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trikke #241 Posted 30 September 2020 - 08:28 PM

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 30 September 2020 - 01:04 PM, said:

 How fast can I get to the Swift?  ;)

 

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 30 September 2020 - 12:04 PM, said:

Spitfires are sort of eay to fly.  My time in the Vb has been a lot of T7 matchmaking, but with a speed build, it still does pretty well.

 

I went down the Ki line to get to the Salamander planes at T9 and T10, and turny plane have their charms.  The Ki-84 is great.  Maybe I'll need to finally give in and go down the Spit line.  How fast can I get to the Swift?  ;)

I wouldn't have any idea.  I have the T9 but hardly played it.  I've not got much interest in jets.  Spits are definitely easy to fly, but they're pretty easy kills for people who know what they are doing.  I didn't run into many of those while I was specializing it.


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UK: Goldfinch; Skua; Type 224; Wirraway; Bristol 146; Blenheim F; Fantome; Hurricane I, II, IId; Beaufighter, V, ; Mosquito; Boomerang; Venom; Spit I, Ia, V, Vb, IX, XIV; Tornado; Mustang I, Ia; Tempest; Seafang; Vampire |   

 | Germany: FW56; AR67; Do17Z7; BF109B, E, E-3, F, G; Bf110B; Me209v4; Spit V DB605, FW190A5   | Japan: Ki5, 61, 84, 88; A6M1, 3, A7M; | 

  ROC: Hawk II; Ki43c; Tomahawk IIb; Mosquito 26; P51K | EU: S510; B534; S199 | VVS: LaGG 3(4); P40M105; Yak7M82, 1, 1M, 3; La5


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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 30 September 2020 - 05:04 PM, said:

Spitfires are sort of eay to fly.  My time in the Vb has been a lot of T7 matchmaking, but with a speed build, it still does pretty well.

 

I went down the Ki line to get to the Salamander planes at T9 and T10, and turny plane have their charms.  The Ki-84 is great.  Maybe I'll need to finally give in and go down the Spit line.  How fast can I get to the Swift?  ;)

 

As you know Spitfires are easy mode. They are just fast enough to get around, have cannons and machine guns, turn fantastic, and have 8 seconds of boost where Japanese and Russian turny planes usually only have 6. They simply out class other turny planes in most cases. it's probably the easiest line to go down in the game. It's fantastic to take out Vampires and for some dumb reason most Vampire players don't even seem to know that a Spitfire can out turn them. The only frustrating thing about them is having to work hard to take out faster planes. But it's much easier for them than for zero's and Yak's. Best fighter line in the game in my view for most situations. Only expert players of boom and zoom tactics and expert heavy fighters players can out play them usually. 



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Spec'd the Typhy this afternoon.  Took it out with Ultimate gear, got a Lambert.  Definitely makes a difference having the boost to maneuver and speed, not to mention some boosts to the rockets.  Getting AdEx on the pilot would be another major boost, but just got him up to 7 skill points today as well.  (Marksman, Engine Guru, Demolitions Expert, Eagle-Eyed.)

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I don't have enough specialized Spitfires yet, so I re-purchased the V tonight and started a new pilot for it.

USA: XP31; F11C-2; YP29; F2A-1; XF4F-3; P36C; Hawk 81A1; P38F; XFL; XF4U-1; P39N; XP55; P-47B; F4U1,4; P51H  

UK: Goldfinch; Skua; Type 224; Wirraway; Bristol 146; Blenheim F; Fantome; Hurricane I, II, IId; Beaufighter, V, ; Mosquito; Boomerang; Venom; Spit I, Ia, V, Vb, IX, XIV; Tornado; Mustang I, Ia; Tempest; Seafang; Vampire |   

 | Germany: FW56; AR67; Do17Z7; BF109B, E, E-3, F, G; Bf110B; Me209v4; Spit V DB605, FW190A5   | Japan: Ki5, 61, 84, 88; A6M1, 3, A7M; | 

  ROC: Hawk II; Ki43c; Tomahawk IIb; Mosquito 26; P51K | EU: S510; B534; S199 | VVS: LaGG 3(4); P40M105; Yak7M82, 1, 1M, 3; La5


crzyhawk #246 Posted 08 October 2020 - 03:59 AM

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Finished up the Spit V.  It was quite a bit more difficult than the Vb, thanks to having to use a 0 skill pilot to start.

USA: XP31; F11C-2; YP29; F2A-1; XF4F-3; P36C; Hawk 81A1; P38F; XFL; XF4U-1; P39N; XP55; P-47B; F4U1,4; P51H  

UK: Goldfinch; Skua; Type 224; Wirraway; Bristol 146; Blenheim F; Fantome; Hurricane I, II, IId; Beaufighter, V, ; Mosquito; Boomerang; Venom; Spit I, Ia, V, Vb, IX, XIV; Tornado; Mustang I, Ia; Tempest; Seafang; Vampire |   

 | Germany: FW56; AR67; Do17Z7; BF109B, E, E-3, F, G; Bf110B; Me209v4; Spit V DB605, FW190A5   | Japan: Ki5, 61, 84, 88; A6M1, 3, A7M; | 

  ROC: Hawk II; Ki43c; Tomahawk IIb; Mosquito 26; P51K | EU: S510; B534; S199 | VVS: LaGG 3(4); P40M105; Yak7M82, 1, 1M, 3; La5


crzyhawk #247 Posted 11 October 2020 - 04:35 AM

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Finished up the Spit IX.  I think that's all the Spits except the IM which I can't get.

USA: XP31; F11C-2; YP29; F2A-1; XF4F-3; P36C; Hawk 81A1; P38F; XFL; XF4U-1; P39N; XP55; P-47B; F4U1,4; P51H  

UK: Goldfinch; Skua; Type 224; Wirraway; Bristol 146; Blenheim F; Fantome; Hurricane I, II, IId; Beaufighter, V, ; Mosquito; Boomerang; Venom; Spit I, Ia, V, Vb, IX, XIV; Tornado; Mustang I, Ia; Tempest; Seafang; Vampire |   

 | Germany: FW56; AR67; Do17Z7; BF109B, E, E-3, F, G; Bf110B; Me209v4; Spit V DB605, FW190A5   | Japan: Ki5, 61, 84, 88; A6M1, 3, A7M; | 

  ROC: Hawk II; Ki43c; Tomahawk IIb; Mosquito 26; P51K | EU: S510; B534; S199 | VVS: LaGG 3(4); P40M105; Yak7M82, 1, 1M, 3; La5


crzyhawk #248 Posted 13 October 2020 - 12:37 AM

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Finished the Hurricane II tonight.  That thing is such a beast.

USA: XP31; F11C-2; YP29; F2A-1; XF4F-3; P36C; Hawk 81A1; P38F; XFL; XF4U-1; P39N; XP55; P-47B; F4U1,4; P51H  

UK: Goldfinch; Skua; Type 224; Wirraway; Bristol 146; Blenheim F; Fantome; Hurricane I, II, IId; Beaufighter, V, ; Mosquito; Boomerang; Venom; Spit I, Ia, V, Vb, IX, XIV; Tornado; Mustang I, Ia; Tempest; Seafang; Vampire |   

 | Germany: FW56; AR67; Do17Z7; BF109B, E, E-3, F, G; Bf110B; Me209v4; Spit V DB605, FW190A5   | Japan: Ki5, 61, 84, 88; A6M1, 3, A7M; | 

  ROC: Hawk II; Ki43c; Tomahawk IIb; Mosquito 26; P51K | EU: S510; B534; S199 | VVS: LaGG 3(4); P40M105; Yak7M82, 1, 1M, 3; La5


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View Posttrikke, on 30 September 2020 - 08:28 PM, said:

 

swiftly?

Punny


Everything's stupid, everything's wrong

MGs are too weak and cannons too strong

The ju-87 is simply a waste

xp past the do-17z with great haste

 


crzyhawk #250 Posted 18 October 2020 - 06:05 PM

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I finished up the Bf110B today.

USA: XP31; F11C-2; YP29; F2A-1; XF4F-3; P36C; Hawk 81A1; P38F; XFL; XF4U-1; P39N; XP55; P-47B; F4U1,4; P51H  

UK: Goldfinch; Skua; Type 224; Wirraway; Bristol 146; Blenheim F; Fantome; Hurricane I, II, IId; Beaufighter, V, ; Mosquito; Boomerang; Venom; Spit I, Ia, V, Vb, IX, XIV; Tornado; Mustang I, Ia; Tempest; Seafang; Vampire |   

 | Germany: FW56; AR67; Do17Z7; BF109B, E, E-3, F, G; Bf110B; Me209v4; Spit V DB605, FW190A5   | Japan: Ki5, 61, 84, 88; A6M1, 3, A7M; | 

  ROC: Hawk II; Ki43c; Tomahawk IIb; Mosquito 26; P51K | EU: S510; B534; S199 | VVS: LaGG 3(4); P40M105; Yak7M82, 1, 1M, 3; La5


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I finally got the Sea Chicken to Spec yesterday.  Even with Ultimate gear, the test run was a big bundle of "meh."  Just does NOT handle being downtier well at all.  Still, +6 to the airspeed stat should mitigate some of the issues at tier, and the increased fire/crit chance with the gunsight Enhancements was obvious right from the get go.

 

The Hunter at Tier X is much more enjoyable, just chant "German guns!" when you line up for shots!  :playing:



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I got the Me-410 to Spec yesterday, and the Me-210 to Spec today.  Haven't had the time to actually convert and equip them yet.  Planning on pure speed builds, but willing to listen to expert opinions before hitting the "Enhance" button.

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View Postqu33kKC, on 22 October 2020 - 08:21 PM, said:

I got the Me-410 to Spec yesterday, and the Me-210 to Spec today.  Haven't had the time to actually convert and equip them yet.  Planning on pure speed builds, but willing to listen to expert opinions before hitting the "Enhance" button.

As a dedicated HF player, and with a particular interest in German HFs, I will offer "experienced" advice.  

 

No amount of turn build will make the 410 equal to the P-38J, build for build.  But, most folks don't build a 38J for turn, but for speed.  So, maybe by doing a turn build, you could get around on a speed build 38J.  You are still at a speed deficit, but your guns more than make up for it.  Currently, I build my HFs for speed, and my Me-410 is built that way, as is my Me-210.  You're not going to turn with either the 38F or the SE-100, but at least you can BnZ a SE-100, and your guns outrange and outhit a P-38F.  Crit an engine, and get vertical with a P-38, you win.



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I really love it when the HF's shoot each other a whole bunch.

 

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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 23 October 2020 - 04:03 PM, said:

I really love it when the HF's shoot each other a whole bunch.

 

:)

Like when I shoot down your HF cover so I can shooterate your bomber?



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 25 October 2020 - 12:03 AM, said:

Like when I shoot down your HF cover so I can shooterate your bomber?


Well, that ain't exactly what I meant.    :hiding:

 

But in most cases, you would be hard pressed to find my HF cover.  Seldom seen.


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Because Tier IV in a Polish Hurricane or a Fantome was suffering, I freeXP'd to the Blennie.  Flew it all day, got it to Spec.  Flew it more yesterday, until I completed the last bit of the Cowboy and Aristocrat  mission.  yay tokens!

 

Rather underpowered, I have to be real careful about how much I put the nose up.  Close-range firepower decent, once all the .303s get in range stuff starts to melt.  Still, nice to have another heavy to play with.  :great:



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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 25 October 2020 - 05:45 AM, said:


Well, that ain't exactly what I meant.    :hiding:

 

But in most cases, you would be hard pressed to find my HF cover.  Seldom seen.

I am happy to provide heavy fighter cover for your ample bomber butt.  Or is that "ample nacelles"?

In any case, as a natural HF pilot, I must shoot down what is the HF's mission - other HFs, Bombers, GAA, and the unwary Spitfire...

 



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 25 October 2020 - 12:22 PM, said:

In any case, as a natural HF pilot, I must shoot down what is the HF's mission - other HFs, Bombers, GAA, and the unwary Spitfire...

 

yep      i'm nearly to at the point of culling a ton of LFs and MRs and stocking up their pilots and equipment        i really don't fly anything else

 

flew a LF today and flopped around like fish       those things can get you killed       

 

i see things happening way over there that i need to 'correct', but there's no way i'll get there in time       grrrrrr      i have to avert my eyes


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View Posttrikke, on 30 October 2020 - 10:49 PM, said:

 

yep      i'm nearly to at the point of culling a ton of LFs and MRs and stocking up their pilots and equipment        i really don't fly anything else

 

flew a LF today and flopped around like fish       those things can get you killed       

 

i see things happening way over there that i need to 'correct', but there's no way i'll get there in time       grrrrrr      i have to avert my eyes


I recall some years ago, me encouraging you to do HFs...

So now, let me encourage you to fly the planes that fly SORT OF like HFs - energy fighters.  If you like the Me-210, you'll LOVE the Bf-109E.  The He-100.  MiG-3.  That's T5.  :)






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