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trikke #1 Posted 21 September 2018 - 08:11 PM

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wouldn't you think that we would be seeing more questions in the New Folks forum?

 

i make a habit of checking in here, just to see if there's a question that i might know the answer to

 

and to make them give me their lunch money

 

i've seen a few, and that's been interesting and rewarding, but shouldn't we be seeing more?

 

maybe there should be more language-specific or timezone region-specific forums?

 

i would volunteer to learn another language, if it would increase player numbers!

 

i suppose i could use Google Translate...


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Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #2 Posted 21 September 2018 - 08:22 PM

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if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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Or they may be using Steam forums.

SlappedbyRommel #4 Posted 21 September 2018 - 08:26 PM

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Maybe WG can have Steam link the forum?

pyantoryng #5 Posted 21 September 2018 - 08:35 PM

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Can Steam account even log into this place?

 

Edit: Check this out https://steamcommuni...10/discussions/ Nothing much's happening though.


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WoWP makes a great jousting game...especially with the 262 and people busy in furballs...
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trikke #6 Posted 21 September 2018 - 08:58 PM

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hmm... i read xjag's post about beginner tips, he did a pretty good job of simply explaining complex issues

 

i, for one, welcome our new Steam overlords 


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Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #7 Posted 22 September 2018 - 01:38 AM

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View Posttrikke, on 21 September 2018 - 03:58 PM, said:

hmm... i read xjag's post about beginner tips, he did a pretty good job of simply explaining complex issues

 

i, for one, welcome our new Steam overlords 

xjag translated from klingon to english is still xjag


if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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It's already reached peak new users WORLDWIDE and is now in decline.

 


 

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Canoso77 #9 Posted 22 September 2018 - 03:35 AM

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Trikke, I'm not a Steam player but I have some questions you or the others might be able to answer.  They're quick questions so I don't think separate threads would be worthwhile.

 

I have a hard time seeing the planes in night battles unless they are against the snow or the aurora.  I see the aircraft icons just fine, but finding where to aim at the plane under the icon can be difficult.  Should I adjust my graphic settings?  Or does everyone have this same problem?

 

When you find yourself in a closing head on approach with an enemy who outguns you, is there a preferred method of evasion so you're not shot down?  I've tried quick climbs, dives, and turns, but I still take a lot of damage.  Maybe I'm not timing things right, I don't know.

 

I've flown several flight sims, and I miss having the joystick.  Videos on YouTube compare joystick and mouse for WoWP, and the mouse seems better for getting the gunsight where it needs to be.  What's your experience?   Any preference?  As a note, it took me some time to realize that with the mouse, you're not flying the plane as much as the plane is following the gunsight.

 

I know this is a game of percentages, just like World of Tanks and World of Warships.  I've played both of those for years and little percentage advantages can make a difference.  But the improved components for the planes really don't seem worthwhile since they're expensive, they depend partially on RNG, and you trade off decreases to other stats for the benefits.  Of course, I'm only beginning to fly at tier 4.   At what tier do you think the enhancements and calibrations really begin to pay off?  Or should you Specialize the plane before improving components so you'll have more components to work with and more value for your investment?

 

Thanks!

 

 


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I have seen the dangest things in the last few weeks.  I got used to, but not happy about, guys with bright shiny new fighters pinging away at ground targets all game.

 

But twice now I have seen guys in Goblins doing it.  I don't know if the Goblin is a good value for the money because I ain't got one but I do know that it is an absolute waste to do that.  Once lately I have seen a guy in a J8M doing it.  That's tech tree and takes awhile to get to, really?

 

Also lately I have seen a marked increase in flights with one guy, for example, in a Tier 4 and the other one in a Tier 3.  I guess the thinking is that maybe they can get in a Tier 3 battle and the higher tier guy can run amok.  It DON't work that way.  It's a real PITA if they are on your team.

 

So yes, I wish all the newcomers would check the forum and ask questions.  I have seen numerous subjects of interest and still learn from them.

 

 


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View PostCanoso77, on 21 September 2018 - 10:35 PM, said:

Trikke, I'm not a Steam player but I have some questions you or the others might be able to answer.  They're quick questions so I don't think separate threads would be worthwhile.

 

I have a hard time seeing the planes in night battles unless they are against the snow or the aurora.  I see the aircraft icons just fine, but finding where to aim at the plane under the icon can be difficult.  Should I adjust my graphic settings?  Or does everyone have this same problem?

 

When you find yourself in a closing head on approach with an enemy who outguns you, is there a preferred method of evasion so you're not shot down?  I've tried quick climbs, dives, and turns, but I still take a lot of damage.  Maybe I'm not timing things right, I don't know.

 

I've flown several flight sims, and I miss having the joystick.  Videos on YouTube compare joystick and mouse for WoWP, and the mouse seems better for getting the gunsight where it needs to be.  What's your experience?   Any preference?  As a note, it took me some time to realize that with the mouse, you're not flying the plane as much as the plane is following the gunsight.

 

I know this is a game of percentages, just like World of Tanks and World of Warships.  I've played both of those for years and little percentage advantages can make a difference.  But the improved components for the planes really don't seem worthwhile since they're expensive, they depend partially on RNG, and you trade off decreases to other stats for the benefits.  Of course, I'm only beginning to fly at tier 4.   At what tier do you think the enhancements and calibrations really begin to pay off?  Or should you Specialize the plane before improving components so you'll have more components to work with and more value for your investment?

 

Thanks!

 

 

 

Everybody seems to have that night vision problem (except for the bombers)  ;)  I'll let more experienced fighter pilots tackle the other questions.  I ain't qualified.
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Chunky_Cleb #12 Posted 22 September 2018 - 09:23 AM

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Hey...Cappy...could you elaborate a little more on this...I wasn't quite sure what you meant there....but then again...it's late and i'm tired...so maybe I'm just not getting it.                                                                        

View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 22 September 2018 - 03:45 AM, said:

 

 

Also lately I have seen a marked increase in flights with one guy, for example, in a Tier 4 and the other one in a Tier 3.  I guess the thinking is that maybe they can get in a Tier 3 battle and the higher tier guy can run amok.  It DON't work that way.  

 

 

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                             

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View PostChunky_Cleb, on 22 September 2018 - 04:23 AM, said:

Hey...Cappy...could you elaborate a little more on this...I wasn't quite sure what you meant there....but then again...it's late and i'm tired...so maybe I'm just not getting it.                                                                        

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                             

 

Well, we are all familiar with flights of two individuals working together.  I am saying it is NOT advisable to mix tiers in these flights.  Both planes should be in the same tier.  I have even (lately) seen a tier 3 flighted with a tier 1!  Yes, this kind of thing can happen accidently (don't ask) but lately it seems intentional on the part of the newcomers.  Never a good idea.
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SpiritFoxMY #14 Posted 22 September 2018 - 11:30 AM

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Well, when I first introduced my cousin to Warplanes, I flighted up with his tier I in a tier II... and ended up in a tier III match :p

 

At least he was game about the whole mess.


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View PostCanoso77, on 22 September 2018 - 11:35 AM, said:

When you find yourself in a closing head on approach with an enemy who outguns you, is there a preferred method of evasion so you're not shot down?  I've tried quick climbs, dives, and turns, but I still take a lot of damage.  Maybe I'm not timing things right, I don't know.

 

I've flown several flight sims, and I miss having the joystick.  Videos on YouTube compare joystick and mouse for WoWP, and the mouse seems better for getting the gunsight where it needs to be.  What's your experience?   Any preference?  As a note, it took me some time to realize that with the mouse, you're not flying the plane as much as the plane is following the gunsight.

 

I know this is a game of percentages, just like World of Tanks and World of Warships.  I've played both of those for years and little percentage advantages can make a difference.  But the improved components for the planes really don't seem worthwhile since they're expensive, they depend partially on RNG, and you trade off decreases to other stats for the benefits.  Of course, I'm only beginning to fly at tier 4.   At what tier do you think the enhancements and calibrations really begin to pay off?  Or should you Specialize the plane before improving components so you'll have more components to work with and more value for your investment?

 

Heya Canso!

 

Firstly, EVERYONE has trouble on the night maps so don't worry too much about it. (Its actually better than it was previously if you'd believe that)

 

Secondly, evasion of a head on attack depends on your plane and the opponent - my recommendation is to get under your opponents guns ASAP. Point your nose below your attacker's angle of attack so you can pass under him as he attacks. Hit boost and charge. Ideally he'll only get about a second of aimed fire before he's forced to contort himself into a pretzel to keep shooting at you

 

Mouse and Keyboard is my preferred setup. I tried Joystick right a beginning but it isn't as intuitive as MnK.

 

Lastly, I strongly recommend you enhance your equipment to Improved quality... but not bother with Calibration until you have a plane Specialized and your Equipment is upgraded to Ultimate. The thing is that despite the penalties, equipment bonuses can make quite a difference between pilots of equal skill and once you hit Specialist status with Ultimate equipment, the bonuses become very noticable. On top of that, you can enhance this further with the pilot skills Aerodynamic and Defensive Expert. Don't underestimate equipment is what I'm saying.


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we saw a flighted T5 and a T1 in a battle last week!     omg

 

View PostCanoso77, on 21 September 2018 - 11:35 PM, said:

Trikke, I'm not a Steam player but I have some questions you or the others might be able to answer.  They're quick questions so I don't think separate threads would be worthwhile.

 

I have a hard time seeing the planes in night battles unless they are against the snow or the aurora.  I see the aircraft icons just fine, but finding where to aim at the plane under the icon can be difficult.  Should I adjust my graphic settings?  Or does everyone have this same problem?

 

When you find yourself in a closing head on approach with an enemy who outguns you, is there a preferred method of evasion so you're not shot down?  I've tried quick climbs, dives, and turns, but I still take a lot of damage.  Maybe I'm not timing things right, I don't know.

 

I've flown several flight sims, and I miss having the joystick.  Videos on YouTube compare joystick and mouse for WoWP, and the mouse seems better for getting the gunsight where it needs to be.  What's your experience?   Any preference?  As a note, it took me some time to realize that with the mouse, you're not flying the plane as much as the plane is following the gunsight.

 

I know this is a game of percentages, just like World of Tanks and World of Warships.  I've played both of those for years and little percentage advantages can make a difference.  But the improved components for the planes really don't seem worthwhile since they're expensive, they depend partially on RNG, and you trade off decreases to other stats for the benefits.  Of course, I'm only beginning to fly at tier 4.   At what tier do you think the enhancements and calibrations really begin to pay off?  Or should you Specialize the plane before improving components so you'll have more components to work with and more value for your investment?

 

1. yep, we all have issues seeing each other in the night battles      bots have no trouble seeing you, though      no more night battles after T3...  yeah!

 

2. a wingover dive is the best way to avoid a headon with a human... when he tries to nose down to follow you, he will begin to roll, so temporarily he'll lose his aim point

start the dive just in time to avoid the worst, but not too early to give him time to follow you down       joystick users excel at controlling unneeded rolling

knowing what he's packing and knowing what you're packing will help make the decision quicker...  to break, or to hold your aim

 

3.  i have 3 joysticks rusting away in the top of the closet since 2.x      i have better scores with a mouse because i can aim better with a mouse

some top pilots still use joysticks...   Toggle is one      but my hand to eye and brain-muscle coordination is inferior to his in so many ways

a stick in his hand just feels natural, he says      who am i to argue with that?

 

4. the jury's still out on the expense vs. benefits of specialization, i think, because of the RNG     but a specced plane gives me more confidence, that's worth something, right?

i love options and i love to think about the pluses and deltas, but 95% of my planes has the exact same build, sadly

and don't forget that WG is constantly tinkering with that, so what be slightly better today might be slightly less better tomorrow, for balance's sake

the human pilots' ability to make quick decisions is the most powerful upgrade in the game, and that only comes with in-game experience 


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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 22 September 2018 - 06:30 AM, said:

Well, when I first introduced my cousin to Warplanes, I flighted up with his tier I in a tier II... and ended up in a tier III match :p

 

At least he was game about the whole mess.

LOL.  It does happen.  I just wish the new people knew that the game will never put the mismatched tier flight in a battle lower than the higher tier player.


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View Posttrikke, on 22 September 2018 - 06:54 AM, said:

we saw a flighted T5 and a T1 in a battle last week!     omg

 

 

1. yep, we all have issues seeing each other in the night battles      bots have no trouble seeing you, though      no more night battles after T3...  yeah!

 

2. a wingover dive is the best way to avoid a headon with a human... when he tries to nose down to follow you, he will begin to roll, so temporarily he'll lose his aim point

start the dive just in time to avoid the worst, but not too early to give him time to follow you down       joystick users excel at controlling unneeded rolling

knowing what he's packing and knowing what you're packing will help make the decision quicker...  to break, or to hold your aim

 

3.  i have 3 joysticks rusting away in the top of the closet since 2.x      i have better scores with a mouse because i can aim better with a mouse

some top pilots still use joysticks...   Toggle is one      but my hand to eye and brain-muscle coordination is inferior to his in so many ways

a stick in his hand just feels natural, he says      who am i to argue with that?

 

4. the jury's still out on the expense vs. benefits of specialization, i think, because of the RNG     but a specced plane gives me more confidence, that's worth something, right?

i love options and i love to think about the pluses and deltas, but 95% of my planes has the exact same build, sadly

and don't forget that WG is constantly tinkering with that, so what be slightly better today might be slightly less better tomorrow, for balance's sake

the human pilots' ability to make quick decisions is the most powerful upgrade in the game, and that only comes with in-game experience 

 

There is also the good ol' ram if your health is high enough.  People frown on it but it is a legal part of the game, like it or not.
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I've found that some new players is multi-tier flights simply can't afford to run on the same tier. Sometimes their friend just unlocked their tier 5, while the other only has a tier 4 at best
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View PostLMG, on 22 September 2018 - 11:33 AM, said:

I've found that some new players is multi-tier flights simply can't afford to run on the same tier. Sometimes their friend just unlocked their tier 5, while the other only has a tier 4 at best

 

Well, they would be better off (and so would their team) if they just flew tier 4 as a flight.
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