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[Cenotaph]

And what happened to the changes that arrived with 2.0.6.?

 

Specifically the ones that made ADA bots, and especially the heavies, veer off as soon as they hit their sectors border?

 

Those changes that seemed to vanish, as soon as Summer Storm started...  

Edited by Cenotaph, 11 September 2018 - 09:18 PM.

[LMG]

Cenotaph, on 11 September 2018 - 03:19 PM, said:

And what happened to the changes that arrived with 2.0.6.?

 

Specifically the ones that made ADA bots, and especially the heavies, veer off as soon as they hit their sectors boarder?

 

Those changes that seemed to vanish, as soon as Summer Storm started...  

 

In my case I've seen them both strictly remain in their respective sector and fly off into the sunset. I'm not quite sure what causes what either 

[blindfoId]

Cenotaph, on 11 September 2018 - 11:19 PM, said:

And what happened to the changes that arrived with 2.0.6.?

 

Specifically the ones that made ADA bots, and especially the heavies, veer off as soon as they hit their sectors border?

 

Those changes that seemed to vanish, as soon as Summer Storm started...  

 

No changes to the ADAs were introduced in the update 2.0.6.

[Cenotaph]

blindfoId, on 12 September 2018 - 12:51 AM, said:

 

No changes to the ADAs were introduced in the update 2.0.6.

 

From the damned 2.0.6. patchnotes...

 

 

Bots

The behavior settings for bots have been changed:

[mnbv_fockewulfe]

Cenotaph, on 12 September 2018 - 03:15 PM, said:

 

From the damned 2.0.6. patchnotes...

 

 

Bots

The behavior settings for bots have been changed:

 

Aside from that, there have been a few server side updates of late.

Considering bots behavior is controlled server side.

[LMG]

mnbv_fockewulfe, on 12 September 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

 

Aside from that, there have been a few server side updates of late.

Considering bots behavior is controlled server side.

 

There have been indeed bot changes that were not announced in the past. Remember when bot GAAs and bombers would never try to attack Airfields back when 2.0 released? Even if they were the only hostile sector left?

That said, bot behavior is so random nowadays it's hard to tell if anything has actually changed unless it's as dramatic as bot GAAs shooting back at you 

[Cenotaph]

LMG, on 12 September 2018 - 08:28 AM, said:

 

That said, bot behavior is so random nowadays it's hard to tell if anything has actually changed unless it's as dramatic as bot GAAs shooting back at you 

 

Exactly this... regardless of if it was intended or not, the bots currently are not behaving like they did a few weeks ago.

[SonicPariah]

Cenotaph, on 12 September 2018 - 03:15 PM, said:

 

From the damned 2.0.6. patchnotes...

 

 

Bots

The behavior settings for bots have been changed:

 

This might be a difference between Bots (enemy team planes) and ADAs (which are not technically Bots in the same sense) but I might be wrong on that.

[Cenotaph]

SonicPariah, on 12 September 2018 - 10:00 AM, said:

 

This might be a difference between Bots (enemy team planes) and ADAs (which are not technically Bots in the same sense) but I might be wrong on that.

 

I think the point is that everything is getting constant tweaks with little documentation provided, players are no longer sure what is and isn't intended behaviour. Same for most WG staff, I bet.

 

It certainly doesn't help when we all know, for a fact, that the devs often misinterpret our comments, and will fight tooth and nail against the perception that they have made a mistake, even when it is obvious to everyone involved...

 

For an example, I refer you to the time when "Weekend" events were not ending on the server reset, Monday morning... and instead persisted till exactly 12 hours after reset.

 

And anyone with some objective reasoning could deduce that someone at WG got AM and PM mixed up... but would WG admit to a simple mistake?

 

Ofcourse not... blindfoid would rather spin some lies about it being because "Time zones are a thing, and players are just too dumb to understand our methods"

 

Reactions like this destroy our trust in anything claimed after that point, since it is crystal clear that ontop of not knowing how things work in their own game, WG thinks we are stupid...

Edited by Cenotaph, 12 September 2018 - 07:33 PM.

[blindfoId]

Cenotaph, on 12 September 2018 - 06:15 PM, said:

 

From the damned 2.0.6. patchnotes...

 

 

Bots

The behavior settings for bots have been changed:

 

ADAs and bots (ally or enemy members of teams) are 2 different essences. ADA are more like creeps (mobs - whatever you will call it), a part of the environment. Thus, no changes for ADAs, only for bots.

[StoptheViolins]

ADAs seem to be able to shoot stuff down - especially bots.  Also their ramming has been tuned up some - they now ram planes they know they can't win against.

[Bluegoose02]

If my bots on my team flew half as good as the ADA planes ,I would be happy as crap since the ADA seem to come after me with vengeance if I take one shot at them . My own bots don't do anything yet the ADA will go out of their way to get me any way they can , either ramming or shooting.

[trikke]

the ADA are the most predictable bots in the game...   even i can easily see the choreography coded into them

 

i usually don't notice much, but that i noticed 

[StoptheViolins]

GA bots got some changes - they will now take you head on, shoot at other planes, and are generally more aggressive.  Love it.

[LMG]

StoptheViolins, on 17 September 2018 - 09:22 AM, said:

GA bots got some changes - they will now take you head on, shoot at other planes, and are generally more aggressive.  Love it.

 

Except now they really suck at actual ground pounding. As in one third of the time they don't even go into a sector, one third they can't cap it and one third they leave without capping. All they seem to do semi-consistently is shoot at other planes, and even that feels wonky as I can't really tell when I'll get shot or not 

[SonicPariah]

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