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SpiritFoxMY #1 Posted 12 June 2018 - 06:48 AM

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So I'm on the Attacker and the Huckebein at this point and I'm curious about the differences between the tier 10s at the end of each line because I don't see how the Fw252 has any advantages whatsoever over the Swift stats-wise. Better roll, more HP, better DPM but at shorter ranges...

 

Are there any "hidden stats" that would give the 252 an edge? A longer, more powerful boost? Better gun handling? Superior energy retention or generation?

 

Why would I choose the 252 over the Swift is what I'm asking.


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Reitousair #2 Posted 12 June 2018 - 08:23 AM

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The Fw 252 features a more powerful boost along with 2 more seconds over the Swift if I recall, along with better energy retention, something many people don't think about is that it actually has better control authority, so if you can make use of all of your control surfaces it's pretty fierce in a dogfight. I can't comment on gun handling because both seem to be a bit... weird to hit with and even with Marksman 2 + Gunsight they can be quite inconsistent.

 

But, to be honest, just get the Swift if you're familiar with ADEN's, Fw 252 requires far more effort to make use of than the Swift and you'll hardly notice any disadvantage against a Fw 252 unless they're able to make use of the benefits above.


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SpiritFoxMY #3 Posted 12 June 2018 - 09:51 AM

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Not familiar with either set of 30mms, just the old MK103s and MK108s. I'm mostly a Messerschmitt and Focke-Wulf player and my main beef with the 252 is that it doesn't seem to have any advantages over the Swift - it's slower on the flat and in a dive, it has a longer turning time, lower climb, higher stall speeds, shorter ranged guns and the same optimum altitude. I just don't know how I would beat a Swift in a straight fight.

 

The only hope would be a longer, more powerful boost and better acceleration in all axis tied with superior energy retention in turns and climbs. None of which are accounted for in the stats. 


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ArrowZ_ #4 Posted 12 June 2018 - 01:32 PM

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Both of those 30mms at T10 hit faster and harder but only if you can land them which is the catch to alot of these 30mm fighter jets. If you're struggling with the huckebein don't bother with the Fw252. I actually did a video on that jet a month ago and while I was surprised at its boost acceleration capabilities along with its high altitude ratings, the amount of effort to gain kills as well as maintain your BnZ advantage is quite rough with the Fw252. It looks to me the Swift is a better choice despite the lack in altitude. But imo the swift's acceleration more than makes up for its lack in high altitude capabilities. I'm still going to fly my 252 here and there. Just not as much as my swift.

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SpiritFoxMY #5 Posted 12 June 2018 - 03:51 PM

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I find the Huckebein very "meh" because of its firepower - the MK108s aren't completely terrible, but they come close. The playstyle is fine by me - I made it all the way through the Focke Wulf line and enjoyed almost every minute of it after all - but the guns just aren't able to dish out the kind of reliable firepower most of the other planes can, an issue I felt afflicted the Ta 152 as well.

 

But thanks for the input, everyone. Nice vids of the 252, ArrowZ_. I'll file this under "favor Swift"; after all, all I want is a steady tier 10 to fly since I find the B.V.215.02 wholly uninspiring in terms of performance and capability, I'm still a fair bit away from the Sabre and I've stalled out over the thoroughly bleh Lavochkin and MiG mid-tiers. 


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ArrowZ_ #6 Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:55 AM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 13 June 2018 - 01:21 AM, said:

I find the Huckebein very "meh" because of its firepower - the MK108s aren't completely terrible, but they come close. The playstyle is fine by me - I made it all the way through the Focke Wulf line and enjoyed almost every minute of it after all - but the guns just aren't able to dish out the kind of reliable firepower most of the other planes can, an issue I felt afflicted the Ta 152 as well.

 

But thanks for the input, everyone. Nice vids of the 252, ArrowZ_. I'll file this under "favor Swift"; after all, all I want is a steady tier 10 to fly since I find the B.V.215.02 wholly uninspiring in terms of performance and capability, I'm still a fair bit away from the Sabre and I've stalled out over the thoroughly bleh Lavochkin and MiG mid-tiers. 

 

Thx man! Unfortunately now that video will soon become obselete with these (another) revamp to equipment and consumables setup systems. If you want a nice tier 10 the Mig-15bis outperforms all the rest in the same tier by a large margin. That line is worth the grind.

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FIight #7 Posted 13 June 2018 - 03:02 AM

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Personally, fw252 is more difficult to handle and the speed retention is not as good as Swift despite it accelerates faster.

FW252 has 2 more seconds of boost, but has less turn rate; Swift can equip Dunkirk pilot which maximized her advantage:

when < 50% hp the boost power increases by 20% and turn rate increases by 10%, almost unbeatable.



SpiritFoxMY #8 Posted 29 June 2018 - 02:22 AM

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Is there any difference in the equipment slots available for these planes (at least once they're specialized?)

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Reitousair #9 Posted 29 June 2018 - 06:02 AM

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Nope, they get the exact same equipment/consumable slots with your guns and second engine equipment slots being locked until specialist on both. You're also locked out of second engine consumable on both until specialist.

 

So, to start stock, you get cockpit, airframe, first engine for equipment slots. Same for consumable slots.


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SpiritFoxMY #10 Posted 29 June 2018 - 07:55 AM

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View PostReitousair, on 29 June 2018 - 02:02 PM, said:

Nope, they get the exact same equipment/consumable slots with your guns and second engine equipment slots being locked until specialist on both. You're also locked out of second engine consumable on both until specialist.

 

So, to start stock, you get cockpit, airframe, first engine for equipment slots. Same for consumable slots.

 

hm, ok. Thanks again. The whole thing seems like a colossal loser for the tier X Germans. 

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