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trikke #21 Posted 02 November 2018 - 04:25 PM

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that's so true

 

dogs that love to bark and growl see all other dogs as enemies

 

dogs that are just generally sweet-natured see all other dogs as possible new playmates

 

sadly, it's deep inside


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Prenzlau #22 Posted 02 November 2018 - 05:51 PM

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View Posttrikke, on 02 November 2018 - 10:25 AM, said:

that's so true

 

dogs that love to bark and growl see all other dogs as enemies

 

dogs that are just generally sweet-natured see all other dogs as possible new playmates

 

sadly, it's deep inside

 

    An interesting insight using dogs Trikke. The "deep inside" part, the origin of what we might term vice or virtue. Emotionally based irrationality that gets filtered and processed into behaviors that fit inside what could be described as a "normal range" or a "range of normality". Highly subjectable and infinitely objectionable. 

 

    There have been theories that all conscious life evolves or transcends from a lower state to a higher state. At each stage or level of awareness it takes longer to proceed to the next higher stage or level, so the energetic spirit repeats and learns until it is ready to evolve of transcend to a higher state. This theory might explain certain generalities of human behavior, and also some specificalities as well. The idea that newly transcended souls or spirits not being learned as humans, still have influence of their previous incarnation, in this case the level below humanity, the animals. So highly instinctive humans tend to be aggressive, brutish, fearful, greedy, apathetic, etc. Generally behaviors viewed as anti-social and negative. Whereas souls or spirits who have lived and repeated their existence as humans many times, tend to be compassionate, peaceful, empathetic, wise, generous, etc. If you have ever met someone who is so kind and giving, emotionally stable and strong, then they are most likely in their last go around as a human and is ready to move on to a higher state of existence, having learned all the lessons they needed and gained all the virtuous attributes. These higher souls tend to be people of immense character and charisma, who behave with great principles and wisdom. 

 

    Just a theory and belief that I came across in my reading, and sometimes it makes me wonder when I meet certain people if there is any truth to this theory. How some people can be murderous, callous, brutes (filled with animal instincts) and others so very enlightened and full of knowledge and wisdom. Before anyone points out that many animals are peaceful and nice, empathetic and friendly, under the theory these would be spirits or souls that are ready to move up as well. People often want to reduce and simplify for their own understanding, and I am not pretending to understand this theory or even agree with it. I do personally believe that the origins or what we would describe as personality, identity, and memory are stored outside the physical brain/body. Many contemporary theories and experiments add weight to this. Whenever a process is outside the "cause versus effect" physciality that we commonly use to explain the rational workings of our physical environment, we often resort to theories and believes to explain what is difficult to explain and understand. 

 

    So sorry, it is the caffeine kicking in again and sometimes I just keep writing. How and why we either like each other or oppose each other is always difficult to understand. Humanity would have destroyed itself a long time ago if there was not more "good and positive" factors versus "negative" ones. That said, as we have witnessed in our own bodies, it only takes a minority of an infection or cancer to eventually destroy the body as a whole. So the destiny or fate of humanity as a species, and organism is still in the balance. Personally I think humanity is more likely to mutate (willingly) or change into something less human and more something else over time than completely end through self destruction. 

 

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trikke #23 Posted 02 November 2018 - 07:17 PM

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that makes sense, P!    great post, brother


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J_57 #24 Posted 03 November 2018 - 04:18 AM

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Lents writes; "Animals fall in Loveestablish rules for fair play, exchange valued goods and services, hold "funerals" for fallen comrades, deploy Sex as a weapon, and communicate with one another using rich vocabularies. Animals also get Jealous and violent or greedy and callous and develop irrational phobias and prejudices, just like us. Monkeys address inequality, wolves miss each other, elephants grieve for their dead, and prairie dogs name the humans they encounter. Human and Animal behavior is not as different as once believed."  The big take-home message is that the emotional drives and instincts of humans and other animals are remarkably similar. Where things become very different -- and we have to admit that modern humans live very differently than other animals -- is when those drives and instincts interact with the social environment to create behavior. Since humans have an exceedingly complex cultural history that is additive over the generations, that is a very different social milieu in which our drives give rise to behaviors. But the drives themselves are not so different. The basic instincts must be overcome in order for us to evolve into a higher consciousness. Mental awareness of ourselves and our surroundings, outside of what is considered "norm" or  "normal range" or a "range of normality", as Prenzlau puts it, is the challenge for humans. Our cultural upbringing, instilled biases, racial and economical boundaries are the stumbling blocks which hinder mankind from evolving into a higher being. Evolution is individualistic.   






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