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Zaikadi #1 Posted 09 September 2018 - 12:36 AM

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I have great T&B aircraft, but some of my advantage is lost because I keep moving my mouse off the mousepad when I do long turns and spirals. How do you folks deal with this? In case it matters, I have the sensitivity set to 100%.

 

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SpiritFoxMY #2 Posted 09 September 2018 - 01:25 AM

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I use manual controls. Also I don't use a pad :p

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Dru83 #3 Posted 09 September 2018 - 01:36 AM

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Zaikadi, you can bind a keyboard key to pitch up. You start the turn with the mouse and then add your pitch up key to ensure that you are getting as much out of the turn as possible. So, when I'm really trying to turn tightly, in addition to turning with the mouse, I often have four keys pressed down. Pitch up, Flaps, the 0% throttle/air brake key, and either left or right rudder. I don't know that I'd recommend my key setup over anyone else's because sometimes I really have my fingers twisted, but I'm using the standard A/D to roll and W/S for boost/brake setup plus E for flaps, X for pitch up, and C and V for the rudder.

Captain_Underpants53 #4 Posted 09 September 2018 - 02:36 AM

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View PostDru83, on 08 September 2018 - 08:36 PM, said:

Zaikadi, you can bind a keyboard key to pitch up. You start the turn with the mouse and then add your pitch up key to ensure that you are getting as much out of the turn as possible. So, when I'm really trying to turn tightly, in addition to turning with the mouse, I often have four keys pressed down. Pitch up, Flaps, the 0% throttle/air brake key, and either left or right rudder. I don't know that I'd recommend my key setup over anyone else's because sometimes I really have my fingers twisted, but I'm using the standard A/D to roll and W/S for boost/brake setup plus E for flaps, X for pitch up, and C and V for the rudder.

LOL.  You must have four hands!  It reminds me why I use a joystick.


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SpiritFoxMY #5 Posted 09 September 2018 - 03:26 AM

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My config is:

 

A = Yaw Left

D = Yaw Right

Q = Roll Left

E = Roll Right

W = Boost

S = Pitch Up

X = Flaps

C = Airbrakes/0% Throttle

Z = Target under Reticule (quite specifically for Charlotte)

R = Rockets

Space = Bombs/Heavy Rockets


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Zaikadi #6 Posted 09 September 2018 - 07:23 AM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 09 September 2018 - 03:26 AM, said:

My config is:

 

A = Yaw Left

D = Yaw Right

Q = Roll Left

E = Roll Right

W = Boost

S = Pitch Up

X = Flaps

C = Airbrakes/0% Throttle

Z = Target under Reticule (quite specifically for Charlotte)

R = Rockets

Space = Bombs/Heavy Rockets

 

This setup makes a lot of sense, and I'll try it. Thanks.

 

I'm curious about one thing, though: why not reverse the boost and pitch-up keys? It seems more intuitive.



Zaikadi #7 Posted 09 September 2018 - 07:24 AM

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View PostDru83, on 09 September 2018 - 01:36 AM, said:

Zaikadi, you can bind a keyboard key to pitch up. You start the turn with the mouse and then add your pitch up key to ensure that you are getting as much out of the turn as possible. So, when I'm really trying to turn tightly, in addition to turning with the mouse, I often have four keys pressed down. Pitch up, Flaps, the 0% throttle/air brake key, and either left or right rudder. I don't know that I'd recommend my key setup over anyone else's because sometimes I really have my fingers twisted, but I'm using the standard A/D to roll and W/S for boost/brake setup plus E for flaps, X for pitch up, and C and V for the rudder.

 

Thanks, this is very helpful. I always seem to need that extra pitch in a turn.

SpiritFoxMY #8 Posted 09 September 2018 - 08:00 AM

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View PostZaikadi, on 09 September 2018 - 03:23 PM, said:

I'm curious about one thing, though: why not reverse the boost and pitch-up keys? It seems more intuitive.

 

Only if you haven't been playing things like Wing Commander and the like as a kid. :p

 

The old games used to mirror joystick controls so "pulling back" on the stick (to go up) was mirrored in the Down arrow key. And when games swapped over to WASD, the habit stuck


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trikke #9 Posted 09 September 2018 - 02:39 PM

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i have a large roll-up pad    12"x 24" from amazon 

 

i can then set the dpi low for aiming, but i still have the pad square footage for maneuverability 

 

but don't tell anyone else...


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ArrowZ_ #10 Posted 10 September 2018 - 06:19 AM

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If you're finding yourself fighting the controls then it's either time to re-tweak the current control setup or try a different control scheme. Seems like you could benefit from learning the Joystick since everything you've described is easily solved by playing with a stick due to the nature of minor inputs of pitch, roll, yaw with little effort. Ofcourse it requires more practice and time and isn't as easy to pick up as mouse and keyboard. But imo it's more rewarding once you get the hang of a JS. Plus you can still use the mouse view controls while playing the JS. Just need a little desk space and co-ordination.

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