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GonerNL #21 Posted 14 June 2018 - 01:40 PM

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View Postpyantoryng, on 14 June 2018 - 01:20 PM, said:

(no more super rear gun for you though, the turret slot won't accept equipments).

 

It doesn't ?? (haven't played 2.0.5 yet ...)

But then why are there Turret Armor Protection,Turret Gun Laying Drive and Turret Gunsight for the Turrets slot ??

 

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SpiritFoxMY #22 Posted 14 June 2018 - 01:43 PM

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NO BOMBS ON WÜRGERS :angry:

 

 


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pyantoryng #23 Posted 14 June 2018 - 01:44 PM

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View PostGonerNL, on 14 June 2018 - 08:40 PM, said:

 

It doesn't ?? (haven't played 2.0.5 yet ...)

But then why are there Turret Armor Protection,Turret Gun Laying Drive and Turret Gunsight for the Turrets slot ??

 

http://blog.worldofw...nd-calibration/

 

 

Exclusive to bomber I think...



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SpiritFoxMY #24 Posted 14 June 2018 - 01:46 PM

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KEINE BOMBEN AUF WÜRGER


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SpiritFoxMY #25 Posted 14 June 2018 - 01:54 PM

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Никаких бомб на WÜRGER

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pyantoryng #26 Posted 14 June 2018 - 01:55 PM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 14 June 2018 - 08:46 PM, said:

KEINE BOMBEN AUF WÜRGER

 

Don't worry, you won't need the specialist config if you want to go nicht bomben, and you won't be getting it anyway, because you need to angriffen die ground targets for it. :trollface:

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View Postpyantoryng, on 14 June 2018 - 09:55 PM, said:

 

Don't worry, you won't need the specialist config if you want to go nicht bomben, and you won't be getting it anyway, because you need to angriffen die ground targets for it. :trollface:

 

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pyantoryng #28 Posted 14 June 2018 - 02:01 PM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 14 June 2018 - 08:56 PM, said:

 

The one plane I truly wanted to remake in my image :(

 

"Make your own plane"...Pah!

 

You can't use certain things at all outside of specialist config...



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ArrowZ_ #29 Posted 14 June 2018 - 02:52 PM

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I honestly thought I could build a sooped up BnZ -> TnB beast with all these equipment choices with all that talk of freedom and choice. Turns out there's restrictions in place in each slots for the sake of balance. All Specialist does is increase the amount of open slots you can use. But the restriction in one equipment per slot still remains. To make that even worse equipments are now locked onto their historical periods and design columns (cockpit, engine, turret etc)...That pretty much means you're always going to have RED stats on all your planes no matter what. And the real challenge will be to make sure they aren't as high during the calibrate/enhancing process... and my god the RNG in this process...

 

Wow... I cannot believe WOWP is taking a turn into this RNGfest that I despised alot with these other MMOs. Now there's more of it....damn. :(

 

Oh well.. im going to bed. That's enough playing around with roullettes and dice roll games.


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View PostArrowZ_, on 14 June 2018 - 02:52 PM, said:

I honestly thought I could build a sooped up BnZ -> TnB beast with all these equipment choices with all that talk of freedom and choice. Turns out there's restrictions in place in each slots for the sake of balance. All Specialist does is increase the amount of open slots you can use. But the restriction in one equipment per slot still remains. To make that even worse equipments are now locked onto their historical periods and design columns (cockpit, engine, turret etc)...That pretty much means you're always going to have RED stats on all your planes no matter what. And the real challenge will be to make sure they aren't as high during the calibrate/enhancing process... and my god the RNG in this process...

 

Wow... I cannot believe WOWP is taking a turn into this RNGfest that I despised alot with these other MMOs. Now there's more of it....damn. :(

 

Oh well.. im going to bed. That's enough playing around with roullettes and dice roll games.

 

That's the gambling model I was talking about.  The gambling model is designed to separate you from your money as fast as possible.  Some folks will get lucky, and get a great pull at the slot machine.  If they stop there, they are ahead.  If they pull the handle more, WG is ahead.  That way, even a small player population can spend big money.  I need to get one of my aircraft to Specialist, just to see how much money we are going to be spending.  

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 14 June 2018 - 10:18 PM, said:

 

That's the gambling model I was talking about.  The gambling model is designed to separate you from your money as fast as possible.  Some folks will get lucky, and get a great pull at the slot machine.  If they stop there, they are ahead.  If they pull the handle more, WG is ahead.  That way, even a small player population can spend big money.  I need to get one of my aircraft to Specialist, just to see how much money we are going to be spending.  

 

Going to specialist status in a Multirole is a significant grind...even in as low tier as 2, due to how the points from aircraft kill is calculated, and you need to win to score on that category too.

 

By the time you specialist a couple planes you would have enough junk to do some things...or so WG intends...:unsure:

 

BTW, there's no way to buy more tokens and extra junk for the time being, and silver is easy enough to farm, still.



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Krautjaeger #32 Posted 14 June 2018 - 04:14 PM

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Not quite sure what they are doing as optimization goes, when I started playing 2.0 I averaged about 72fps at 3440x1440 with all settings on max. Today I averaged 34 fps when settings set to medium-high. w t f... Running a ASUS ROG Strix 1070 GTX OC 8gb, what are they aiming for? People with dual 1080 cards?

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View Postpyantoryng, on 14 June 2018 - 04:12 PM, said:

 

Going to specialist status in a Multirole is a significant grind...even in as low tier as 2, due to how the points from aircraft kill is calculated, and you need to win to score on that category too.

 

By the time you specialist a couple planes you would have enough junk to do some things...or so WG intends...:unsure:

 

BTW, there's no way to buy more tokens and extra junk for the time being, and silver is easy enough to farm, still.

 

I will have to look again at my Tornado and the requirements for specialist.  Maybe even play a bit to see about how long it will take.

 

This morning, I set up my Me-262 for a fight and made a couple of control set-up mistakes that cost me what little maneuverability the plane had to begin with, which led to me doing all kinds of stupid stuff in order to see if my changes had any real effect.  Another 10k point loss, but hey, at least the final score overall wasn't even close!  For a plane like the 262, the equipment and pilot skills are easy to figure out.  Engine, guns.  That's it.  For planes like the Tornado, I don't know yet.



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I only had time for one match, but my fps seems much improved. I was dipping to 20 fps before, now it seems a stable 60+.

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Ok, so I fiddled around a bit and it would seem once you've "specialized" the plane, there is nothing preventing you from removing your outboard ordnance and just running a plane with whatever you like strapped under it (or not as the case may be)

 

So I paid 110 Tokens to "Specialize" my B.V.212.03 (seriously, does anyone actually use that for ground attack at all?). I was tempted to try an tough it out with the 190 A-5 and grind the specialization the old fashioned way but...

 

...all that new whiz-bang stats on the stat card seem to have ignored the fact that external ordnance still have pretty severe negative impacts on speed and maneuverability and strapping a load of explosives on my beautiful butcher bird turned her into a flying pig even though the stats don't show it in the hangar. I'm pretty sure they impose penalties on rate of roll and acceleration as well because... flying with ordnance strapped on felt...like flying with ordnance strapped on.

 

So I threw 60 Tokens to "Specialize" my beloved Würger and then immediately stripped all external ordnance off it and... that did not seem to affect the plane's "Specialized" status one bit: I still had all four equipment and consumable slots (Cockpit, Airframe, Engine and Cannon). I couldn't tell if I'm still getting the bonus XP the plane is supposed to get and its too soon to see if my Equipment will be limited to only "Improved" without my bombs and rockets fitted but for now, I'm satisfied.

 

Also, a fully Specialized airplane has a goddamn "Specialist" marker on it highlighting the pilot for all to see. Its like a freakin' "SHOOT ME" flag out there and its hilarious to think about. 

 

But anyway, yes - for now, no bombs on my Würger. Straight up fighter, with Reflector Gunsight, Improved Lightweight Wing Frame, Improved Engine Boost Mixture Injection System and Improved Reinforced Bolt Carriers.

 

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SpiritFoxMY #36 Posted 14 June 2018 - 05:27 PM

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Didn't notice any performance issues although Michael had this weird bug that kept dismounting all his equipment. I just had an invisible MiG-3.

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 14 June 2018 - 03:18 PM, said:

 

That's the gambling model I was talking about.  The gambling model is designed to separate you from your money as fast as possible.  Some folks will get lucky, and get a great pull at the slot machine.  If they stop there, they are ahead.  If they pull the handle more, WG is ahead.  That way, even a small player population can spend big money.  I need to get one of my aircraft to Specialist, just to see how much money we are going to be spending.  

 

Yes, back to the old loot box ploy... we all knew it was coming back.. and of course the changes are some Derp hack programmer, because all the [edited]smoke, glare, birds in the game wthcare? I am so tired of WG's low budget errors...This is why I didn't buy back into the game after 1.9 rip off.

WG says "We give you pretty scenery during the holidays... Quit complaining the game is junk and full of Bugs its only been 2 years...."

 

 


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This seems overly complicated and I don't really understand all of it yet. But I have never finished a token mission as I have not made it to tier 8 yet. I have been away from the game due to real life concerns, and was going to start playing again, but it seems like I will be at a huge disadvantage. Am I reading this wrong?

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View PostWombatmetal, on 14 June 2018 - 12:21 PM, said:

This seems overly complicated and I don't really understand all of it yet. But I have never finished a token mission as I have not made it to tier 8 yet. I have been away from the game due to real life concerns, and was going to start playing again, but it seems like I will be at a huge disadvantage. Am I reading this wrong?

 

I dunno man, all this is way too much for me to care about.  It's a way to separate people from their money. 

 

To me it's all imaginary [edited]anyway.   I am just going to shoot people down if I still care to play.  They can trick out their pixel plane as they wish.  Not gonna make them pixel bullet proof.       



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View PostWombatmetal, on 14 June 2018 - 06:21 PM, said:

This seems overly complicated and I don't really understand all of it yet. But I have never finished a token mission as I have not made it to tier 8 yet. I have been away from the game due to real life concerns, and was going to start playing again, but it seems like I will be at a huge disadvantage. Am I reading this wrong?

 

Oh, you can still play without spending tokens.  You'll just have to play smarter than the dudes who pay to outfit their planes.  I'm going to see if I can be competitive without spending money.  So far, I've purchased aircraft and not spent much otherwise.  We'll see how that works out.

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