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GonerNL #21 Posted 09 November 2018 - 01:18 PM

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View Postpoppavein, on 08 November 2018 - 06:46 PM, said:

Is there a way to see the mission requirements *before* spending 5 tokens for the Order?

 

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CorvusCorvax #22 Posted 09 November 2018 - 04:07 PM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 08 November 2018 - 03:22 PM, said:

 

I think people just don't play Doras enough. 

 

I didn't look at the Japanese Heavy Fighter missions but trikke got 5 missions done in just over one hour worth of flying so it can't be that hard.

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trikke #23 Posted 09 November 2018 - 05:38 PM

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and that was the 5 easiest missions, and admittedly they are pretty darn easy... but i'm me, so it was no surprise that it took at least an hour

 

i blew through the harder ones with tokens, and had fun with the Toryu this morning!


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StoptheViolins #24 Posted 10 November 2018 - 05:14 AM

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B-17D is kind of meh.  Unless the thing is going after a plant most targets are one string apart.  So 8 500lb bombs for one target.

The 50cals seem to just bother attackers and might as well not fire at all.

Very slow reload means most of the match is spent spectating.

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View PostStoptheViolins, on 10 November 2018 - 05:14 AM, said:

B-17D is kind of meh. Unless the thing is going after a plant most targets are one string apart. So 8 500lb bombs for one target.

The 50cals seem to just bother attackers and might as well not fire at all.

Very slow reload means most of the match is spent spectating.

 

Just to be sure, it's 60 seconds for 8x 500 lb and  80 for 16x 500lb?

And the B-17G is the same?

I find it hard to believe that 17G barely has any improvement from 17D...



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The G has a greatly improved turret.  As does the B-32.  No BIG blind spot behind.  Also they carry 40 500lb bombs.  Drop 20 in each of two strings.  No reload of any until all are gone.  But the Do-217M no longer has the slowest reload of the bombers.
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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 10 November 2018 - 08:02 AM, said:

The G has a greatly improved turret.  As does the B-32.  No BIG blind spot behind.  Also they carry 40 500lb bombs.  Drop 20 in each of two strings.  No reload of any until all are gone.  But the Do-217M no longer has the slowest reload of the bombers.

 

Given the fact that I can shoot down a B-32 before my Ki-93 overheats, I don't think turrets are really some worthy improvements.

The G has the same ceiling, same bomb load, same speed and same bomb reload time, it's just... it can't be good enough for a T6, unless the reload time for 16x bomb loadout is different.



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Great. I've had a look at the missions which need to be completed before they all run out in Dec. So 12 mission, each has 24hrs to complete,yes? So if I was to buy enough tokens to miss all these I'd in fact be buying the plane for the overall cost of the token?

Looking at all the current info, getting through all these missions [12] in 24hrs each very very difficult for a newer pilot/game player.

Have I got this right???

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View PostBlond_Knight_Ironcross, on 10 November 2018 - 09:44 AM, said:

Great. I've had a look at the missions which need to be completed before they all run out in Dec. So 12 mission, each has 24hrs to complete,yes? So if I was to buy enough tokens to miss all these I'd in fact be buying the plane for the overall cost of the token?

Looking at all the current info, getting through all these missions [12] in 24hrs each very very difficult for a newer pilot/game player.

Have I got this right???

Good hunting,

Just a reference: I passed the Japanese HF T7 mission series in 12 hours, skipping four of them.

And I passed the American bomber T5 mission in 6 hours, skipping one of them just because I'm too lazy to do it. (the "cap 20 sector") one.

 

I think at least the T5 ones are very workable.



trikke #30 Posted 10 November 2018 - 01:04 PM

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i'm afraid that b-17s are going to be bullet magnets for a while, until the shiny newness wears off

 

unless, of course...  folks realize that mile-long bomb strings aren't going to be much of a threat, and just don't bother 


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View Postvcharng, on 10 November 2018 - 03:11 AM, said:

 

Given the fact that I can shoot down a B-32 before my Ki-93 overheats, I don't think turrets are really some worthy improvements.

The G has the same ceiling, same bomb load, same speed and same bomb reload time, it's just... it can't be good enough for a T6, unless the reload time for 16x bomb loadout is different.

 

It has been my sad experience that ALL the bombers can be shot down, especially by a heavy.  It all depends on the skill of the attacking pilot and how much damage he is willing to take.
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Well the strings are good on some maps but any map with stretched out ground targets they might as well carry 4 bombs.  My only guess at a strategy is to start boosting just before you start dropping bombs to stretch that string out some but that might not clear all the targets.

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I sure ain't figured them out yet.  Especially the B-17D with the nerfed gunner.

 

If they just broke up the strings to three or four I think they would be killer.


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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 10 November 2018 - 01:55 PM, said:

 

It has been my sad experience that ALL the bombers can be shot down, especially by a heavy.  It all depends on the skill of the attacking pilot and how much damage he is willing to take.

 

The point in my previous post was "before overheat".

Yes all bombers can be shot down by HF, but if you are able to be shot down by a Japanese HF with poor firepower and an easily overheated 57mm gun, turrets won't help you.

And if turrets won't help you, B17G is not a good T6 as it lacks any other improvements whatsoever.



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View PostBlond_Knight_Ironcross, on 10 November 2018 - 04:44 AM, said:

Great. I've had a look at the missions which need to be completed before they all run out in Dec. So 12 mission, each has 24hrs to complete,yes? So if I was to buy enough tokens to miss all these I'd in fact be buying the plane for the overall cost of the token?

Looking at all the current info, getting through all these missions [12] in 24hrs each very very difficult for a newer pilot/game player.

Have I got this right???

Good hunting,

 

I was able to acquire the B-17D without bypassing any missions in 5 hours of play (and I took a break for lunch during that time.)  [I am a casual player.] I also received half of the original tokens back from buying the operation from earning Medals. So 2 tokens 4+ hours for a B-17D that is so so. Not an impressive plane to play at all but not bad for 2 tokens and playing a game you were going to play anyway.  Granted this is probably the easiest of all the operations. And why it may be the only one I complete or even try.

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View PostBlond_Knight_Ironcross, on 10 November 2018 - 10:44 AM, said:

Looking at all the current info, getting through all these missions [12] in 24hrs each very very difficult for a newer pilot/game player.

 

Even difficult for a not so new player ... depending on how much time of those 24hrs you actually are able/willing to play.

I got the Tier V Ki-45 by playing 7 missions and skipping 5 with tokens (got a nice supply built up) in about 5 hrs. For some missions you just need luck, they look easy but can be frustrating as hell ...


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View PostBlond_Knight_Ironcross, on 10 November 2018 - 12:44 PM, said:

Great. I've had a look at the missions which need to be completed before they all run out in Dec. So 12 mission, each has 24hrs to complete,yes? So if I was to buy enough tokens to miss all these I'd in fact be buying the plane for the overall cost of the token?

Looking at all the current info, getting through all these missions [12] in 24hrs each very very difficult for a newer pilot/game player.

Have I got this right???

Good hunting,

 

You have 24 hours for all 12 missions, not 24 hours for each. The rest is correct. You can skip all missions if you want to. 




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