Jump to content


Learning is a good thing.

energy fighter engine upgrades Bf-109

  • Please log in to reply
11 replies to this topic

CorvusCorvax #1 Posted 29 May 2018 - 04:24 PM

    Second Lieutenant

  • Member
  • 2004 battles
  • 1,903
  • [JG52] JG52
  • Member since:
    01-26-2012

During this Attrition weekend I learned something very important about the Bf-109.  I have the Emil, and the Emil was a great plane the way I had it specced.  But I got the inside scoop from someone who rocks this plane in the way it should be played - a guy who made 12k personal points in every match we played together.

 

Maximize the speed.

 

His set-up was to maximize the speed first.  Engine Guru I and II.  Engine Tuning.  Aerodynamics expert.

 

Then, on top of that, Improved Covering and Gyroscopic Sight.  Add later Marksman I and II.

 

His  Emil was FAST.  And he was rocking it hard. I am totally sold on this build after watch him work.



Stab74 #2 Posted 29 May 2018 - 04:44 PM

    Senior Airman

  • Member
  • 1141 battles
  • 17
  • [JG52] JG52
  • Member since:
    01-26-2012
I don't think I understand.  If going for a speed build wouldn't you want to lose the Improved Covering and use Aircraft Polish instead?

Caducus46 #3 Posted 29 May 2018 - 05:52 PM

    Master Sergeant

  • Member
  • 1380 battles
  • 38
  • [JG52] JG52
  • Member since:
    09-15-2015
Yes. I switched to Aircraft Polish once I got enough points for Aerodynamics Expert. I found Improved Covering useful until that time. I run the Sight, Engine Tuning, and Aircraft Polish for Equipment now. My pilot skills are Engine Guru 1 and 2, Aerodynamics Expert, and finally Marksman 1. I think that gives a total of +12% to Engine Power and +9% to Speed, with all the skills and equipment. Climb early and use altitude to pounce on opponents, while keeping the energy and speed to either come back around for another pass or create space, if needed.

GonerNL #4 Posted 30 May 2018 - 09:36 AM

    Command Chief Master Sergeant

  • Member
  • 800 battles
  • 575
  • Member since:
    01-17-2018

Sounds good ... lots of speed. But you lose maneuverability ?

I am now on the 109-G and still use lightweight airframe, control surface adj, engine tuning with aerodynamics, engine guru (mix of maneuverability and speed)


Flying on EU and NA server

SlappedbyRommel #5 Posted 30 May 2018 - 08:04 PM

    Senior Master Sergeant

  • Member
  • 2020 battles
  • 404
  • [JG52] JG52
  • Member since:
    01-13-2017

View PostCaducus46, on 29 May 2018 - 05:52 PM, said:

Yes. I switched to Aircraft Polish once I got enough points for Aerodynamics Expert. I found Improved Covering useful until that time. I run the Sight, Engine Tuning, and Aircraft Polish for Equipment now. My pilot skills are Engine Guru 1 and 2, Aerodynamics Expert, and finally Marksman 1. I think that gives a total of +12% to Engine Power and +9% to Speed, with all the skills and equipment. Climb early and use altitude to pounce on opponents, while keeping the energy and speed to either come back around for another pass or create space, if needed.

 

Damn you Cad you gave away your secrets.......lol

ComradeZ #6 Posted 01 June 2018 - 06:28 AM

    Senior Master Sergeant

  • Member
  • 3480 battles
  • 244
  • [FK] FK
  • Member since:
    04-13-2011
What tiers are we talking here? The most BF-109s I see are Air Defense aircraft.

FIight #7 Posted 05 June 2018 - 04:51 PM

    Command Chief Master Sergeant

  • Member
  • 4148 battles
  • 716
  • [HVAR] HVAR
  • Member since:
    09-11-2015
bf109's strength never lies in her speed; she is not necessarily faster than spitfire

CorvusCorvax #8 Posted 05 June 2018 - 06:00 PM

    Second Lieutenant

  • Member
  • 2004 battles
  • 1,903
  • [JG52] JG52
  • Member since:
    01-26-2012

View PostFIight, on 05 June 2018 - 04:51 PM, said:

bf109's strength never lies in her speed; she is not necessarily faster than spitfire

 

LOL, OK.

 

Try it in-game sometime.



Reitousair #9 Posted 05 June 2018 - 07:01 PM

    Command Chief Master Sergeant

  • Member
  • 7429 battles
  • 538
  • [HVAR] HVAR
  • Member since:
    08-10-2013

View PostCorvusCorvax, on 05 June 2018 - 11:00 AM, said:

 

LOL, OK.

 

Try it in-game sometime.

 

Hmm, it appears you don't know your aircraft stats too well, FIight is actually right there, it's only until the 109 G that the Bf-109 series is faster than the Spitfires. A Bf-109 (bar the G) is not necessarily faster than a Spitfire, in fact they aren't, what they do have however is acceleration and energy retention. You may think a Bf-109 E is faster than a Spitfire I, but it's not, it's just able to carry speed and gain speed far better than a Spitfire I. If a Bf-109 E and Spitfire I both started at 500KPH, the 109 E would get to 560 KPH faster than the Spit 1, but the Spit 1 will be able to go faster than the 109 E.

 

To show my point:

 

A lot of people forget that there's differences between top speed, acceleration, and energy retention. An Su-9 is one of the fastest tier 8 planes in the game, but it doesn't have the acceleration nor energy retention to get there. The Pancake is a bit average in speed at tier 8, and the acceleration isn't that great, but the energy retention is absolutely absurd allowing you to carry that energy far beyond almost every plane in the game. The Ki-94-II is a very slow tier 8 fighter, but the acceleration can carry it to top speed faster than anything else in tier 8.


I do fly Chinese aircraft a fair amount so... *ahem*

CHINA NUMBAH WAN

 

I even made a custom skin for my IL-10M!

 


CorvusCorvax #10 Posted 05 June 2018 - 07:37 PM

    Second Lieutenant

  • Member
  • 2004 battles
  • 1,903
  • [JG52] JG52
  • Member since:
    01-26-2012
Like I said - try it in-game.  Stats are cool, but game-play is where the rubber meets the road.

YagabodooN #11 Posted 06 June 2018 - 05:05 AM

    Master Sergeant

  • Member
  • 1775 battles
  • 59
  • Member since:
    10-12-2015

Guess what, a speed build is useful on every aircraft in the game, even most of the slowest ones. 

More speed/ energy generation = more targets to select, better movement to important objectives, better escape options and easier time closing distance to get most out of your guns. 

'slow' planes like the early Bf and the Japanese army line can still wreck people, because their alt cap means they can more effectively store up more energy to convert into speed, and therefore get an advantage. 

 



Caducus46 #12 Posted 06 June 2018 - 05:48 AM

    Master Sergeant

  • Member
  • 1380 battles
  • 38
  • [JG52] JG52
  • Member since:
    09-15-2015
Exactly. And the 109 E (as well as the other 109s) have strong engines that can climb. And once you're higher, you're able to be in a position to dive on planes. Not to mention, the German engines are already strong at getting back up to speed. With tuning and gurus it takes no telling at all.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users