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[Corsair4790805]

So in one my battles tonight, I flew my IL-2 (not yet spec'd).  It was a 1v1 on a 3 sector map - 2 missile bases, 1 garrison.   Human on Red was in a B-17D.

 

I really expected to get out-capped by the bomber.   When the game was over and I'd won (it was close - 400:372), I took a look at the other player.  136 battles, and he capped 2 sectors - the garrison.  TWICE!  I only got one cap (the northern missile base) before getting tangled up with heavies and multi-roles, though I managed to survive them all somehow and even popped a couple of the multi-roles.  Then I ditched and went back to recapture the northern missile base, but the game ended before I could recap it.

 

Say it with me, fam....target P-R-I-O-R-I-T-Y matters.

 

Then I pulled a Marseille and McGuire in my Bf 110 B - and just missed a Winged Legend and a Hero of the Skies - on a 5 sector map.   I was happy with the Marseille - I'm more likely to see a Unicorn and magic fairy dust than I am a Marseille

 

[ItsSubmersible]

Rough day running bombers. Decided to take out the 109z. I love those 30mm's! As long as I don't do anything stupid, just cruise along wiping out bombers & HF's. Actually dropped a few bombs with it as well (usually forget it's under there).

[trikke]

finished a ten token mission today, Aristocrats (UK) and Cowboys (Dallas)      

 

ty, SFMY!    for flying bombers today, so that i didn't have to compete with him for kills       he drains the whole pool every time we fly

 

first time ever that i finished the high tier part first, then mid, then low      US heavies for the high, Axis (and a bit of goose-juice) for mids

 

then the T4 Blennie heavy for the lows      i don't have any USA planes below T5, because there are no USA heavies below T5

 

still wary of flying high tiers, it's just too fast for me to compete        but i can be talked into it without much hesitation these days

[ItsSubmersible]

Messing around with the Bv. Researched out the 20mm's, tried them for a few battles and switched back to the 30's. I like the more immediate destruction they cause even if it is only short range cannon. Keep getting 2 rocket kills per game. One day I'll get the magic 3+.

[wylleEcoyote]

trikke, on 26 August 2021 - 07:48 AM, said:

finished a ten token mission today, Aristocrats (UK) and Cowboys (Dallas)      

 

ty, SFMY!    for flying bombers today, so that i didn't have to compete with him for kills       he drains the whole pool every time we fly

 

first time ever that i finished the high tier part first, then mid, then low      US heavies for the high, Axis (and a bit of goose-juice) for mids

 

then the T4 Blennie heavy for the lows      i don't have any USA planes below T5, because there are no USA heavies below T5

 

still wary of flying high tiers, it's just too fast for me to compete        but i can be talked into it without much hesitation these days

 

ItsSubmersible, on 26 August 2021 - 09:01 PM, said:

Messing around with the Bv. Researched out the 20mm's, tried them for a few battles and switched back to the 30's. I like the more immediate destruction they cause even if it is only short range cannon. Keep getting 2 rocket kills per game. One day I'll get the magic 3+.

Keep at it Guys    The glory is in the struggle.

[ItsSubmersible]

Unlocked the Starfire and Me262. Stuck the Vulcan on the Starfire and life is good! Me262, not quite so good. Going to take a while to grind out the 4 30mm's and all the bits and parts. Stock ,it is pretty so-so in my hands.

 

Decided to get the neglected lines up to at least t7/8 across the board. Currently banging head against wall in a P47. Great scores but can't buy a win. This thing can cap, just don't turn!

Edited by ItsSubmersible, 07 September 2021 - 12:56 PM.

[crzyhawk]

I was unhappy with my k/d ratio with my Spit V, so I rebought it and spammed it.  I'll probably sell it again once I get to 4:1 or so.  it didn't go as well as I'd have liked but still moved it forward.

 

EDIT:  Apparently I did enough.

Edited by crzyhawk, 13 September 2021 - 04:14 AM.

[trikke]

ItsSubmersible, on 06 September 2021 - 10:42 PM, said:

Me262, not quite so good. Going to take a while to grind out the 4 30mm's and all the bits and parts. Stock ,it is pretty so-so in my hands.

 

i haven't flown the 262 much     or maybe just once         brb            wow, i've flown it 5 times in early 2.x       i couldn't figure out the 30s

 

2.45 average       20 sorties in 5 battles, omg        an average of 4 deaths per battle         no wonder i dropped it

 

but i love the HGll!     it's almost exactly the same plane!       i've gotten a ton more german 30mm practice in the last year or so...

 

i'm trying it again!      wish me luck

 

edit:    they don't have the same guns, dammit       213s vs 108s      well, crap         well, i'll try it anyway

 

[crzyhawk]

I took my Ki-61 out tonight, I forgot just how darned good that thing is.

[wylleEcoyote]

I have been making a concerted effort of late in making the most of the Fw 252. 
A plane with an ill and (imo) undeserved reputation.
Born more from players trying to make it do things that it doesnt favor.
A steady progress has been made toward specialization. 

[CorvusCorvax]

wylleEcoyote, on 17 September 2021 - 08:36 AM, said:

I have been making a concerted effort of late in making the most of the Fw 252. 
A plane with an ill and (imo) undeserved reputation.
Born more from players trying to make it do things that it doesnt favor.
A steady progress has been made toward specialization. 

Dammit, Mr. Coyote.  Are you going to make me turn on my Ta-183 XP again?

I've never had much issue shooting down FW-252s with my P.1101 or my MiG-15, but I'm always up for some plane that has "secret sauce."  I really like surprising other players. 

[qu33kKC]

With the Battle of Britain weekend going on, I've been flying UK planes that I rarely venture out in.  Managed to complete the PP mission, so switched to ze Germans. Took the Bf-110 C-6 out for the first time in ages, and ended up with a 6-medal game.

 

Ace for 20 kills, Mc/Mc, Marseille, Hero, Legend.  Some days, the derp is stronk!  Had a Clan brother in red in a bomber, who earned a Doolittle and Thunderer.  I never actually spotted him, I suspect we were just going in circles capping red sectors and never crossing paths. 

[crzyhawk]

I had an interesting battle today, 4 human 109's vs 4 human Spitfires.  I was on team Luftwaffe in my 109F and we cleaned the RAF clocks.

[wylleEcoyote]

CorvusCorvax, on 17 September 2021 - 08:27 AM, said:

Dammit, Mr. Coyote.  Are you going to make me turn on my Ta-183 XP again?

I've never had much issue shooting down FW-252s with my P.1101 or my MiG-15, but I'm always up for some plane that has "secret sauce."  I really like surprising other players. 

Well its official. Fw252 is now Specialist. And with it every (Light and MultiRole) fighter in the German Tech Tree. 

As for the Fw 252's secret sauce? 
 

 and ... here. we. go.

 

well compared to actual air superiority fighters like the Sabre MiG and P.1101 that have no issue out turning it at any altitude ....
it has 20% more Cruising speed. It also has more about 150 extra hit points. And is harder to crit than the others.
Finally it is worth mentioning that it also comes with best in class roll rate by a significant margin in spite of its sub-par average turn time 
That is what you get stock; right out of the box. 

to tame the cannons i used an advanced (now ultimate) gunsight from battle one. I dont care about the lack of bonus skills i still get the primary Buff.
I also used an Improved Polished skin.and an Advanced Uptuned Engine. Between the two of them i get enough cruise speed to hang with heavies long enough for my cannons to connect. and enough constant acceleration to maintain that high speed indefinitely even in altimeter red zones. 

Spoiler

Even one piece of turn gear would be helpful enough in the manuverability department for killing other multiroles. (which becomes available after specialization)
While two pieces of turn gear still get you killed by proper air superiority fighters. With the added insult that without speed gear speed gear them bombers and heavies will escape unless i use boost. 

 

Ideally you slid up behind a Heavy and unless they boost away you kill them with ruthless efficiency. 
Additionally; that extra tankiness  comes in real handy. It can intercept things with tailgunners and NOT instantly get a wounded pilot a broken engine and a wing crit. 
Good luck trying that with a MiG Saber or 1102
So there you go. Either you escort bombers to keep those heavies from stopping them from flipping caps
(easy wins in tier ten that way Keep you bombers alive and let them do the heavy lifting). 

Or be an extra heavy and put those Enemy attackers and bombers under your cannons when they try to cap the one mine on the map. 
Perfect for sector defense against multiengine aircraft. 

Single engine planes are another story. Air superiority planes will kill you.

Spoiler

eventually with skill (and a little F7 help from your friends) you can sometimes delay the inevitable loss in a turn fight long enough for a team mate to intervene while you boost away.  
BUT if you spot them first AND actually connect with the guns ... they will be so messed up fixing critical damage that you might even have advantage for a turn or two.  

MultiRole aircraft are a juuuust a bit less maneuverable than the other lights. So you can; with good air to air skills, take them on and even win as often than not. 

BUT doing so is kind of time intensive. unless you are specialized and have room for that one piece of turn gear. Even then It is best  to only engage them in a 1v1 pr with back up. 

When multiple targets are available and you should switch to strictly boom and zoom.

Spoiler

Maintain a good speed and fly straight through the whole furball.  If some one gets close to your crosshairs go ahead and take some pot shots at whatever flies in front of you. 
If you miss keep on going. I fyou hit Great you took a chunk out of one. Either way you keep going. and look for something else that will fly in front of your cannons. 
If they are already damaged good ; if not then at least whoever they were fighting now has a target with nasty crit.    
Either way you keep going until you leave the cap. Maybe come back around if your six is clear. Better yet now that you are in a different part of the map check your minimap to see if there are some multiengine enemies to murder nearby. Just remember that "nearby" is a relative term for such a fast plane like the Fw 252. 

Speaking of things to avoid entirely or kill on sight if you have the drop on them; lets talk about the Swift
Definitely keep an eye out for those pesky Swifts.  They turn juuuust a bit better than you and still have your speed + altitude. Expect to use a turn and/or boost consumable to fight them.
If you are specialized you can probably take on a bot Swift. But expect to loose that fight anyway if they are specialized.  
Their primary weakness is that their guns are just as cross-eyed as yours. If not more so.

 

 

Edited by wylleEcoyote, 27 September 2021 - 10:08 PM.

[CorvusCorvax]

Since this thread hasn't gotten any love in a while, I'll give it some. 

 

Mostly, it has been the Me-109TL for specialization.  During this event, there have been a lot of tryhards out there flying their Vampires and P.1092s, and this plane doesn't really stand up to those guys very well.  But it still has been fun, and zapping B-29s with the twin 30s is gratifying.

 

Then there is the P.228.  Slow, crap turn time, middling altitude - is it good enough for T9, but you get seriously owned by anything T10.  Against T10 bombers it is surprisingly effective - I shot down more than one human-piloted EF-131 during the run with this plane.  Running Experimental Reinforced Bolt Carriers REALLY helps with killing bombers, because I can make those fantastic ADENs spit out the rounds.  I might specialize this guy, but I doubt I'll be keeping it.  I love the F2H and the Me-262 HG II way too much to spend significant time with the P.228 at T9.  It's pilot and equipment might be better spent elsewhere.  And, as we know, buying specialist means that once you've bought it, you keep it - even if you sell the plane.

 

Getting the Ju-287 to specialist is going to be a grind, I can tell.  I promised myself I would not token past this grind - if for no other reason than I want to save my tokens for the EF-131.  By the time I get to specialist on the Ju-287, I will not only have all the parts I need to upgrade all the equipment, I'll also have all the money and XP I need for the EF-131.   I do enjoy the "nuke the site from orbit" gameplay, but the roar across the landscape at 500m is also a riot.  I glidebomb sometimes, but mostly it's hang out at 4000m and invite F2Hs to come up and play.  Crit, crit, crit - boom.

 

Dropped down to T4 for the token runs - Bf110B does NOT disappoint.  Not great bottom tier, but good enough.  Fast, good guns, can play the high-low game just fine - poor T4 GAA just melt under those guns.  And T4 humans , if they don't see it coming, well...

 

Now, I need to play the mid tiers to finish off my token runs.  I haven't played the XP-54 in a while.  Maybe I'll suck in it?  You never know...

Well, there's always the P-38F.

[CorvusCorvax]

A little bit of mid-day fun.

Started off with the Masha.  Decided I wasn't really going to pay the iron price for the spec wings, so I paid the gold price.  A speedy turnbuild, with LWWF, LWPU, polished skin and uprated engine.  Like the stock Masha, except more.  First flight with the spec build reveals that my previous impression of the unspecced plane being sluggish was pretty accurate.  It is now much more spritely.  It also turns VERY well, and will compete in it's white speed range with everything but Goblings and Yak-19s.  Get the speed down into the yellow, edging into red?  It turns REALLY well.  Stupid Archipelago map, two CCs, two airfields.  It was a air superiority win, with the poor unspec P.228 driver on the other side wondering what just ran over him, but it was mostly the fact that I was able to cap the near CC really quickly, then use my speed to get over to the far CC before it was capped, and turn it around to blue.  Once we had both CCs, I just defended the one closest to the red spawn, and it was game over.

 

A little bit of Swallow action, first with the Me-262 HGII.  I haven't flown this guy in a while, and needed a little bit of my HF mojo back.  Top tier on the map with the dam on it, near where the plant is?  I can never remember the name of that thing.  Mountains, both CCs in valleys...  Anyway, matched up against a spec Ho-229 and a spec P-82B.  As per my usual, I F2d the map to send planes toward the plant, and went along for the ride.  I was expecting the bot bombers and GAA to show up, but I was NOT expecting both the Ho and Twin Stang.  That was fun, just because I had the speed to get it done, and they couldn't jink out of the way of those 30mm rounds.  I legit felt bad about keeping the plant away from them all battle.  I'm not sure what they could have done against me, other than both of them F3ing some bots to help out.  But then MY Twin Stang team mate cleans up the rest of the map.  The HGII is pretty good at T9, and those guys didn't have an answer.  If it had been Rei or Nue, the outcome might have been different...

So, the next battle had me in the Me-262, and I brought R4Ms along.  The Ho and Twin Stang that had been on the other team last battle was also on the other team this battle.  I had a spec RB-17 on my side, and we got to, again, fight over a plant - this time on an Albion map.  Rockets to the face is always fun.  For me, not them.  ;)  Mr. Ho-229 was not pleased.  Played the high-low game to a win.  Did not get a chance to try out the Swallow's hidden talent, but the T9 bird doesn't have it.

Since I was feeling like I needed to do some Goose hunting, I broke out my Ki-102.  My first battle felt like I was swimming in jello after all the jet fightery goodness I had been doing before.  Getting the 57mm to hit took me the better part of half the battle.  The Me-410 on the other side made a satisfying BOOM when a shell connected.  A close win, with me floundering around like I'd never flown a HF before.

One more Ki-102 battle before taking a break:

 

Scorching Sands, 2 military bases, two airfields, one central garrison.  A-26B, Spitfire I and SE-100 humans on the other side.  The two humans rounding out my side:  Bf-109E and Hurricane II.  Superiority win, cursing from the Invader player, and a low-level snapshot BOOM on the Shitfire to flip the central garrison.  VERY satisfying.

But no Geese were spotted.  I almost drug out the P-38F, just for grins, but decided I had clubbed enough seals for the day.

[trikke]

always great posts, CC

 

like we were all there with you

[wylleEcoyote]

CorvusCorvax, on 06 October 2021 - 05:37 PM, said:

A little bit of mid-day fun.

Started off with the Masha.  Decided I wasn't really going to pay the iron price for the spec wings, so I paid the gold price. 

"From iron cometh strength!
From strength cometh will!
From will cometh faith!
From faith cometh honor!
From honor cometh iron!"



 

CorvusCorvax, on 06 October 2021 - 05:37 PM, said:

Like the stock Masha, except more.  First flight with the spec build reveals that my previous impression of the unspecced plane being sluggish was pretty accurate.  It is now much more spritely.  It also turns VERY well, and will compete in it's white speed range with everything but Goblings and Yak-19s.  Get the speed down into the yellow, edging into red?  It turns REALLY well.  

 

There is its gimmick. Perfect for Ram The Rabbit me-thinks. 

[trikke]

wylleEcoyote, on 08 October 2021 - 11:07 AM, said:

There is its gimmick. Perfect for Ram The Rabbit me-thinks. 

 

hmmm     now i'm interested!

[CorvusCorvax]

Finished up the P.228 grind to the Javelin.  Now that I have a 100% win rate in the Javelin, I think I'll just let it decorate my hangar. 

 

Oh, and because of the row of potatoes I had to hoe, I got specialist before I got enough points to get the Javelin. LOLOLOLOLOL.  I swear to Odin, I could not get these morons to do ANYTHING worthwhile.  Vampire with two 3400PP battles in a row.  Spit XIV with 1500 total points at the end of the battle.  [facepalm]

 

Yes, if I were any good, I could carry them.  But I can barely carry myself.  

 

Bought specialist for the P.228, robbed it of its equipment and consumables, moved the pilot to the Javelin.  Some day, when I'm feeling froggy, I'll bust out the P.228 again.  Who knows?  Maybe for Rivertown Bomber Busting on SNL?