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LBAEZ #1 Posted 10 December 2018 - 12:10 AM

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any suggestions on how best to use the F84F   t10 jet  and whats the best combo of payload to use now that they took away the option of loading how many rockets or bombs you like to carry? also whats the best balance of equipment to upgrade once you specialized which I am close to doing?

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Greg_Pattinson #2 Posted 10 December 2018 - 02:39 AM

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right in my wheel house!  personally I think the f84f is the best all around plane in the game.  full maneuverability build with ADE pilot skill gives a 9.7s turn time. Reinforced airframe to better handle the AA and will eliminate all penalties from the light weight wing. Mary plus hard points makes it have a better payload than any thing else including GAs.  one pass a mine in a single dive.....yep!  solo cap any sector in a single pass....yep!  More maneuverable than anything but the tightest turning LFs to defend the sectors you just took....yep!  No other plane is as well rounded as the F84.  GAs and bombers are really only good at killing ground targets and they take a long time to get to the next sector.  LFs only kill aerial targets so all 3 of those classes are out.  All that's left are MR and HF.  Even stock you can out turn any other MR buy a full second never mind HFs.  With all that payload you can do a GAs job better than a GA and get to sectors faster and get the cap before they even show up.  Other MRs and HFs don't even come close to that kind of capping ability.  Most people will criticize the guns and admittedly it is the weakest point of the plane but they are still good enough to sit behind a flight of bombers and take them all out.  And just for added fun, if ground pounding isn't your thing or you just don't feel like it that day, all those rockets make it one of the easiest planes to get rocket kills with besides planes with dedicated aerial rockets.  1 bomber + 1 tiny tim =1 dead bomber.  HF bots and ADAs will always try to ram you head on in your MR if you give them a chance so blow a load of HVARs in their face!

LBAEZ #3 Posted 10 December 2018 - 03:08 AM

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wow thankyou sir!!! that was inspiring been flying the crap out of this bird and your right have pasted a few with rockets and the slow burning guns is like death from a thousand cuts to bombers so I will stick with improving my ground targets hits with rockets and trying to cap quickly  .07 sir thanks for the advice good luck up there

jack_wdw #4 Posted 12 December 2018 - 02:36 PM

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One of the planes i fly on a daily base.

It flies like a less maneuverable sabre with rockets and that stupid nerfed altitude.

Use the valkyrie pilot and you set GAA's on fire by strafing them.

I achieve the best winrate with it like this:
Escort your GA's, kill AA positions, kill off the points the GAA's missed, kill ennemy GAA's and MRF's that are going after your GAA's.
This way you will flip sectors in no time.
 

LBAEZ #5 Posted 13 December 2018 - 09:02 AM

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ok got it thanks

legoboy0401 #6 Posted 27 February 2019 - 10:06 PM

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View Postjack_wdw, on 12 December 2018 - 06:36 AM, said:

One of the planes i fly on a daily base.

It flies like a less maneuverable sabre with rockets and that stupid nerfed altitude.

Use the valkyrie pilot and you set GAA's on fire by strafing them.

I achieve the best winrate with it like this:
Escort your GA's, kill AA positions, kill off the points the GAA's missed, kill ennemy GAA's and MRF's that are going after your GAA's.
This way you will flip sectors in no time.
 

 

So you don't approve of the idiotically poor altitude perfomance of the Republic line in general, and the F-84F Thunderstreak in particular, either?

 

Interesting...


Edited by legoboy0401, 27 February 2019 - 10:08 PM.

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jack_wdw #7 Posted 27 February 2019 - 10:47 PM

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I don't approve of any nerfing or buffing in general.
I'd like to see planes perform and fulfill the roles which they were meant for irl.
F-84 is fun for now because of the low altitude battles in the higher tiers, but essentialy i don't see why it should have only half of the altitude performance of the sabre.

legoboy0401 #8 Posted 27 February 2019 - 10:52 PM

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View Postjack_wdw, on 27 February 2019 - 02:47 PM, said:

I don't approve of any nerfing or buffing in general.
I'd like to see planes perform and fulfill the roles which they were meant for irl.
F-84 is fun for now because of the low altitude battles in the higher tiers, but essentialy i don't see why it should have only half of the altitude performance of the sabre.

 

Gee, it'll certainly be fun once the high-tier German Bombers arrive... ...oh wait, that's right, that's NOT AT ALL what it will be.

Edited by legoboy0401, 27 February 2019 - 11:28 PM.

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WhiteKnight416 #9 Posted 28 February 2019 - 07:25 PM

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 27 February 2019 - 10:52 PM, said:

 

Gee, it'll certainly be fun once the high-tier German Bombers arrive... ...oh wait, that's right, that's NOT AT ALL what it will be.

 

It going to be just as much fun as current multiroles with High Alt bombers in the environment, which is to say LOTS of fun. 

 

But honest question, Why do you think Bombers are going to nullify Multiroles at 9-10? It doesn't happen at Tier 6-7


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legoboy0401 #10 Posted 28 February 2019 - 07:29 PM

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View PostWhiteKnight416, on 28 February 2019 - 11:25 AM, said:

 

It going to be just as much fun as current multiroles with High Alt bombers in the environment, which is to say LOTS of fun. 

 

Are you serious?

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WhiteKnight416 #11 Posted 28 February 2019 - 07:34 PM

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 28 February 2019 - 07:29 PM, said:

 

Are you serious?

 

Yes, I am, I play lots of Multiroles, in fact every Multirole line to at least Tier 8, and specialized a few. They have their role, which has nothing to do with fighting Player/Bot Bombers at any tier, which I explained in another thread. None of the fun of any of those lines has been affected by the introduction of US bombers, because fighting Bombers was never part of the job description unless the bomber pilot was particularly dumb. 

 

If late tier German bombers move the fight more in the vertical thats actually a good thing for a lot of Multiroles because it gives them more room to operate by stretching the fight vertically and removing some of the clutter from low altitude combat


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View PostWhiteKnight416, on 28 February 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

 

Yes, I am, I play lots of Multiroles, in fact every Multirole line to at least Tier 8, and specialized a few. They have their role, which has nothing to do with fighting Player/Bot Bombers at any tier, which I explained in another thread. None of the fun of any of those lines has been affected by the introduction of US bombers, because fighting Bombers was never part of the job description unless the bomber pilot was particularly dumb. 

 

If late tier German bombers move the fight more in the vertical thats actually a good thing for a lot of Multiroles because it gives them more room to operate by stretching the fight vertically and removing some of the clutter from low altitude combat

 

I never thought about it like that, but I guess you have a point. If I HAD ANY UPVOTES LEFT(DARN YOU, RESTRICTIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF UPVOTES IN A DAY!), I would give you one. For now, take this. +1

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WhiteKnight416 #13 Posted 28 February 2019 - 07:56 PM

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View Postlegoboy0401, on 28 February 2019 - 07:53 PM, said:

 

I never thought about it like that, but I guess you have a point. If I HAD ANY UPVOTES LEFT(DARN YOU, RESTRICTIVELY SMALL NUMBER OF UPVOTES IN A DAY!), I would give you one. For now, take this. +1

 

Thank you 

 

If anything having higher tier bombers will give MRs some additional support work, I often run with a flight mate who enjoys bombers, and my MRs do well in the SEAD/Wild Weasel role taking out AA batteries so he can rack up cap points in relative peace, this has been especially important since they took away the upgrades that made planes much more resistant to AA fire



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I suppose I should point out as a caveat to my previous post that since the current Russian bombers tend to be mid altitude birds its certainly within the possibility I would take one down with an MR if it presented itself as a target of opportunity, but in the context of the coming high tier German bombers thats a largely moot point

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well whiteknight I gave you 3  up points good points and well taken thankyou for your input sir

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by the way I was a beta player and actually have over 16000 flights you can look my record up and I left the game because the 2.0 update took away the flight characteristic of individual planes to make it more challenging in dogfights but I cameback after over 6 months to give it one more chance . its a much faster game and I still feel the same.  no longer play as much but don't want to give up on my clan and every now and then I recruit players to keep my depleted pilots active. thankyou all for your input   COMMANDER of Black flight squadron :LBAEZ

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View PostLBAEZ, on 01 March 2019 - 10:47 AM, said:

well whiteknight I gave you 3  up points good points and well taken thankyou for your input sir

 

You're welcome, I hope you enjoy the plane




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