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Fliyntiger #21 Posted 24 July 2018 - 05:31 AM

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View PostFIight, on 23 July 2018 - 06:54 PM, said:

 

​No kidding but bombers & GAAs should be killed more frequently and expect constant loss instead of winning everything without

any aerial combat skill.

 

I'm sorry flight, I'm going to disagree with you on that. I've spent 90% of my time doing GAA, and while I won't speak for other GA drivers, I think I've got a lot of aerial combat skill, it's not in being able to barrel or out turn or B & Z. It's in situational awareness & forcing you to chase me till I catch you. It's being able to jink & weave to allow my rear gunner to work a target over while hammering ground targets. It's in getting a pilot right on my tail, hitting the air brakes to force him to overshoot, right into my forward field of fire. It's taking advantage of the fighter pilot who ignores the GAA cause it's not a fighter, that fly across my nose to allow me to jam the rudder over hard & walk 8 7.62's down the length of his plane. My main ride is a TSH-2, and iv'e taken down everything from I-5's to Fw 57's with an occasional BF 110 ( ok it was VERY damaged ) Sure, I get splashed a lot, but between 1.9 & current, I can claim 6K aerial kills..


I can’t promise that if you choose to fight, that there will ever be a victory…or a day that we can step down and say our work is finished. Our lives are the sum total of thousand of choices. And the burden of that freedom is sometimes too much to bear. But you won’t have to do it alone anymore. We will find a better way..

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View PostFliyntiger, on 23 July 2018 - 09:31 PM, said:

 

I'm sorry flight, I'm going to disagree with you on that. I've spent 90% of my time doing GAA, and while I won't speak for other GA drivers, I think I've got a lot of aerial combat skill, it's not in being able to barrel or out turn or B & Z. It's in situational awareness & forcing you to chase me till I catch you. It's being able to jink & weave to allow my rear gunner to work a target over while hammering ground targets. It's in getting a pilot right on my tail, hitting the air brakes to force him to overshoot, right into my forward field of fire. It's taking advantage of the fighter pilot who ignores the GAA cause it's not a fighter, that fly across my nose to allow me to jam the rudder over hard & walk 8 7.62's down the length of his plane. My main ride is a TSH-2, and iv'e taken down everything from I-5's to Fw 57's with an occasional BF 110 ( ok it was VERY damaged ) Sure, I get splashed a lot, but between 1.9 & current, I can claim 6K aerial kills..

 

You can't compare low tier GAA to top end stuff... it becomes a very different game when they can single-handedly flip a hard cap in ~5 seconds, and have the guns to delete HF's in a blink.

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Prenzlau #23 Posted 24 July 2018 - 06:41 AM

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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 23 July 2018 - 08:14 PM, said:

 

Trust you to turn a serious question I had into a personal attack.  Will you EVER forgive me for breaking your record in the Hall of Fame?  NAH!  I didn't think so.

 

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And everyone thought I was the nasty one... I tried you give you a little love Captain, for what it is worth... maybe it is the guilt I felt for shooting you down and utterly crushing the teams you have been on.

 

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Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #24 Posted 24 July 2018 - 12:42 PM

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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 24 July 2018 - 05:48 AM, said:

Zigfreid and I NEVER exchanged a word until I broke his record but since then he has attacked me repeatedly in these forums and in battle chat.  Well, that is not my way.  My way if I was in second position, as he is, would be NOT to allow me to run my GT total up to almost twice his total.  I would work to earn that record back.

Your "Company" has a rotten odor about it.

sometimes too much of one friend is overwhelming to good mental health

the smell of strangeness can set in and can only be seen by others


if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


Bobby_Tables #25 Posted 24 July 2018 - 12:43 PM

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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 24 July 2018 - 04:48 AM, said:

Why?  I feel no guilt for the times I have beaten your teams.  For what it's worth, I freely admit that both you and Zigfreid are USUALLY better bombers than I am but NOT always.

 

But, unfortunately, being a good pilot does not equate to being a mature human being.  It puzzles me that anyone thinks they can dictate what someone else is flying.  I just don't think that way.  I will fly whatever I want when I want.  It is solely my decision, not Zigfreids'.  He can fly an old broom if he wants.  I don't give a flip.

 

Where I come from, when someone takes something away from you (ie, the GT record in the Hall of Fame) you man up and take it back.  You don't try to get them to quit so it will be easier for you.  You don't make a career out of knowing every detail in a player's history and using that knowledge to nitpick attack them.  LOL. I "only have 1 Ace and it's in a low tier fighter".  So what?

 

Zigfreid and I NEVER exchanged a word until I broke his record but since then he has attacked me repeatedly in these forums and in battle chat.  Well, that is not my way.  My way if I was in second position, as he is, would be NOT to allow me to run my GT total up to almost twice his total.  I would work to earn that record back.

 

Your "Company" has a rotten odor about it.

 

 

 

That is strange, never knew Zig to get personal.  Pretzal is pretty much Nancy Drew with a new handle.  Strange times indeed.    

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All they had to do was two simple things to avoid all the displeasure with 2.0.5.  First off don't take away what we alrdy had, restarter and control surface depending on plane but instead add a whole new ability to look fowrad to when we specialize. Secondly for the love of all give us something when we lose.  After working your butt off and scoring a 20k+ game only to lose by 10 points and get squat is enough to make even the most dedicated pilot want to walk away.  Yes I know before anyone says we still recieve credits and exp, I'm referring to no advancement towards specialist (you do get defense bot kills)  and no equipment parts. 

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View PostBobby_Tables, on 24 July 2018 - 06:43 AM, said:

 

That is strange, never knew Zig to get personal.  Pretzal is pretty much Nancy Drew with a new handle.  Strange times indeed.    

 

Never have and never will thanks Bobby and great flying in game!

Prenzlau #28 Posted 24 July 2018 - 02:54 PM

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View PostCaptain_Underpants53, on 24 July 2018 - 04:48 AM, said:

Why?  I feel no guilt for the times I have beaten your teams.  For what it's worth, I freely admit that both you and Zigfreid are USUALLY better bombers than I am but NOT always.

 

But, unfortunately, being a good pilot does not equate to being a mature human being.  It puzzles me that anyone thinks they can dictate what someone else is flying.  I just don't think that way.  I will fly whatever I want when I want.  It is solely my decision, not Zigfreids'.  He can fly an old broom if he wants.  I don't give a flip.

 

Where I come from, when someone takes something away from you (ie, the GT record in the Hall of Fame) you man up and take it back.  You don't try to get them to quit so it will be easier for you.  You don't make a career out of knowing every detail in a player's history and using that knowledge to nitpick attack them.  LOL. I "only have 1 Ace and it's in a low tier fighter".  So what?

 

Zigfreid and I NEVER exchanged a word until I broke his record but since then he has attacked me repeatedly in these forums and in battle chat.  Well, that is not my way.  My way if I was in second position, as he is, would be NOT to allow me to run my GT total up to almost twice his total.  I would work to earn that record back.

 

Your "Company" has a rotten odor about it.

 

 

 

So... it is all about measuring the lengths of our bombers? All this talk about bomber records in the long term is academic. Eventually I will hold all the bomber records, that is pretty much inevitable. As a matter of fact, as a true bomber "Sith", I'm not going to be satisfied until I am the greatest bomber player of all time. 

In all the time I have known Zigfreid he has never talked about records or holding a grudge because of certain records. What he does talk about is crushing the other teams without mercy, taking all the caps on a particular map with surgical precision, and how much fun it is watching enemy planes blow up in the rear view of his tail gun! 

I'm not quite the stone cold destroyer Zigfreid is, yet! But I'm getting there. What sucks is that there are so many "side liners" here in the forums that I wish were still playing so I can exact justice upon them in the game. 

I did say that I would stick up for bombers, any bombers and I will keep that pledge. Things will change for the better and they will correct a lot of the bomber issues, in time. 

 

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Fliyntiger #29 Posted 24 July 2018 - 03:11 PM

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View PostCenotaph, on 23 July 2018 - 10:36 PM, said:

 

You can't compare low tier GAA to top end stuff... it becomes a very different game when they can single-handedly flip a hard cap in ~5 seconds, and have the guns to delete HF's in a blink.

 

Haven't gotten up there yet, doesn't the heaver caliber in fighters compensate? or missiles?

I can’t promise that if you choose to fight, that there will ever be a victory…or a day that we can step down and say our work is finished. Our lives are the sum total of thousand of choices. And the burden of that freedom is sometimes too much to bear. But you won’t have to do it alone anymore. We will find a better way..

Together.


SlappedbyRommel #30 Posted 24 July 2018 - 05:00 PM

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Dang, where are the Latin quotes?

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View PostFIight, on 24 July 2018 - 02:54 AM, said:

 

​No kidding but bombers & GAAs should be killed more frequently and expect constant loss instead of winning everything without

any aerial combat skill. The game will only return to normal state if there is a balance between ground pounders and other planes.

 

When I fly and am not flighted, I often score the highest on my team, regardless of the aircraft type.  Often enough, I have the highest overall PP.  Bombers, GAA, HF - you name it.  HHJ seems to think that flying a bomber doesn't require skill, but Captain_Underpants has been on the other end of my guns often enough to know that just ain't so.  You have to be able to not only destroy targets, but also evade ADA and red players/bots.  It takes skill to bomb well, and isn't just stooging around at altitude dropping bombs.  If you do that, you'll get shot down and just play into the other team's hands.  The problem is that the skills required for air-to-ground are different than the skills required for air to air.  

 

Skill is still required.



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View PostFliyntiger, on 24 July 2018 - 03:11 PM, said:

 

Haven't gotten up there yet, doesn't the heaver caliber in fighters compensate? or missiles?

 

Well, sort of.  When I'm in my Gobling, and I am working on a IL-40, I have to work at it really dang hard.  Because if I let him get a bead on me with his tail gun, I'm a dead duck.  It takes several passes with the 6 x .50 cals the Gobling has to work over an IL-40.  The hit points are huge, and the defensive armament is powerful.  Even when I am flying my Me-262, the higher-tier GAA are a challenge.  Those 30s can knock down the HP quick, but the 262 is so fast I can't hold my guns on target very long.  So then I have to make multiple passes.  Or suicidally slow down to keep the guns on target longer.  Two bad choices, at a low altitude.  So, really, two bad choices in a place where the aircraft is not as good.  :)

Fliyntiger #33 Posted 24 July 2018 - 11:26 PM

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Bene pueri, is vultus amo is est. Nuclei ad pugnam pollicem pollicem cum Ruskies

I can’t promise that if you choose to fight, that there will ever be a victory…or a day that we can step down and say our work is finished. Our lives are the sum total of thousand of choices. And the burden of that freedom is sometimes too much to bear. But you won’t have to do it alone anymore. We will find a better way..

Together.


Fliyntiger #34 Posted 24 July 2018 - 11:34 PM

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View PostSlappedbyRommel, on 24 July 2018 - 09:00 AM, said:

Dang, where are the Latin quotes?

 

Ok, lets try this again :teethhappy:

 

"Eheu! videte rem istam!"  (Hey! Watch This!)(last words of almost any good ol boy)

 

Veni, vidi, et ballistae ( I came, I saw, I shot rockets at it )

 

io j talliam ( Tally Ho! )

 

Here's one for ACE_BOT..

 

Bene pueri, is vultus amo is est. Nuclei ad pugnam pollicem pollicem cum Ruskies (Well boys, it looks like this is it. Nuclear combat toe to toe with the Ruskies)

And one just for you Slapped..

 

Rommel, et Magnifico bastardis! Tibi librum legi! ( Rommel, you magnificent bastard! I read your book! )

 


I can’t promise that if you choose to fight, that there will ever be a victory…or a day that we can step down and say our work is finished. Our lives are the sum total of thousand of choices. And the burden of that freedom is sometimes too much to bear. But you won’t have to do it alone anymore. We will find a better way..

Together.


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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 24 July 2018 - 12:10 PM, said:

 

Well, sort of.  When I'm in my Gobling, and I am working on a IL-40, I have to work at it really dang hard.  Because if I let him get a bead on me with his tail gun, I'm a dead duck.  It takes several passes with the 6 x .50 cals the Gobling has to work over an IL-40.  The hit points are huge, and the defensive armament is powerful.  Even when I am flying my Me-262, the higher-tier GAA are a challenge.  Those 30s can knock down the HP quick, but the 262 is so fast I can't hold my guns on target very long.  So then I have to make multiple passes.  Or suicidally slow down to keep the guns on target longer.  Two bad choices, at a low altitude.  So, really, two bad choices in a place where the aircraft is not as good.  :)

 

I thought the Goblin only had four machine guns :sceptic:


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View PostLMG, on 25 July 2018 - 12:41 AM, said:

 

I thought the Goblin only had four machine guns :sceptic:

 

You might be right.  Even worser!

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What we need are fixes to high altitude bombing and at least the start of a new bomber line, either U.K., Japan ( which I mapped out very well in another post) or US.  See my thread on High Altitude AA for or info on that.  

 

They don't even have to complete a line, just a couple of planes to get us started, and maybe a new premium.  They already have the graphics for the B17 and FW 200 in game as bomber flights, half the work is done on them already.  

 

What Capt, me and the rest of the bombers need is something to challenge us, maybe a new map with content only a bomber can take advantage of, a new line to research and specialize.  The started bombers almost a year ago then nothing.  



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View PostZigfreid, on 23 July 2018 - 08:11 PM, said:

 

#1 Your NO to pilots who asked to fly with you.

#2 Your pick of clan not being so active.

#3 Your 0.7 something air kills per game.

#4 Your one and only ace in a low tier.

#5 Your whining about the game and low stats.

Sounds like you are are ready to quit WELL?

 

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when good folks start arguing over unimportant things, it makes the baby Jesus cry

 

please, if anyone sees me getting drawn into a tiff, just post something funny to snap me out of it


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View PostFIight, on 23 July 2018 - 09:54 PM, said:

 

​No kidding but bombers & GAAs should be killed more frequently and expect constant loss instead of winning everything without

any aerial combat skill. The game will only return to normal state if there is a balance between ground pounders and other planes.

 

No, they should not.
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