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Bobby_Tables #41 Posted 01 August 2018 - 05:02 AM

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Perco_lator #42 Posted 01 August 2018 - 05:02 AM

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View PostPrenzlau, on 01 August 2018 - 12:11 AM, said:

 

 When I was your age sonny, I was out chasing tail (and catching it) and having fun with my friends

 

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No doubt you were.

 


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Perco_lator #43 Posted 01 August 2018 - 05:11 AM

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View PostPrenzlau, on 01 August 2018 - 12:48 AM, said:

 

Don't forget this is all off of my original post, which not one person has either the mind power or courage to actually address or debate. So keep on talking about nonsense, I'm not really arrogant, it is just how I look next to others.

 

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MelBrooks #44 Posted 01 August 2018 - 05:30 AM

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Well, I take a trip and miss this. I fully understand what Prenzlau is saying and I think he is correct if you apply his arguments and conclusions to truly meaningful situations and relationships: your family, your career, your best friend, your wife, and children to say a few. But, drawing this to a mismanaged game title is a long stretch. In fact, the rubber band broke. It’s a game that is played in our leisure time, evaluate it as it should be. I used to play this game a great deal and met many a good person here. That’s why I still come by, the game stinks, the people over years have been amusing, helpful, and just fun to converse with. Games come and go like a pair of work boots. You just go buy a new pair and move on. 

Prenzlau #45 Posted 01 August 2018 - 05:56 AM

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View PostMelBrooks, on 31 July 2018 - 11:30 PM, said:

Well, I take a trip and miss this. I fully understand what Prenzlau is saying and I think he is correct if you apply his arguments and conclusions to truly meaningful situations and relationships: your family, your career, your best friend, your wife, and children to say a few. But, drawing this to a mismanaged game title is a long stretch. In fact, the rubber band broke. It’s a game that is played in our leisure time, evaluate it as it should be. I used to play this game a great deal and met many a good person here. That’s why I still come by, the game stinks, the people over years have been amusing, helpful, and just fun to converse with. Games come and go like a pair of work boots. You just go buy a new pair and move on. 

 

Thanks... much appreciated.

 

It's like flipping through the cable or satellite stations, you can read my rhetoric or.... pick your complaint channel. 

 

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The_Wild_Weasel #46 Posted 01 August 2018 - 10:38 AM

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View PostPerco_lator, on 31 July 2018 - 07:29 PM, said:

"Moving forward and embracing the changes" & in this case also known as bending over & taking it. No thanks.

 

^ Read this WG! ... exactly ..NO THANK YO !

 

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The_Wild_Weasel #47 Posted 01 August 2018 - 10:41 AM

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View PostAce_BOTlistic_Cosmo, on 31 July 2018 - 10:37 PM, said:

I feel you are misguided zig...

in my opinion Prenz seems to start on nice even keels with hidden insults...

then goes into full rudeness when someone points out his mean spirited innuendo

he is rarely genuine with his opinion and always has rudeness embedded in his comments

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just my observation

 

 

^Darn , Im out of "Up votes" 

 

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Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #48 Posted 01 August 2018 - 12:26 PM

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View PostMelBrooks, on 01 August 2018 - 12:30 AM, said:

Well, I take a trip and miss this. I fully understand what Prenzlau is saying and I think he is correct if you apply his arguments and conclusions to truly meaningful situations and relationships: your family, your career, your best friend, your wife, and children to say a few. But, drawing this to a mismanaged game title is a long stretch. In fact, the rubber band broke. It’s a game that is played in our leisure time, evaluate it as it should be. I used to play this game a great deal and met many a good person here. That’s why I still come by, the game stinks, the people over years have been amusing, helpful, and just fun to converse with. Games come and go like a pair of work boots. You just go buy a new pair and move on. 

damn it Mel, why must you pick at old wounds...

god did I get pissed when my wife threw out my old work boots

I loved them more than her


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Noreaga #49 Posted 01 August 2018 - 03:02 PM

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oh man this is why i still come back and read.  Not quite as many of the intelligent idiots we used to have, but once in a bit you get some golden threads. 

 

Do they not require paragraphs in undergrad anymore?


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Lou #50 Posted 01 August 2018 - 04:07 PM

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View PostPrenzlau, on 31 July 2018 - 10:11 PM, said:

 

Then what do you do? What have you accomplished yourself? Other than quitting and then belittling and arguing with other people, what have you accomplished? I play the game, every night, I deserve to be here. I also indulge and give a lot of consideration to the chronic whiners and quitters in these forums. I'm actually fascinated from a psychological point of view of the psychosis of meaninglessness, when people no longer have a role or purpose, what do they become. I'm actually studying it. When I was your age sonny, I was out chasing tail (and catching it) and having fun with my friends, not wasting my time in the forums of a game that I am refusing to play. Somehow there is something wrong with me huh? I think it is the other way around. 

 

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When I have no further purpose or role, I move on. And have with from this game. The fun this game HAD, and the investment I have made, money, time, keeps bring me back to check in on the hope it all wasn't a waste.

And when you start the "Sonny" crap, people tend to skip whatever else you have to say. You have a way of talking down to people that comes across as passive/aggressive. Maybe you can study that.



Prenzlau #51 Posted 01 August 2018 - 05:27 PM

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View PostLou, on 01 August 2018 - 10:07 AM, said:

 

When I have no further purpose or role, I move on. And have with from this game. The fun this game HAD, and the investment I have made, money, time, keeps bring me back to check in on the hope it all wasn't a waste.

And when you start the "Sonny" crap, people tend to skip whatever else you have to say. You have a way of talking down to people that comes across as passive/aggressive. Maybe you can study that.

 

Thanks Lou for your reply. You know you may have a good point, obviously the way I am communicating others, they are either finding offensive or they are having trouble understanding. I think I have come up with a better technique to communicate with others.

 

I think if I'm patient and I keep things really simple, I will have better success and the people in the forums will be much happier. 

 

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Blucraft #52 Posted 01 August 2018 - 06:17 PM

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I'm "choosing" to sit this one out. I monitor the forum and may come back in a year or so (if the game is still alive).  I put a lot of time and $$ into this game, I thought it was in a good place and getting better.  But, this latest patch has really turned me off of WOWP.

 

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I personally decided the current state of the game is just not what I signed in for, so I'm currently on hiatus. I liked the slightly more carefree aspect 2.0 started up with, where I could still play the game even if I got shot down and the only real difference between a win and a loss was whether I got my x2 or not. Now it's pretty much punishes me everytime I lose, whether or not I could have done something about it. I make little to no progress towards getting the Specialist Configuration, which means I cannot use all the equipment I have available, or even upgrade it to its full potential. I have to run gimped versions of their pre-2.0.5 counterparts, and I don't even get any materials to save up for when I do get the Specialist Configuration unlocked. And that's if I even like what the Specialist Configuration makes me fly with, otherwise I'm better off not flying the plane since it'll be worse than anything that does run Specialist.

 

And all for what? Monetizing planes with Specialist unlocked and selling you the resources to upgrade the equipment, not actually giving you more customization since you can't even choose what part of your plane you want to upgrade. Want to increase the range of your machine guns? Tough luck, go upgrade your engine. More HP on your low-tier GAA to survive the AA fire? Yea, nope, you only get to improve your handling. Universal ammo on a GAA that only has machine guns to work with? Nah, we can't let it actually do its job properly :(


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Krautjaeger #54 Posted 01 August 2018 - 07:13 PM

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A lot of wise words said by many, of different views. One thing though Prenz, wall of text? Some paragraphs would be nice. :great:

 

And, throughout history and all ages...

 

 

...we're humans and we'll never change? :teethhappy:



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View PostThe_Wild_Weasel, on 31 July 2018 - 06:11 PM, said:

 

^  This gets my "up vote", especially for the WT account , same here, and DSC, I have played for the past 3 yrs is still my go to game, MIG-21/Mirage 2000 driver here ! , why I enjoyed 2.0 WOWP so much was the ease to get into a game

and not be a time sink., but 2.05 absolutely was a kick in "you know what" to every players intelligence. 

 

 this 2.05 patch is will bring WOWP to its knees , and that's about right now, I wouldn't dare bring a friend or new player to WOWP in it current state, even if you payed me.

 

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The_Wild_Weasel #56 Posted 02 August 2018 - 12:31 AM

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View PostBlucraft, on 01 August 2018 - 01:17 PM, said:

I'm "choosing" to sit this one out. I monitor the forum and may come back in a year or so (if the game is still alive).  I put a lot of time and $$ into this game, I thought it was in a good place and getting better.  But, this latest patch has really turned me off of WOWP.

 

-Blu

 

^ Well , Im about done airing out my grief with WG on this one, and really I hope the message gets across, no seasoned player should just be "alright" with this 2.05

Its an insult in every shape/form to the player base, and so many other ways they could have improved the game, but alas, they chose to "*$!@#" the last few hundred players.

 

But right now...other games are filling in the niche that WOWP once filled, so like Blu above...im in the same boat.... ill just monitor the forum every now and then.

 

W_W



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View PostLMG, on 01 August 2018 - 01:36 PM, said:

I personally decided the current state of the game is just not what I signed in for, so I'm currently on hiatus. I liked the slightly more carefree aspect 2.0 started up with, where I could still play the game even if I got shot down and the only real difference between a win and a loss was whether I got my x2 or not. Now it's pretty much punishes me everytime I lose, whether or not I could have done something about it. I make little to no progress towards getting the Specialist Configuration, which means I cannot use all the equipment I have available, or even upgrade it to its full potential. I have to run gimped versions of their pre-2.0.5 counterparts, and I don't even get any materials to save up for when I do get the Specialist Configuration unlocked. And that's if I even like what the Specialist Configuration makes me fly with, otherwise I'm better off not flying the plane since it'll be worse than anything that does run Specialist.

 

And all for what? Monetizing planes with Specialist unlocked and selling you the resources to upgrade the equipment, not actually giving you more customization since you can't even choose what part of your plane you want to upgrade. Want to increase the range of your machine guns? Tough luck, go upgrade your engine. More HP on your low-tier GAA to survive the AA fire? Yea, nope, you only get to improve your handling. Universal ammo on a GAA that only has machine guns to work with? Nah, we can't let it actually do its job properly :(

 

k , my last one   ^ LMG explains it perfectly.

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View PostThe_Wild_Weasel, on 02 August 2018 - 07:31 AM, said:

 

^ Well , Im about done airing out my grief with WG on this one, and really I hope the message gets across, no seasoned player should just be "alright" with this 2.05

Its an insult in every shape/form to the player base, and so many other ways they could have improved the game, but alas, they chose to "*$!@#" the last few hundred players.

 

But right now...other games are filling in the niche that WOWP once filled, so like Blu above...im in the same boat.... ill just monitor the forum every now and then.

 

W_W

 

I'd up vote you, but it seems I am limited to 3 a day. 

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Prenzlau thank you for this thread about growing and changing with this game.

This game will always test you in battle, thinking, forum, and may change you.

Prenzlau is a smart fighter in game and in the forum and does not whine or quit.

He will show you your weakness with humor, wit, reason, and intelligence.

I have grown and changed with this game since open beta, about four years.

I think Prenzlau is a great pilot and person, and proud to be his wingman anytime!

 



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View PostThe_Wild_Weasel, on 01 August 2018 - 07:31 PM, said:

 

^ Well , Im about done airing out my grief with WG on this one, and really I hope the message gets across, no seasoned player should just be "alright" with this 2.05

Its an insult in every shape/form to the player base, and so many other ways they could have improved the game, but alas, they chose to "*$!@#" the last few hundred players.

 

But right now...other games are filling in the niche that WOWP once filled, so like Blu above...im in the same boat.... ill just monitor the forum every now and then.

 

W_W

 

I get that a lot of people are unhappy with the game, but honestly after having taken a break, then coming back when I saw Magus' videos, I like the new system.

 

As far as people complaining because they lost the 'edge' they had with a specific equipment setup - the base equipment is still the same. You can upgrade it and personalize it from there and I don't see how that can be anything but good.

 

Is there potential for a Wargaming money-grab? Yeah, but they always make it possible (haha) to do things for free too...

 

 

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