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Prenzlau #1 Posted 03 June 2018 - 11:14 PM

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So... maybe someone who understands statistics far better than I do, can explain how this all works. You have total battle participated in. That includes your wins and loses. But we also have draws, that apparently are NOT added into the total numbers of battles. Yet when I received a draw, it lowered my win percentage. 

 

So can someone please explain how a draw can lower your win percentage when it is not counted into your total battles? Do draws count statistically or not? 

 

So I am perplexed. 

 

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mnbv_fockewulfe #2 Posted 03 June 2018 - 11:31 PM

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Think of it like a pie divided into three sections.

Say you have a 100 battles in one pie: 50 of them are wins, 50 are loses, 0 draws.

Now imagine a different pie: 49 wins, 50 loses, 1 draw. 

Draws are counted in your total number of battles 


After reading the OP again this explanation doesn't make sense. 

2+2=5

russian math is stronk.

screenshot of your stats please? 


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mnbv_fockewulfe #3 Posted 03 June 2018 - 11:43 PM

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Battles Fought 3,279
Victories 2,148 (65.51%)
Draws 5 (0%)
Defeats

1,126 (34%)

 

I did the math and 2148/3279=.065507 or 65.507% which comes within rounding.

2148+1126+5 also happens to equal 3279 so I'm not seeing the issue. 

 

edit: hold it a second, I think I see the issue. If you're worried that 65.51+34=99.51 it's because of WG's weird policy with rounding and the fact that the draws account for .15% of your battles and your loses actually comprise 34.34%.


Edited by mnbv_fockewulfe, 03 June 2018 - 11:48 PM.

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shirime #4 Posted 03 June 2018 - 11:47 PM

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Interesting, which source are you looking at where Wins + Draws + Loses does not equal Battles Fought?

 

From the "Player Profile" page on the website I have:

 

Battles Fought 3,506
Victories 2,255 (64.32%)
Draws 7 (0%)
Defeats 1,244 (35%)

 

2255 + 7 + 1244 = 3506. It seems like draws get their own %, so from the perspective of win rate, they're the same as a loss.

 

 



Prenzlau #5 Posted 04 June 2018 - 12:08 AM

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I was looking at the stat page from the game in the profile section.

 

It says "Battles Participated" which I assume are total battles. 2,149 + 1,128 = 3,277 which does not seem to include the 5 draws? It is possible the stats on the profile in game page and the stats on the World of Warplanes Stat page are slightly different? What I am missing here? If draws are counted, then fine, that explains a lot, but if I read this profile page, it does not add up. 

 

Thanks for your help by the way, much appreciated. 

 

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Edited by Prenzlau, 04 June 2018 - 12:09 AM.

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shirime #6 Posted 04 June 2018 - 12:28 AM

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Maybe I'm losing it, which is probable, but it says your "Battles Participated" is 3282; It looks like the "Battles Participated" includes wins, loses, and draws: 2149 + 1128 + 5 = 3282.

 

It does look like there's rounding down on the win rate, assuming that win rate is percentage of battles participated which are wins 2149/3282 = 65.4783%...

 



mnbv_fockewulfe #7 Posted 04 June 2018 - 12:46 AM

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View PostPrenzlau, on 04 June 2018 - 12:08 AM, said:

I was looking at the stat page from the game in the profile section.

 

It says "Battles Participated" which I assume are total battles. 2,149 + 1,128 = 3,277 which does not seem to include the 5 draws? It is possible the stats on the profile in game page and the stats on the World of Warplanes Stat page are slightly different? What I am missing here? If draws are counted, then fine, that explains a lot, but if I read this profile page, it does not add up. 

 

Thanks for your help by the way, much appreciated. 

 

Prenzlau

 

Just quickly glancing at it, everything checks out and the math error is just imagined. 
shirime seems to be right that the ingame is rounding down as opposed to the rounding up on the website page.

 


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Caducus46 #8 Posted 04 June 2018 - 12:48 AM

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The games participated in on the website lags behind. It catches up within a few hours, maybe a bit longer.

Flying_Waldo #9 Posted 21 June 2018 - 11:27 PM

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Where do you find Wins vs Losses for individual planes? I usually dump planes with lower win percentage, but I can't find the stats in new version.

vcharng #10 Posted 22 June 2018 - 01:14 AM

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View PostFlying_Waldo, on 21 June 2018 - 11:27 PM, said:

Where do you find Wins vs Losses for individual planes? I usually dump planes with lower win percentage, but I can't find the stats in new version.

 

I started playing in 2.0.0, and as of 2.0.5, there is no such a function.

Perco_lator #11 Posted 22 June 2018 - 01:32 AM

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Draws are included in your total games played giving them the same weight as losses with respect to W/R.

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