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Soylent_Red_Isnt_People #1 Posted 28 October 2018 - 07:31 PM

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Took a break after Westwall, then was without steady internet through the Summer & early Fall thanks to local/state construction and provider end port issues.

 

 

Patched, sat out the Bomber Escort event (no interest whatsoever), and the other night logged in to review the changes while refreshing how to fly, set controls, and whatnot.

 

All of the tier II matches seemed like absolute chance as to who won, to the point where the only win was because for some reason both of the other humans (~30% folks) and I were on the same team.

Every other match was versus a higher WR pilot or two, without them even being in a flight; yet it didn't feel as if they had any better control or luck with their bots than did my own team.

 

Swapped plane, same pilot - captured more, inflicted more damage, & shot more aircraft down compared to every other plane in match without a respawn yet my team still lost.

Now instead of a bot swarm to one or two caps which they might roll over they go to more caps in smaller groups yet still pretty much can't/won't capture nor defend; an awful lot of milling about in neutral airspace too.....

 

Took out the Mustang-K, ended up opposite a team where one player crashed out and the other cleaned up flying a Pancake, but it was obvious right at bot break that blue was going to lose.

 

 

 

However, only for a ''win'' do players get any salvage parts under the new equipment changes, let alone possible progression on missions or daily tasks; and now I have to fly how many lost matches to "specialize"?

So the net sum for actual playtime of the session (only 5x non-training room matches) was a few credits and maybe half a dozen of the most common parts that wasn't enough to bother with trying to calibrate anything.

 

Color me annoyed, disinterested, and just a little bored; I already got fed up with Warships and uninstalled after playing it again for a month - frustration & futility isn't fun WG, never has been never will be.


Edited by Soylent_Red_Isnt_People, 28 October 2018 - 07:42 PM.

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mnbv_fockewulfe #2 Posted 28 October 2018 - 07:45 PM

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Parts on loses is being looked at. 

Pensively. 


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GonerNL #3 Posted 28 October 2018 - 09:25 PM

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View PostSoylent_Red_Isnt_People, on 28 October 2018 - 08:31 PM, said:

All of the tier II matches seemed like absolute chance as to who won,

 

Welcome to the WG casino ... where RNG rules and matchmaking sux.
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StoptheViolins #4 Posted 28 October 2018 - 09:39 PM

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Yeah... they went a little too far on adjusting towards defenders this go around.

 

Bomber flights are way too low - keep seeing GA trying to defend them.

 

 


Edited by StoptheViolins, 28 October 2018 - 10:57 PM.


Captain_Underpants53 #5 Posted 29 October 2018 - 12:43 AM

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The usual.  From one extreme to the other.
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GonerNL #6 Posted 29 October 2018 - 09:57 AM

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Eh, what was adjusted ??

I remember losing almost every battle on defense in the first weekend, so I switched to GA (and promptly won almost every battle).

So this weekend I decided to play fighters and multiroles for a change, ended up in defense about 99% of the time and of course lost 9 out of every 10 battles. Kept playing for the grind (lots of creds and exp despite defeats) and gave upon the crates ... barely managed to get 5 wins for 100 gold.


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SpiritFoxMY #7 Posted 29 October 2018 - 10:19 AM

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View PostGonerNL, on 29 October 2018 - 05:57 PM, said:

Eh, what was adjusted ??

I remember losing almost every battle on defense in the first weekend, so I switched to GA (and promptly won almost every battle).

So this weekend I decided to play fighters and multiroles for a change, ended up in defense about 99% of the time and of course lost 9 out of every 10 battles. Kept playing for the grind (lots of creds and exp despite defeats) and gave upon the crates ... barely managed to get 5 wins for 100 gold.

 

Defense got more respawns: used to be 55:45 in favour of Attackers iirc. Now its 55:65 in favour of Defenders

 

Defense Strongholds are now harder to cap, requiring something like 10 - 30 more capture points or something so its harder for the mass swarms of bombers and attackers to simply overwhelm the Strongholds in a single push.

 

It's still ruthlessly unforgiving for the defender but its now possible for a well coordinated flight to devastate the Attacking team if the Ground Pounders don't do a good job in silencing the guns or the escorting fighters let themselves get picked off by the defenders piecemeal. 

 

You can watch my videos in another thread (Defense of the Reich) :p Rei and I lost only one out of ten defending games.


Edited by SpiritFoxMY, 29 October 2018 - 10:21 AM.

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StoptheViolins #8 Posted 29 October 2018 - 02:09 PM

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I found I lost when most of the folks attacked sectors vs defended bombers.  That's right, I saw heavies strafing ground targets all game, MR's strafing ground targets all game, and on a rare occasion LF strafing ground targets.

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View PostStoptheViolins, on 29 October 2018 - 02:09 PM, said:

I found I lost when most of the folks attacked sectors vs defended bombers.  That's right, I saw heavies strafing ground targets all game, MR's strafing ground targets all game, and on a rare occasion LF strafing ground targets.

 

I had to remind folks on offense to defend the bombers.  I had to remind folks on defense to kill the bombers.  It was hard being a defender and having literally zero blue help in shooting down bomber flights.  Luckily, my German HFs all seem to be equipped to blow up bombers from a distance.  I like this mode a lot, but it does require some thinking.  Oh, and flying the A-26 like a very heavy fighter really ticks some folks off.  Win/win?

Captain_Underpants53 #10 Posted 29 October 2018 - 06:07 PM

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 29 October 2018 - 11:20 AM, said:

 

I had to remind folks on offense to defend the bombers.  I had to remind folks on defense to kill the bombers.  It was hard being a defender and having literally zero blue help in shooting down bomber flights.  Luckily, my German HFs all seem to be equipped to blow up bombers from a distance.  I like this mode a lot, but it does require some thinking.  Oh, and flying the A-26 like a very heavy fighter really ticks some folks off.  Win/win?

 

LOL.  I put that in the same category as the virulent anti-ramming crowd.  'You shouldn't do that!  It's not fair!'

 

If it is legal in the game, it IS fair.

 

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Wombatmetal #11 Posted 30 October 2018 - 12:53 AM

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View PostStoptheViolins, on 29 October 2018 - 06:09 AM, said:

I found I lost when most of the folks attacked sectors vs defended bombers.  That's right, I saw heavies strafing ground targets all game, MR's strafing ground targets all game, and on a rare occasion LF strafing ground targets.

 

I had one game where an Me 209 V4 was strafing ground targets. This is a real problem that starts at low levels I believe because the tips you get on screens give bad advice to players, and they develop bad habits.

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View PostWombatmetal, on 29 October 2018 - 08:53 PM, said:

I had one game where an Me 209 V4 was strafing ground targets. This is a real problem that starts at low levels I believe because the tips you get on screens give bad advice to players, and they develop bad habits.

 

you're right... i've seen questionable advice on the battle splash screen from the devs

 

but really, it's not much more questionable than my advice 


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