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Longsite #1 Posted 11 July 2018 - 01:54 AM

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Hey WG and all in the WG community, I just had an awful game, I'm not mad I lost, I sadden that it makes no sense that I lost.
Lets review why anyone plays, to have Fun, to Enjoy themself and to Connect with Friends.  Others play to let off steam, to wreck someone else day and to improve there ability.
 
WG you added bots to enrich the experenences and to give us more to work for and fight against.  So why the dumb bots, why do bots control the outcome of most battles, why don't bots have the ability to help and keep area's, some just fly around and don't engage in helping win the battle.   Here's a few ideals to help with that problem, give the gaa the ability to point out an area that they are going to and all other gaa's should follow them....  Same with the bombers....
 
I understand the ideal about the re-spawning but u put the humans at a disadvanage with that bullsh*t.  lets change that to when the squaw line is reached no other team can re-spawn, and that to include the defense aircraft, why do they have unlimited re-spawning, people hate it when they make it to the squaw line (or whatever the hell its called) and they have losted HP and just lost an area that they died in  to go retake it and suddely 6 defense aircraft appear out of nowhere and U still have to fight the enemy team.....  Heres a fix it ideal : Stop the unlimited re-spawn for defense aircraft, and the only way to retake an area is to destory the aaa and all the buildings....  Period.....
 
In higher tier lets fix the MM, its sad that from tier 7 to tier 10 U find yourself the only human against a flight of humans, sure U sometime upgrade the bots but it not fair play.  It make for an ulgy battle and pushes some from going into the higher tier.  A quick fix would be to wait until another flight of human can be put against them, one tier up or down, just give others a fair chance to win...  And no Bots are not the answer,  bots on each team should be the same in ability but they are not.....
Also who's ideal to program all the bots to go to difference area,  why don't u program the bots to follow the humans, u somehow have program enemy bots that no matter what they are doing to attack the humans as soon as they show up to an area?

U put the people that pay to keep your game alive to follow bots, WTH?  Please give us a little ability to win by giving us the tools to win, sure we will make mistakes and there will be argument among us but in the end we will work it out.

Now this grind to get to Specialist is bad enough but to make us do that [edited]of spinning to get calibration is the dumbest ideal I have every heard of.  U add something that U think is great to the game, and U make all our aircraft weaker and to get the best performance we must grind to Specialist to get back to some type of elite status, are U kidding me.....  and we must spin the bottle to get to the last 100 points.   Guys get real that is hella dumb......  Plus on top of that U make it harder to get Salvage Parts...

Easy fix, lets us buy the last 100 points and make it easier to get Salvage Parts, a lot easier, hell give some away with some type of mission......  Yes it may hurt your profits but it will keep people playing, your choice........
 
Also take a day and make it a mission day, like on friday, between 2pm to 2am it's give away friday to all that fly a certain tier (like tier 5 and 6) they get a free comsumable or salvage parts and 5x HP during that time period.  It would get a lot of people into the game and give them the ability to grind up easier......    Please help us deal with some of the stupid things that U have done with that last patch.  (plus it looks good for all the problems we live with that U still haven't fixed yet....)
I have a bunch of ideal if U wish it hear them, Hell a lot of people have ideals, make a call out on the forms if we have ideals and lets up post them to U.....  I can't Hurt and U might profit from it,  think about it...…
 
Well that's it for me, but believe me, a lot of people, like myself are not satisfied with the game in its current state, we know U can be and get better if U just applied yourself, good luck.......
 
Longsite
ps: sorry for the mistakes in this posting, I'm just done with the [edited]that happens in the game, glhf.....

Edited by Longsite, 11 July 2018 - 03:10 AM.


hamhockjones #2 Posted 11 July 2018 - 02:16 AM

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I LIKE IT, I LOVE IT, I WANT SOME MORE OF IT !!!

 



elasar #3 Posted 11 July 2018 - 03:18 AM

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Dont think it will ever happen,all great ideas,But did you notice they went backwards in the mini patch made salvage parts even harder to get

Bobby_Tables #4 Posted 11 July 2018 - 05:51 AM

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View Postelasar, on 10 July 2018 - 09:18 PM, said:

Dont think it will ever happen,all great ideas,But did you notice they went backwards in the mini patch made salvage parts even harder to get

 

Got me the ninja salvagers.  Did you not see it in the premium shop?  They recover 1000% more salvage parts than your standard techs.  Only 15,000 Gold, but you have to act fast.  There are a limited number of ninja salvagers and they are going fast in the premium shop.  If you cannot find them, they are probably gone.  I get about 100 parts per game whether I win or lose. 

 

BTW:  WOWP is NOT pay to win.  You just need to be smart.  

 

Later, salvage losers, I am off to steal all your parts!!!!   

 

/sarc



FluffyPabu #5 Posted 11 July 2018 - 08:00 AM

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No matter how much we try to explain our problems, the posts that we post here and the suggestions we give to the CC, are all thrown to the trashcan. When was the last time they listened about anything? Typical auto answer from Support will be "We understand your frustration". Lets face it, this is not gonna change.

yyt_hero #6 Posted 11 July 2018 - 09:17 AM

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Longsite they don't care! As long as they are getting paid and are able to pay there bills and them self they don't care. That's it its All about the Money honey and as long as we play and buy they are satisfied sure they do this and that but they do what it takes to satisfy us. 

 



Battlementca #7 Posted 11 July 2018 - 03:09 PM

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Stop the unlimited re-spawn for defense aircraft, and the only way to retake an area is to destory the aaa and all the buildings....  Period.....

 

I disagree with this statement. You effectively make fighters useless. Imagine being in a fighter and having your last GAA or bomber bot shot down after the squall . There would nothing that could be done to retake any bases for the rest of the game. On the flip side, what if I argued that none of the buildings or AA should respawn? Both ground and air targets should be available to be destroyed in order to capture a zone. The game already has zones that have no air defense aircraft, and need to be captured completely by destroying ground targets. There is no zone that has only aircraft and no ground targets.

 

I do however agree that the bots are dumb and something should be done about them because games should be determined by players and skill rather than the RNG of the bots on your team.



CorvusCorvax #8 Posted 11 July 2018 - 03:37 PM

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View PostBattlementca, on 11 July 2018 - 03:09 PM, said:

 

 

 

I do however agree that the bots are dumb and something should be done about them because games should be determined by players and skill rather than the RNG of the bots on your team.

This is really the part that gripes me the most.  I flew a few times yesterday, and my w/l stands at 67% for the day.  The wins came when I brought aircraft that carry bombs.  I was able to directly influence the capture clock on every zone I entered with bomb-laden aircraft.  But I was pretty mad about my bot team mates getting shot down in-zone, making my work harder.  In the games I did not carry bombs, my bot team mates had even less effect on the final score.  I had three bots with final scores of 1000.  IOW, they did exactly nothing during the game, except occupy airspace.



Longsite #9 Posted 11 July 2018 - 04:25 PM

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Battlementca , I understand your concern but look at most air battle in history, the fighters protected the bombers.  We as humans can and will design our strategy better, find a way to protect our gaa and bomber.  Maybe more people will flight up with individuals that fly gaa and bombers to make the game go better. 

 

This game was build on the ideal of historic aircraft and battles, lets learn from those who paved the way and follow their lead, protect the bomber, clear the skies, when there are no gaa or bomber, make changes that will lead U to a Win.....  Just my 2 cent......


Edited by Longsite, 11 July 2018 - 04:27 PM.


elasar #10 Posted 11 July 2018 - 07:36 PM

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Well said i Flighted up my il20 with apilot in a fighter he flew cover we won 4 games straight

 



AmericanKestrel #11 Posted 12 July 2018 - 09:35 AM

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View PostBattlementca, on 11 July 2018 - 10:09 AM, said:

 

I disagree with this statement. You effectively make fighters useless. Imagine being in a fighter and having your last GAA or bomber bot shot down after the squall . There would nothing that could be done to retake any bases for the rest of the game. On the flip side, what if I argued that none of the buildings or AA should respawn? Both ground and air targets should be available to be destroyed in order to capture a zone. The game already has zones that have no air defense aircraft, and need to be captured completely by destroying ground targets. There is no zone that has only aircraft and no ground targets.

 

I do however agree that the bots are dumb and something should be done about them because games should be determined by players and skill rather than the RNG of the bots on your team.

 

The problem is the bots and how MM assigns them to a team.  Not all bots are created equal.  Some are smarter and usually on the other team.

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Constructive feedback and helpful criticisms noted.

Aleczander_G #13 Posted 17 July 2018 - 06:19 AM

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View PostLongsite, on 11 July 2018 - 01:54 AM, said:

Hey WG and all in the WG community, I just had an awful game, I'm not mad I lost, I sadden that it makes no sense that I lost.
Lets review why anyone plays, to have Fun, to Enjoy themself and to Connect with Friends.  Others play to let off steam, to wreck someone else day and to improve there ability.
 
WG you added bots to enrich the experenences and to give us more to work for and fight against.  So why the dumb bots, why do bots control the outcome of most battles, why don't bots have the ability to help and keep area's, some just fly around and don't engage in helping win the battle.   Here's a few ideals to help with that problem, give the gaa the ability to point out an area that they are going to and all other gaa's should follow them....  Same with the bombers....
 
I understand the ideal about the re-spawning but u put the humans at a disadvanage with that bullsh*t.  lets change that to when the squaw line is reached no other team can re-spawn, and that to include the defense aircraft, why do they have unlimited re-spawning, people hate it when they make it to the squaw line (or whatever the hell its called) and they have losted HP and just lost an area that they died in  to go retake it and suddely 6 defense aircraft appear out of nowhere and U still have to fight the enemy team.....  Heres a fix it ideal : Stop the unlimited re-spawn for defense aircraft, and the only way to retake an area is to destory the aaa and all the buildings....  Period.....
 
In higher tier lets fix the MM, its sad that from tier 7 to tier 10 U find yourself the only human against a flight of humans, sure U sometime upgrade the bots but it not fair play.  It make for an ulgy battle and pushes some from going into the higher tier.  A quick fix would be to wait until another flight of human can be put against them, one tier up or down, just give others a fair chance to win...  And no Bots are not the answer,  bots on each team should be the same in ability but they are not.....
Also who's ideal to program all the bots to go to difference area,  why don't u program the bots to follow the humans, u somehow have program enemy bots that no matter what they are doing to attack the humans as soon as they show up to an area?

U put the people that pay to keep your game alive to follow bots, WTH?  Please give us a little ability to win by giving us the tools to win, sure we will make mistakes and there will be argument among us but in the end we will work it out.

Now this grind to get to Specialist is bad enough but to make us do that [edited]of spinning to get calibration is the dumbest ideal I have every heard of.  U add something that U think is great to the game, and U make all our aircraft weaker and to get the best performance we must grind to Specialist to get back to some type of elite status, are U kidding me.....  and we must spin the bottle to get to the last 100 points.   Guys get real that is hella dumb......  Plus on top of that U make it harder to get Salvage Parts...

Easy fix, lets us buy the last 100 points and make it easier to get Salvage Parts, a lot easier, hell give some away with some type of mission......  Yes it may hurt your profits but it will keep people playing, your choice........
 
Also take a day and make it a mission day, like on friday, between 2pm to 2am it's give away friday to all that fly a certain tier (like tier 5 and 6) they get a free comsumable or salvage parts and 5x HP during that time period.  It would get a lot of people into the game and give them the ability to grind up easier......    Please help us deal with some of the stupid things that U have done with that last patch.  (plus it looks good for all the problems we live with that U still haven't fixed yet....)
I have a bunch of ideal if U wish it hear them, Hell a lot of people have ideals, make a call out on the forms if we have ideals and lets up post them to U.....  I can't Hurt and U might profit from it,  think about it...…
 
Well that's it for me, but believe me, a lot of people, like myself are not satisfied with the game in its current state, we know U can be and get better if U just applied yourself, good luck.......
 
Longsite
ps: sorry for the mistakes in this posting, I'm just done with the [edited]that happens in the game, glhf.....

 

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medoyehd #14 Posted 17 July 2018 - 11:31 AM

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View Posthamhockjones, on 11 July 2018 - 09:16 AM, said:

I LIKE IT, I LOVE IT, I WANT SOME MORE OF IT !!!

 

 

Make it hurt Drill Sergent, make it hurt. Hooah!

 

Sorry flashbacks 


Edited by medoyehd, 17 July 2018 - 11:32 AM.





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