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Akirishin #1 Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:29 AM

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Greetings and salutations fellow pilots, this is Akirishin. In this video I take a short look at Update 2.0.5 and share some preliminary thoughts about it. I hope you find it helpful.

 

 

 

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Bubba_Zanetti #2 Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:34 AM

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So, in your opinion, is this update the "Cats Meow"?

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Akirishin #3 Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:48 AM

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View PostBubba_Zanetti, on 13 June 2018 - 01:34 AM, said:

So, in your opinion, is this update the "Cats Meow"?

 

I don't know Bubba.  I like the simplicity of the game now.  Makes the focus more on skill than this part or that part.  But it does bring more of a tinkering element into the game and I do like to tinker.  SWTOR was one of my favorite games of all time.  Now I hardly ever play it because every time I worked hard to get my toon where I wanted it equipment wise, they went and changed everything.  I just wanted to set up my toon and enjoy the gameplay and perfect my skill.  Instead it became a new grind every six months or so.  I hope that doesn't happen here.  I am keeping an open mind.  The changes could be great.  I am just a little concerned.  I don't know if anyone shares my concern.  Time will sort all of this out.

SpiritFoxMY #4 Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:53 AM

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NO BOMBS ON WÜRGERS

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Bubba_Zanetti #5 Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:53 AM

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View PostAkirishin, on 12 June 2018 - 08:48 PM, said:

 

I don't know Bubba.  I like the simplicity of the game now.  Makes the focus more on skill than this part or that part.  But it does bring more of a tinkering element into the game and I do like to tinker.  SWTOR was one of my favorite games of all time.  Now I hardly ever play it because every time I worked hard to get my toon where I wanted it equipment wise, they went and changed everything.  I just wanted to set up my toon and enjoy the gameplay and perfect my skill.  Instead it became a new grind every six months or so.  I hope that doesn't happen here.  I am keeping an open mind.  The changes could be great.  I am just a little concerned.  I don't know if anyone shares my concern.  Time will sort all of this out.

 

Can't "axe" for more than your honest opinion! TY!

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 13 June 2018 - 01:53 AM, said:

NO BOMBS ON WÜRGERS

 

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I'm kind of with you on not wanting things to be more complicated. Part of the reason I don't spend time on World of Tanks but I do play World of Tanks blitz is because blitz is a lot less complicated and puts you right in the action. But, there's not much use speculating on what will be until we see what it really is. I am excited for the update just because it proves that they are at least trying to improve the game. But, I'd rather see more fixes for common issues and more new aircraft instead of a more complicated consumable/equipment setup.

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View PostDru83, on 13 June 2018 - 02:44 AM, said:

I'm kind of with you on not wanting things to be more complicated. Part of the reason I don't spend time on World of Tanks but I do play World of Tanks blitz is because blitz is a lot less complicated and puts you right in the action. But, there's not much use speculating on what will be until we see what it really is. I am excited for the update just because it proves that they are at least trying to improve the game. But, I'd rather see more fixes for common issues and more new aircraft instead of a more complicated consumable/equipment setup.

 

^^^this

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View PostDru83, on 13 June 2018 - 02:44 AM, said:

I'm kind of with you on not wanting things to be more complicated. Part of the reason I don't spend time on World of Tanks but I do play World of Tanks blitz is because blitz is a lot less complicated and puts you right in the action. But, there's not much use speculating on what will be until we see what it really is. I am excited for the update just because it proves that they are at least trying to improve the game. But, I'd rather see more fixes for common issues and more new aircraft instead of a more complicated consumable/equipment setup.

 

View PostDru83, on 13 June 2018 - 02:44 AM, said:

I'm kind of with you on not wanting things to be more complicated. Part of the reason I don't spend time on World of Tanks but I do play World of Tanks blitz is because blitz is a lot less complicated and puts you right in the action. But, there's not much use speculating on what will be until we see what it really is. I am excited for the update just because it proves that they are at least trying to improve the game. But, I'd rather see more fixes for common issues and more new aircraft instead of a more complicated consumable/equipment setup.

 

I agree.  Especially about new aircraft.  There are so many new and exciting aircraft that could be introduced.  How about introducing a bomber protection mission.  One team to protect the bombers, one to try and take them and the protecting team out.  Just like the real WW II!

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View PostAkirishin, on 12 June 2018 - 10:35 PM, said:

I agree.  Especially about new aircraft.  There are so many new and exciting aircraft that could be introduced.  How about introducing a bomber protection mission.  One team to protect the bombers, one to try and take them and the protecting team out.  Just like the real WW II!

 

GAAs spawning at 3000 meters up in the air. It would be cool for about two seconds until they stall and plummet to the ground :kamikaze:

 

And I really want more GAAs. I grinded all I was interested in grinding, but I need more ways to pound the ground :playing:


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View PostLMG, on 13 June 2018 - 12:45 PM, said:

 

GAAs spawning at 3000 meters up in the air. It would be cool for about two seconds until they stall and plummet to the ground :kamikaze:

 

And I really want more GAAs. I grinded all I was interested in grinding, but I need more ways to pound the ground :playing:

 

Go into Multiroles and spec them for better reload with the new equipment :p 

 

I'm cautiously optimistic about this as it answers some requests for more customizability of the airplanes raised... oh five, six months ago. It isn't exactly what was asked for but its close.

 

My only gripe is being forced to use the max upgrades for every plane in order to get the Specialist configs. They should have left weapons and ordnance as options rather than forcing a full upgrade.

 

Wait and see and all that...


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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 12 June 2018 - 11:52 PM, said:

 

Go into Multiroles and spec them for better reload with the new equipment :p 

 

I'm cautiously optimistic about this as it answers some requests for more customizability of the airplanes raised... oh five, six months ago. It isn't exactly what was asked for but its close.

 

My only gripe is being forced to use the max upgrades for every plane in order to get the Specialist configs. They should have left weapons and ordnance as options rather than forcing a full upgrade.

 

Wait and see and all that...

 

The more I look into the equipment, the more doubtful I am about it. In theory there's more options for what to do, but you'll either cripple your plane beyond usability or waste most of your equipment "hiding" all the negatives that pile up from both the equipment you want and the equipment you're using to hide the negatives in the first place. There's a term for that type of system, but I forget what it is; where you want to add A, but when you add A you need to add B to counteract it, and when you add B you need to add more A as a consequence, and it keeps on piling up making the problem bigger :amazed:


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View PostLMG, on 13 June 2018 - 01:04 PM, said:

 

The more I look into the equipment, the more doubtful I am about it. In theory there's more options for what to do, but you'll either cripple your plane beyond usability or waste most of your equipment "hiding" all the negatives that pile up from both the equipment you want and the equipment you're using to hide the negatives in the first place. There's a term for that type of system, but I forget what it is; where you want to add A, but when you add A you need to add B to counteract it, and when you add B you need to add more A as a consequence, and it keeps on piling up making the problem bigger :amazed:

 

They don't have equipment for my preferred Focke Wulf playstyle (none of the equipmemt improves boost regen), but overall I'm not overly concerned about the penalties. Then again, I fly BnZ... a lot of the yaw penalties don't trouble me overmuch. Same with HP penalties.

 

We'll see. I'm hoping all of this will allow me to turn the B.V.215.02 into an effective Missile Boat rather than a gimped heavy fighter


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I just hope they fix the damn hanger.  Its so damn slow that I can walk away and get a drink while it refreshes after  a filter change.

Write the code so it can handle an account with over 200 planes! 

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All of these changes that increase your time in the hanger and I can't even change the paint on my bird or chat with a friend without getting dropped by the server.

 

Also, instead of focusing only on GAA's, it seems that I will just have to focus on either my Russian line or my German line because my time spent in game is not flexible.


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Yeah, I really don't want to spend a bunch of time in the hangar trying to balance this and that and the other thing.  Then add some random dice roll to the whole business about "research and calibration"?  Sounds like a way to have us part with our silver (and gold).

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OK, as a GAA pilot, here is the scenario;  I get an improved Bombsight; now my reload speed is down 3-5% so I get Hardpoints; now my cruise speed and boost down 3-3.4%; I get an uprated engine to increase my cruise speed and now my resistance to fire is up 5-9%; I'll get a fire extinguisher that doubled in price (6K). 

 

For the life of me, I can't grasp why a gun-sight would decrease my resistance to injury (add padding for heaven's sake) but that is another path of expenditures that will slow me down. 

 

I'm getting a better picture of the dynamics than I had yesterday; especially in material acquisition.  

 

"In the future, the game will offer other opportunities to obtain Materials."  What could that be, um I don't know; Gold perhaps.  

 

I get it; there has to be $teady income revenue to support the game and perhaps that is what is holding up the support that we desperately need.  I spend my $ on gold that I convert to premium when I'm flying but I'm holding back on the planes because I don't know where the game is going.  

 

This will be a critical weekend of evaluation for me.

 

 

Oh, are bots getting these enhancements too?  :B


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View PostCyberdog52, on 13 June 2018 - 05:04 PM, said:

 

 

"In the future, the game will offer other opportunities to obtain Materials."  What could that be, um I don't know; Gold perhaps.  

 

 

That was my guess.  And a system akin to gambling, where you pay money, take a chance on calibration, and maybe get something about equal to what you have now (nothing added), or something somewhat better, but unknown how much better.  The gambling model is a great one, because it will work much better at bringing in cash, especially from newer players seeking an edge.  It's a bit of a slog, but look up the psychology of gambling - it's fascinating.

 

I do think that GAA are getting a buff at lower tier out of all this.  I can't put my finger on why, yet.  But it feels that way, for some reason.



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 13 June 2018 - 02:19 PM, said:

That was my guess.  And a system akin to gambling, where you pay money, take a chance on calibration, and maybe get something about equal to what you have now (nothing added), or something somewhat better, but unknown how much better.  The gambling model is a great one, because it will work much better at bringing in cash, especially from newer players seeking an edge.  It's a bit of a slog, but look up the psychology of gambling - it's fascinating.

 

I do think that GAA are getting a buff at lower tier out of all this.  I can't put my finger on why, yet.  But it feels that way, for some reason.

 

I believe it's cheaper for the TSh-2 and TSh-3 to run Universal ammo, so they can work with RNG fires for extra ground pounding potential :playing:


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On ammunition changing into consumables:

 

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On equipments and crunching the manual...

 

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