drops a string of bombs along the target.  You want to start the string just prior to your bomb sight getting to the target.  This is different than a precision bomber like the Do-27M.  With it you want to drop directly on top of the target.

 

Bombers really benefit a lot from specialist status.  I don't think those wings make you any more of a target than you already are as a bomber anyway.  Demo Expert for the pilot, also Protection expert.  Armor up!  Engines, cockpit, turret, etc.  Fast bomb reloads are key for my game.  Outboard pylons do it at the expense of a little speed.

 

That bomber is weak with turret fire.  Defensive fire is best.

 

As others have said in other threads the Tier 3 Blenney ($6.00)  and the Tier 4 He 111 are good bomber trainers.   Good luck!


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SpiritFoxMY #3 Posted 22 January 2019 - 07:45 AM

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I'm not really an expert bomber pilot here but the three basic skills you need to master are Target Prioritisation, Route Planning and Defensive Flying.

 

It helps to know which targets to hit in a pass. I have screenshots which I'll dig out later but basically you don't waste precious bombs on AA positions and low value soft targets unless absolutely necessary. And you need to know how many salvos you'll need to finish off a target. Since you play Multiroles I assume you have at least a basic idea of what it takes to kill a Ground Target but for the 17z and 88A, use two salvos for medium targets, three for large ones unless you're packing Gold AOE warheads at which point you can make it one salvo and two salvos respectively. Try to hit them diagonally to maximize damage and slow down for the drop. DO NOT ATTACK Airfields - they're a waste of time since you can never capture them alone anyway. Memorise the combination of targets required to flip a cap - do some test flights in the Training room for this if you need to. 

 

Plan your routes between priority targets so you are always moving to the ones that will put the most pressure on the enemy team. Bombers require a lot more forethought and understanding of the flow of the battle than the average fighter because its a lot harder for you to counter an enemy push by flying directly at them. You also lack the luxury of repair bases since you cannot afford to lose altitude so damage is permanent unlike fighters. As a rule, plan your route to minimise the amount of radical maneuvers you have to make during your bomb run and to minimise travel time. Don't orbit a target unless there're no other viable ones within range - It's almost always better to keep moving and putting pressure on as many caps as possible than to loiter around waiting for a reload.

 

Heavy Fighters will be your bane, no matter what bomber you fly. There're two ways to counter this - high speed or high altitude. You'll never be able to outrun a fighter but you can stretch out a chase long enough to chip through their HP, crit them or draw them into friendly flak or fighters. For this, you need excellent situational awareness and immediately start boosting directly away from a pursuer before he gets into lethal range. The alternative is orbital bombardment where you fly your bomber at the fringes of its upper altitude limit so practically no one can touch you. But that method requires even more route planning than before because you simply won't have the speed to get around or run away. When engaged, jump into your turret and use your WASD keys to maneuver your bomber to keep your target inside your firing arcs. Finally, your bomber itself is a massive lump of HP which weighs more than any fighter. Don't hesitate to charge an attacking fighter coming at you from the front. At least you'll force him to turn. At best it'll be a kill for you at little cost.

 

Again, I'm not a great bomber pilot - I'm purely average - but without more detail about the problems you're facing, all we can do is generalise.

 

I'd link you to some of my bomber videos but most of them are now obsolete with the turret nerfs. If you're interested I can stick a few in here later. 


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Jazz_4 #4 Posted 22 January 2019 - 09:36 AM

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well I don't know much about a lot of bombers but with the a26b you want to hit flaps and then press s to slow down your speed for maximum bombing effect now for the b17s you want to boost when drop same with the b32 it has a ton of bombs so the same thing. hope this helps like I said I don't have a lot of bombers I only have two right now the a26b and the b32.  

ClosedCoffin #5 Posted 22 January 2019 - 07:37 PM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 22 January 2019 - 07:45 AM, said:

. DO NOT ATTACK Airfields - they're a waste of time since you can never capture them alone anyway.

 

There's a lot of good advice in this post but this may be the most important.

Although some maps you'll see at tier 4/5/6 airfields can't be avoided and it's not as bad as at higher tiers.

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Jazz_4 #6 Posted 22 January 2019 - 08:12 PM

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I have a question about the a26b. When you specialize the play and you get universal ammo unlocked is it only for the forward guns or can the tail guns also use universal ammo.

Captain_Underpants53 #7 Posted 22 January 2019 - 09:03 PM

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View PostJazz_4, on 22 January 2019 - 03:12 PM, said:

I have a question about the a26b. When you specialize the play and you get universal ammo unlocked is it only for the forward guns or can the tail guns also use universal ammo.

 

You can choose universal ammo for the tail gunner.  Whether that also applies to the nose guns is unspecified.
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ClosedCoffin #8 Posted 22 January 2019 - 09:28 PM

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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 22 January 2019 - 09:03 PM, said:

 

You can choose universal ammo for the tail gunner.  Whether that also applies to the nose guns is unspecified.

 

Yeah, no mention of forward firing guns ammo type anywhere, just gun caliber.

and because you can't fire them in Turret view I'm guessing it's not the upgraded ammo.

Maybe someone who understands tracer colors and such knows the answer.

 



sandtiger #9 Posted 22 January 2019 - 09:45 PM

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easy way to look at bombing

hit main  peace of the base

then the big structures

then small targets

 

each big part of the map well take a different amount of bombs to get 

it well take time with each bomber  to learn how many you need to  drop to take the base part

 

 

main peace of the base  for example

the military base the main structure .. the one with the  things that look like a lot of oil tanks in a row  and the  concrete building ,two tents ,  two red roof smaller buildings .. all in one box  .. this is the main target it is worth the most cap points for the base and to you if you clear all of it ....

then you hit the the big groups of tents they are the secound biggest  points to you and the cap bar

then all small targets  are worth less  to the cap and to the you 

but all targets help with the capping of a base so you just need to figure out how to

get the base as fast as you can as a bomber your job if you look at the side panel before you load in to a game

it say hit  big targets then small one

so easy

main part of the base  most cap points to bar  also most combat points to you

then the big parts of the base ..the apartment like structures they give more points to the cap bar and to you then the aa and small tent groups  

then small parts  ie the aa and the tent group that has only four tents in a square  they give the less  points 

hope this help

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Jazz_4 #10 Posted 22 January 2019 - 10:06 PM

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alright thank you for the answers I just got my a26b up to specialist status I got to save up the credits to buy the status and put on universal ammo

sandtiger #11 Posted 22 January 2019 - 10:26 PM

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oo your going to like her much better when you get that done

 



Jazz_4 #12 Posted 22 January 2019 - 10:45 PM

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oh I bet she is a blast to play but sometimes the bot heavies can be a pain in the butt.

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I don't have any "bomber" specific advice, however as far as your climb angle, you go into settings/general/advanced settings and click the boxes to show you attitude/bank...etc. The attitude will let you set a more constant angle of climb/decent.
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all great advice!      precision single bombs are the most effective for me, sadly

 

strings of bombs follow them in effectiveness, and carpet bombs from the b-17s are the least effective 

 

the latter two require much more pre-planning...  as in a specific approach angle to a path of multiple targets, for max points

 

airspeed matters too!   single bomb/string bomb accuracy increases at slower speeds, but carpet bombs destroy more targets if you 'extend' the carpet with speed boosts 

 

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Every Bomber is different... but I think the basic advice has all been covered here except one thing... gunners.

Build a gunner's skills up as fast and as high as you can and on -some- bombers.. you have no fear from aerial targets.. my aerial kills in my B-32 is regularly double digits -while- racking up insane ground damage and my RB-17.. whew.. that gunner is -mean- if used appropriately as is the A-26.. but it's all down to -gunner skill- and -your- ability to switch between flight, bomb sights, and turrets.. or just learn to fly it in bomb sights and turrets and still you have to swtich between the two.. also.. target lock is a friend for proper turreting.. make sure that is keybound -somewhere- period... Now.. even for getting -away- that gunner is -paramount-.. I always tell people that as a bomber your two most important gunner skills are defensive fire and precision gunner. Why? Because dropping the incoming damage from a -player- driven heavy by 30% is.. well giddyling broken.. and being able to blow out his pilot with those increased crits is golden.. especially when you give the pilot the 3-point skill evasive target.. because it all stacks to making them impotent in damaging you.

Now.. everything else regarding tips for bombers is specific to whether you want low altitude or high altitude bombing because both are valid.. though some bombers work better for one than another.

Oh.. pro-tip for string/cluster bombs.. hit drop a -hair- before you think you should to ensure a more solidly placed hit. It takes you brain a second to get your finger to move and also those clusters take a second to come out of the bomber itself. Secondary tip.. even cluster bombers can string bomb if the targets are clsoe enough together and they are moving fast enough. The German cluster bombers, the B-26, and the RB-17 come to mind as examples of that.. though the B-26 is far harder to achieve it in because of their cluster drop rate.
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You all have me itching to try out my bombers yet again.  I suck, and I mean really, really suck at bombers, but with all these positive waves, what could go wrong?

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Bobby you'll  do find remember on the b17s set up your run and boost and drop your bombs same with the b32 you'll do find just be aware heavy fighters will target you and some will chase you. the a26b you use your flaps and press s to slow down to drop the bomb in not sure about the other bombers hope this helps.one bit of advice team up with a friend so they can help you against heavy fighters.

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 22 January 2019 - 08:45 AM, said:

You also lack the luxury of repair bases since you cannot afford to lose altitude 

 

Is there any info at which altitude repairs can take place ??

Recently I was quite high over an airbase after taking down a bomber and I got repairs. Can't remember how high ...

 

Aha : https://blog.worldof...ics-20-repairs/

Mmm, 750 meters .. ? Thought I was much higher.


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View PostWhite_Widow18, on 23 January 2019 - 02:55 AM, said:

.. target lock is a friend for proper turreting.. make sure that is keybound -somewhere- period...

 

Which one?  Center target or hostile target...?  I haven't used those buttons in this game

 


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Lock Dangerous enemy and Lock Next Target. I use both to pick targets for the gunner when I'm in bomber mode or flight mode
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