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Perrigrino #361 Posted 30 August 2018 - 06:25 PM

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And here is a new game mode being introduce in WoWS , (which obviously means little concern over further splitting the existing player base, where there is PVE, PVP, Ranked, and Clan battles):

 

https://worldofwarsh...t/bulletin-079/

 

 



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can we please clarify "game mode". 

 

Game mode as in the 1.X version 

Game mode as in style of 2.X game-play  conquest vs elimination/pvp

 

if its "we cant go back or run 1.X at the same time" that makes sense. if its, we can't run two different 2.X game modes at the same time... my understanding was that 2.0 was to improve the game and allow for future development. We had two game modes early on, so you can understand my confusion on that statement.

 

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there are two modes being run concurrently during every event...  T1-T3 and T4 up

 

edit:  i'm just pointing this out as an example, but again, i personally prefer 2.x


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      blindfold. Thankyou, most sincerely, for your detailed response. Please do not underestimate my appreciation for your efforts in the slightest. Also please understand that I do Massively appreciate your time, efforts, research and advocacy on our behalf.

    However......Also please understand that the responses that were provided TO you are insufficient to say the least from my (and most likely very many others on this and other threads) and is neither desirable, believable, or acceptable. Yet another stupid hybrid version one-size-fits-all is clearly not going to work in this case. Tell the developers to stop dreaming about it. There will NOT be a huge amount of former or future players that will 'just come around' and think that some foolish dumbed-down-cartoon-version is going to make everyone think 'well gee...I guess this is as good as we can expect....might as well just all come'on back y'all and play the way it is.....Well gosh darn it.....I just guess it is never going to get any better than this, boys '.


 

I rather doubt it. (Huge non-insulting understatement/sarc).


 

   I also firmly believe that the developers that gave you the 'technically impossible' story are quite frankly NOT thinking outside the box enough on this. There are over EIGHT THOUSAND VIEWS on this thread and that is SOLELY from the NA accounts with basically about 25-30 contributors that in NO way could account for even a small percentage of that amount of views. The LEAST amount of players for 1.x. were on the NA server and just LOOK at views, effort, and contributions that have been put forth in an absurdly short three month period!! What if this thread or factions of it were started on the EU and RU server forums. Do you think there might be somewhat.....more....additional interest there?

   Does it sound like the developers are heading down the right track on this?......Does it sound that way to ANY substantial number of people here!!!??

Have any of the developers thought about cloud hosting, additional server resources financed by pay-only or prem account only, upgrading and moving the test server to production, additional resources, running as partitions (the engine is still the same guys.....I am not a dumb-fyock), how about node.js multi-threading, licensed server copies as WG subsidiaries or base-prem and on-demand multi contract site hosting, changing the gaming engine to the same as on WOT which uses massively less resources and therefore is far more efficient, or TWENTY-PLUS other combinations/ideas I do not know or have not even dreamed of considering (but a real pro at this would!!).

    Also, since everyone is there seems so endlessly adamant that no version of 1.x will ever come back even as an additional mode overlooks an extremely important point......Your Customers WANT It!!!!

     Their attitude sounds equivalent to a huge (but not the only) car manufacturer saying that all of our cars will be puke-green color and never anything else simply because we say so no matter what you dumb peons want....therefore learn to like it because we are TELLING you to!!      Seriously.....no one there would eat that from them or any other company......why do you think the players here would eat this kind of absurd dictate!!?? What kind of non-customer-responsive attitude do you call THAT!!??

  I have plenty more to say on this as well as further plans. I will post more later when I have time.

 


Edited by soshootmenow, 31 August 2018 - 04:48 AM.


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The bottom line is this. We were told that there was not going to be any changes made until they get the results from the beta testers, We said no , approximately 80% of us said no ! But they went ahead with the 2.0 anyway and shove it up our AAAASSSSSSESSSSS ... One thing that I want to make very clear, look at the success of world of warships ! They listen to their players ! World of warplanes did not ! They came up with a PlayStation type war thunder game that is the worst Aviation combat game I have ever played ! (((((( By the way I was one of the beta testers ! )))))) ...... This is not going away because there are some people that have invested large sums of money into the 1.9 game mode ... The distrust for world of warplanes is all over the Internet , such as Facebook, YouTube,((( PC gamer,))) also letters were wrote to them asking why they gave this game good reviews when 80% of the beta testers said no and all this flak is going on on YouTube and Facebook ,,, sounds like PC gamer also has some reckoning to do with us gamers is far as taking payouts ,, but then again fake news is fake news it's all over now ! So when I say this thing is not going away it is not going away ! 1.9 was the best aviation combat game I've ever played close to being realistic ! But now you little pimple face snobby nosed runny nose little boys cried and said the big bad top 20 clans are pounding the hell out of me and I don't like it .. Well now you got what you wanted a cheap shi***Y .. PlayStation game that cost about five dollars on steam !  Just because you didn't want to take the time join a clan and get trained ! (((((((The biggest piece of garbage I've ever seen 2.0 !))))))) ... Sorry for my punctuation but I don't give a sh***TT I want to make you nerdy boys passed off at me  ! !  Hope you like what you're paying for But then again you people don't have enough money to invest in a good game anyway ! like I said you can get the same game on steam for five dollars !!  Enjoy 2.0 morons ! Kiss Butts  !!! you got to have everything handed to you you pimple face snobby nosed yo-yos you can't work for it !! Developers once again 2.0 sucks  !!! ! And you better change it  Back ! Or at least add another game mode with the same flight characteristics I can deal with that ! Will be writing a letter to the CEO of wargaming.net Sincerely yours crybabies !

Edited by MAJ_Radmo, 31 August 2018 - 07:28 AM.


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View PostMAJ_Radmo, on 31 August 2018 - 02:26 AM, said:

The bottom line is this. We were told that there was not going to be any changes made until they get the results from the beta testers, We said no , approximately 80% of us said no ! But they went ahead with the 2.0 anyway and shove it up our AAAASSSSSSESSSSS ... One thing that I want to make very clear, look at the success of world of warships ! They listen to their players ! World of warplanes did not ! They came up with a PlayStation type war thunder game that is the worst Aviation combat game I have ever played ! (((((( By the way I was one of the beta testers ! )))))) ...... This is not going away because there are some people that have invested large sums of money into the 1.9 game mode ... The distrust for world of warplanes is all over the Internet , such as Facebook, YouTube,((( PC gamer,))) also letters were wrote to them asking why they gave this game good reviews when 80% of the beta testers said no and all this flak is going on on YouTube and Facebook ,,, sounds like PC gamer also has some reckoning to do with us gamers is far as taking payouts ,, but then again fake news is fake news it's all over now ! So when I say this thing is not going away it is not going away ! 1.9 was the best aviation combat game I've ever played close to being realistic ! But now you little pimple face snobby nosed runny nose little boys cried and said the big bad top 20 clans are pounding the hell out of me and I don't like it .. Well now you got what you wanted a cheap shi***Y .. PlayStation game that cost about five dollars on steam !  Just because you didn't want to take the time join a clan and get trained ! (((((((The biggest piece of garbage I've ever seen 2.0 !))))))) ... Sorry for my punctuation but I don't give a sh***TT I want to make you nerdy boys passed off at me  ! !  Hope you like what you're paying for But then again you people don't have enough money to invest in a good game anyway ! like I said you can get the same game on steam for five dollars !!  Enjoy 2.0 morons ! Kiss Butts  !!! you got to have everything handed to you you pimple face snobby nosed yo-yos you can't work for it !! Developers once again 2.0 sucks  !!! ! And you better change it  Back ! Or at least add another game mode with the same flight characteristics I can deal with that ! Will be writing a letter to the CEO of wargaming.net Sincerely yours crybabies !

 

Well, THAT was certainly helpful. Like I said, apparently many times, Ain't gonna happen.
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View PostSkyWolf__WM, on 31 August 2018 - 10:29 AM, said:

 

Well, THAT was certainly helpful.

 

I literally laughed out loud.

 

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View PostPerrigrino, on 30 August 2018 - 09:05 PM, said:

 

Thank you for the clarification Blindfold...

 

A). Sorry, but my knowledge of servers is lacking. I am confused on 1st item: you state, "technically impossible to run two game modes on same server" but then go on to say: "team is working on the issue and it is likely that such a possibility will appear". I gather from that, at the moment it is not possible, but could be?

 

I am terribly sorry, it seems I missed "at the moment" in my post. At the moment it is impossible, but the team is working on the possibility. So yes, you grasped the essence.

 

View PostNoreaga, on 30 August 2018 - 09:40 PM, said:

can we please clarify "game mode". 

 

Current game modes are Conquest, Attrition, Invasion. The next one to be released - Bomber Escort Mode.

 

View Posttrikke, on 31 August 2018 - 12:40 AM, said:

there are two modes being run concurrently during every event...  T1-T3 and T4 up

 

You cannot switch between the modes and they are tied closely to the aircraft tier. So you cannot choose tier 5 plane and play Conquest when Invasion runs. It is completely different mechanics. 

Thus. this is not 2 game modes running simultaneously but one game mode for low tiers running and one game mode for mid-high tiers running. 



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View PostMAJ_Radmo, on 31 August 2018 - 01:26 AM, said:

The bottom line is this. We were told that there was not going to be any changes made until they get the results from the beta testers, We said no , approximately 80% of us said no ! But they went ahead with the 2.0 anyway and shove it up our AAAASSSSSSESSSSS ... One thing that I want to make very clear, look at the success of world of warships ! They listen to their players ! World of warplanes did not ! They came up with a PlayStation type war thunder game that is the worst Aviation combat game I have ever played ! (((((( By the way I was one of the beta testers ! )))))) ...... This is not going away because there are some people that have invested large sums of money into the 1.9 game mode ... The distrust for world of warplanes is all over the Internet , such as Facebook, YouTube,((( PC gamer,))) also letters were wrote to them asking why they gave this game good reviews when 80% of the beta testers said no and all this flak is going on on YouTube and Facebook ,,, sounds like PC gamer also has some reckoning to do with us gamers is far as taking payouts ,, but then again fake news is fake news it's all over now ! So when I say this thing is not going away it is not going away ! 1.9 was the best aviation combat game I've ever played close to being realistic ! But now you little pimple face snobby nosed runny nose little boys cried and said the big bad top 20 clans are pounding the hell out of me and I don't like it .. Well now you got what you wanted a cheap shi***Y .. PlayStation game that cost about five dollars on steam !  Just because you didn't want to take the time join a clan and get trained ! (((((((The biggest piece of garbage I've ever seen 2.0 !))))))) ... Sorry for my punctuation but I don't give a sh***TT I want to make you nerdy boys passed off at me  ! !  Hope you like what you're paying for But then again you people don't have enough money to invest in a good game anyway ! like I said you can get the same game on steam for five dollars !!  Enjoy 2.0 morons ! Kiss Butts  !!! you got to have everything handed to you you pimple face snobby nosed yo-yos you can't work for it !! Developers once again 2.0 sucks  !!! ! And you better change it  Back ! Or at least add another game mode with the same flight characteristics I can deal with that ! Will be writing a letter to the CEO of wargaming.net Sincerely yours crybabies !

 

True....1.9 was the best aviation game and as close to being realistic......but in todays world.....ALL must get a trophy !!!!  Hence - 2.0

 


Edited by Texthor, 31 August 2018 - 03:47 PM.


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View PostTexthor, on 31 August 2018 - 09:26 AM, said:

 

True....1.9 was the best aviation game and as close to being realistic......but in todays world.....ALL must get a trophy !!!!

 

I'm probably going to get in trouble, Aces High, Rise of Flight, and Warbirds are more  realistic. Everybody does not get a Trophy. When I got sick, I became too stupid to play them. But they are NOT free to play. About 15 bucks per month as I recall.
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View PostblindfoId, on 31 August 2018 - 09:09 AM, said:

 

I am terribly sorry, it seems I missed "at the moment" in my post. At the moment it is impossible, but the team is working on the possibility. So yes, you grasped the essence.

just so you don't give the developers and planners any misinformation:

the 1.4-1.9 game model was enjoyable BECAUSE of the airplane's flight characteristics

yes... this!

the airplane's flight characteristics

you guys changed the way the planes fly

you changed the feel, the control and the basic perception of flight to the player

they sucked the fun out and made it sterile feeling

why!

that is the NUMBER ONE reason most players left the game,

you changed too much of what was good

but also as a group these things...

sucked the fun out of a very good game

the loss of good battle maps,

the loss of teamwork strategies,

the overly emphasis on "board Game" strategies/success,

the overly emphasis of Bot Power to skew the outcome of games

 

I got an idea...

shhh

put the fun back in

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if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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View PostMAJ_Radmo, on 31 August 2018 - 01:26 AM, said:

The bottom line is this. We were told that there was not going to be any changes made until they get the results from the beta testers, We said no , approximately 80% of us said no ! But they went ahead with the 2.0 anyway and shove it up our AAAASSSSSSESSSSS ... One thing that I want to make very clear, look at the success of world of warships ! They listen to their players ! World of warplanes did not ! They came up with a PlayStation type war thunder game that is the worst Aviation combat game I have ever played ! (((((( By the way I was one of the beta testers ! )))))) ...... This is not going away because there are some people that have invested large sums of money into the 1.9 game mode ... The distrust for world of warplanes is all over the Internet , such as Facebook, YouTube,((( PC gamer,))) also letters were wrote to them asking why they gave this game good reviews when 80% of the beta testers said no and all this flak is going on on YouTube and Facebook ,,, sounds like PC gamer also has some reckoning to do with us gamers is far as taking payouts ,, but then again fake news is fake news it's all over now ! So when I say this thing is not going away it is not going away ! 1.9 was the best aviation combat game I've ever played close to being realistic ! But now you little pimple face snobby nosed runny nose little boys cried and said the big bad top 20 clans are pounding the hell out of me and I don't like it .. Well now you got what you wanted a cheap shi***Y .. PlayStation game that cost about five dollars on steam !  Just because you didn't want to take the time join a clan and get trained ! (((((((The biggest piece of garbage I've ever seen 2.0 !))))))) ... Sorry for my punctuation but I don't give a sh***TT I want to make you nerdy boys passed off at me  ! !  Hope you like what you're paying for But then again you people don't have enough money to invest in a good game anyway ! like I said you can get the same game on steam for five dollars !!  Enjoy 2.0 morons ! Kiss Butts  !!! you got to have everything handed to you you pimple face snobby nosed yo-yos you can't work for it !! Developers once again 2.0 sucks  !!! ! And you better change it  Back ! Or at least add another game mode with the same flight characteristics I can deal with that ! Will be writing a letter to the CEO of wargaming.net Sincerely yours crybabies !

 

Maj_Radmo u nailed it! Game was fun before 2.0 this junk. Sad to see the way this game has gone but all things have to die sooner or later. C-ya gone fishing.

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View PostDennyFish311, on 01 September 2018 - 07:21 AM, said:

 

Maj_Radmo u nailed it! Game was fun before 2.0 this junk. Sad to see the way this game has gone but all things have to die sooner or later. C-ya gone fishing.

 

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View PostblindfoId, on 31 August 2018 - 10:09 AM, said:

You cannot switch between the modes and they are tied closely to the aircraft tier. So you cannot choose tier 5 plane and play Conquest when Invasion runs. It is completely different mechanics. 

Thus. this is not 2 game modes running simultaneously but one game mode for low tiers running and one game mode for mid-high tiers running. 

 

then we (again, the rest of the guys that want some form of 1.x, not me) would be pleased to see an event like T1-T4 running normal 2.0, and T5+ running a no cap, no respawn deathmatch

 

sorry guys, no return to 1.x flight models seems possible, but would this help?    both sides would get the same current flight models, so it still would be fair...  just not ideal flight models

 

and everyone gets to see, once and for all, if no-caps-deathmatch mode will bring back the vets... a win-win for everyone?

 

except for me and others like me, who need respawn to survive 


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View Posttrikke, on 01 September 2018 - 04:02 PM, said:

 

then we (again, the rest of the guys that want some form of 1.x, not me) would be pleased to see an event like T1-T4 running normal 2.0, and T5+ running a no cap, no respawn deathmatch

 

sorry guys, no return to 1.x flight models seems possible, but would this help?    both sides would get the same current flight models, so it still would be fair...  just not ideal flight models

 

and everyone gets to see, once and for all, if no-caps-deathmatch mode will bring back the vets... a win-win for everyone?

 

except for me and others like me, who need respawn to survive 

 

That's one of the big complaints about 2.x - the flight model.  It was arcade-like before, and the move to make it MORE arcade-like was a step too far.  Some of these folks want the flight models to go the other way - to less arcade-like.  I don't think there is any such thing as "ideal", because everyone has a different idea about what that looks like.

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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 01 September 2018 - 11:23 AM, said:

 

That's one of the big complaints about 2.x - the flight model.  It was arcade-like before, and the move to make it MORE arcade-like was a step too far.  Some of these folks want the flight models to go the other way - to less arcade-like.  I don't think there is any such thing as "ideal", because everyone has a different idea about what that looks like.

correct corvus

to v.1.* players the planes in v.2.0.*  just float around... then drop... then zoom

it's not consistent movement that the human mind equates with air travel

it just feels silly...

the movement in 2.0.* is like playing a knight in chess...

you have to get your mind around it's travel style

it's not intuitive to life on earth

I don't like the 2.0 wormholes

 


Edited by Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo, 02 September 2018 - 12:58 AM.

if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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View PostblindfoId, on 31 August 2018 - 02:09 PM, said:

 

Current game modes are Conquest, Attrition, Invasion. The next one to be released - Bomber Escort Mode.

 

 

Thank you for that bit of information.



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     After some consideration, I started some additional actions/avenues. Not saying what just yet as I am doing this in a few staged steps and I am not sure at what point it is prudent to stop right now. Still mulling this over some but I put in a request for someone on the team to do a couple of things and I want to talk to another person about the third.

Anyone who has their own ideas as to how best to proceed is welcome to post here.

    I am not done yet.



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Email sent today to Viktor Kislyi, the head of WG, today with the Subject Line: You Reportedly Said You Did Not Want to Make Another Mistake Like On WOT

 

 

 

 

 

Good Day,
 
           I was told you said you did not want to make another mistake like when the developers were not listening to the User Community on World of Tanks.
    If so, then it appears you have an opportunity here for World of Warplanes.
This is a link to my thread on the North American WoWP user forum.
 
 
   In case that does not come through, It is in the NA Forum, General GamePlay Discussion, Two Mode Game Suggestion.......(Again).
  Nineteen Pages of contributions by only a few of us. Nearly NINE THOUSAND views in just a few months (obviously not possible for just the few contributors so a lot more are very interested). It is a Hot Topic and has been on Page One since its inception. And that is just on the NA Forum which had the fewest WoWP players.
    We are getting stonewalled by the developers who, quite frankly, appear to be little more than obstinate at best, but in more real-world terms, childishly stubborn.
  (I will however sincerely compliment sonicpariah and especially blindfold for efforts on our behalf).
  Please review the thread in detail. I believe one of these proposals would prove to be a very workable solution for all parties concerned.
 
Thankyou for your time and consideration.
 
Sincerely
 
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View Postsoshootmenow, on 08 September 2018 - 04:34 PM, said:

Email sent today to Viktor Kislyi, the head of WG, today with the Subject Line: You Reportedly Said You Did Not Want to Make Another Mistake Like On WOT

 

 

 

 

 

Good Day,
 
           I was told you said you did not want to make another mistake like when the developers were not listening to the User Community on World of Tanks.
    If so, then it appears you have an opportunity here for World of Warplanes.
This is a link to my thread on the North American WoWP user forum.
 
 
   In case that does not come through, It is in the NA Forum, General GamePlay Discussion, Two Mode Game Suggestion.......(Again).
  Nineteen Pages of contributions by only a few of us. Nearly NINE THOUSAND views in just a few months (obviously not possible for just the few contributors so a lot more are very interested). It is a Hot Topic and has been on Page One since its inception. And that is just on the NA Forum which had the fewest WoWP players.
    We are getting stonewalled by the developers who, quite frankly, appear to be little more than obstinate at best, but in more real-world terms, childishly stubborn.
  (I will however sincerely compliment sonicpariah and especially blindfold for efforts on our behalf).
  Please review the thread in detail. I believe one of these proposals would prove to be a very workable solution for all parties concerned.
 
Thankyou for your time and consideration.
 
Sincerely
 
soshootmenow.

 

Good luck.

tbh, I'd be more interested in making m own game then investing anymore time in this one.


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