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CorvusCorvax #1 Posted 02 May 2018 - 02:22 PM

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At home, I have a very small gaming surface.  Artificially small, as it turns out.  Because I was using a regularly-sized mouse pad.  So, I bought this:

 

https://www.amazon.c...occat mouse pad

 

A gigantic surface in comparison.

 

I also had a Razer mouse that would randomly cause my aircraft to pitch up or down violently with no input on my end.  Unfortunately, Razer has a reputation for building a gaming mouse that has a lifespan measured in months.  So, I bought this:

 

https://www.amazon.c...s=corsair mouse

 

I was skeptical that the sniper button on the side would be useful.  I was wrong.  Moving the sniper key from being bound to the "F" key to that button on the mouse makes life a lot easier, and a big button right on the thumb is very nice, as it turns out.  Especially nice for use with aircraft with a mix of cannon and machine guns.  Like my newly-acquired Hurricane IID  Ummm, those 40mm cannon hit like a ton of bricks, and can just erase LFs, put a giant hurt on GAA and cripple HFs.  But first you have to actually put that 40mm lead on target!   And in a high-deflection situation, the sniper button is required to land those shells.  It also helps with aircraft like the Me-410 and the Do-335.  Anything where you want to use the range of the cannon to your advantage, the sniper mode is useful.  And quickly switching in and out of that mode allows for better situational awareness.

 

It is obvious this game was designed for keyboard and mouse, and even though I would prefer to use stick, rudder and throttle inputs, I have trained myself to use the mouse and keyboard (like for any FPS game title, ever) for WoWP.  Good equipment helps.  A large mousing surface to minimize time spent in lift-off (Quesnel, I'm looking at you) and a mouse that will hopefully survive my gaming more than the 8 months my previous mouse did.  And I'm not even hard on the mouse.  Keyboard, yes.  Mouse?  No.

 



Reitousair #2 Posted 02 May 2018 - 02:49 PM

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Equipment does matter, for sure.

 

Sadly I'm not good because I don't have a $5000 gaming chair :unsure:


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CorvusCorvax #3 Posted 02 May 2018 - 03:01 PM

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View PostReitousair, on 02 May 2018 - 02:49 PM, said:

Equipment does matter, for sure.

 

Sadly I'm not good because I don't have a $5000 gaming chair :unsure:

 

Yeah, that's really an issue.  Equipment does make a difference, but HOW MUCH of a difference?  And where is the line drawn?  The golfing industry is the absolute pinnacle of equipment over skill.  They come out with a new doo-dad ever six months, and golfers will spend thousands of dollars a year on new equipment in order to try and gain a few shots on their handicap.

 

Back when I was in college, I bought a set of clubs from a thrift store (because college students got to play at the local course for $3/round).  I used range balls to play on the course.

 

I got paired up with a professor who had the latest stuff, and I was outshooting him pretty badly (I'm not even close to good at the game), and he was incredulous.  He wanted to see what sort of equipment I was using, and I showed him - he was mad.  Sometimes it really is all about the skills of the user.  I was just better at the game than he was, despite his new equipment.  But what if I had been using *his* equipment?  What would my score have been like?  I imagine it would have been better.

 

There is another school of thought - your skill is a matter of what you are used to.  If you are comfortable with a particular tool, you can do well with that tool all the time, and changing to a more modern tool actually leads to a decrease in your performance.  



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Who was telling you that equipment didn't make a difference?  That is the dumbest things I have ever heard.  When I upgraded from a regular to a gaming mouse, it was 1000% better.  I even did a review on it.

 


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I_QQ_4_U #5 Posted 02 May 2018 - 03:35 PM

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Unfortunately I have a very limited space for a mouse pad which does at times cause problems but most of the time it's not an issue, I just have the sensitivity really high so I don't need to move it around a lot.

I also have a Razer Naga which I bought when they first came out in 2009 and it's always performed flawlessly, I've actually thought of buying a couple more just in case this one dies of old age since no other mouse offers the same versatility. The Naga is kind of overkill for this game but for other twitch games it is indispensable being able to perform most commands with my thumb and not having to move your fingers from the LMB/RMB and movement keys. I also had a Razer Tarantula which I think I bought in 2007 and just replaced a few months ago only because the D key was starting to fail. Again it performed flawlessly for 11 years, no other keyboard or mouse has ever lasted me even close to that long and I never buy cheap peripherals, the Logitech G5 I had before the Naga barely lasted a year and it was considered to be one of if not the best Gaming mouse available at the time.



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View PostI_QQ_4_U, on 02 May 2018 - 03:35 PM, said:

Unfortunately I have a very limited space for a mouse pad which does at times cause problems but most of the time it's not an issue, I just have the sensitivity really high so I don't need to move it around a lot.

I also have a Razer Naga which I bought when they first came out in 2009 and it's always performed flawlessly, I've actually thought of buying a couple more just in case this one dies of old age since no other mouse offers the same versatility. The Naga is kind of overkill for this game but for other twitch games it is indispensable being able to perform most commands with my thumb and not having to move your fingers from the LMB/RMB and movement keys. I also had a Razer Tarantula which I think I bought in 2007 and just replaced a few months ago only because the D key was starting to fail. Again it performed flawlessly for 11 years, no other keyboard or mouse has ever lasted me even close to that long and I never buy cheap peripherals, the Logitech G5 I had before the Naga barely lasted a year and it was considered to be one of if not the best Gaming mouse available at the time.

 

I think maybe the modern Razer mice do not have the quality control that the previous mice did, which is why they now have a reputation for fragility.

 

As far as the tool being important, here is some perspective:

 

https://fourdots.com...s-its-user-3391


Edited by CorvusCorvax, 02 May 2018 - 08:24 PM.


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I'm still using my trusty MX 500 mouse I bought I can't even remember when.  That cosair mouse looks interesting, might be time for an upgrade. 

CorvusCorvax #8 Posted 02 May 2018 - 07:56 PM

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View Postwscarter007, on 02 May 2018 - 06:36 PM, said:

I'm still using my trusty MX 500 mouse I bought I can't even remember when.  That cosair mouse looks interesting, might be time for an upgrade. 

 

Wait until I beat on it some.  I have had a poor track record with mice, and I don't bang or hammer them, I just use the heck out of them.  I sometimes play a WWII FPS called "Day of Defeat" (on Steam, if anyone is interested), and it is very mouse-intensive.  I find WoWP more about smooth movements with the mouse, and less "twitch", so I actually move the mouse less.  I also use the buttons less with WoWP.  On, then off.  Instead of "on-off-on-off, left click, right click, on-off".

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View PostMARS_REVENANT, on 02 May 2018 - 03:30 PM, said:

Who was telling you that equipment didn't make a difference? 

Reading the title of my post, and then my follow-up within the thread would be super-helpful in understanding my actual position on the issue.

 

Of course, that would lead you to understand, and not have an opportunity to pimp your pay-for-click stuff on YouTube, right?  LOL.



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View PostCorvusCorvax, on 02 May 2018 - 02:58 PM, said:

Reading the title of my post, and then my follow-up within the thread would be super-helpful in understanding my actual position on the issue.

 

Of course, that would lead you to understand, and not have an opportunity to pimp your pay-for-click stuff on YouTube, right?  LOL.

 

Sarcasm dood....iron those panties and pop a valium.  Besides, Marco’s been here a hell of a lot longer than these streaming Johnny come latelys.

 

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It may not make me play better, but I do prefer a heavier, hand filling, wired mouse and a huge/gaming mouse pad.

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Not with this game, but one thing that I learn later with a full size keyboard, that if you have a limited space for mouse and keyboard (ie on a keyboard tray) slightly angle the keyboard.  A lot of FPS pro gamers do that even when they are using a 10 keyless (no number pad) keyboard.  Come to find out it feels better to have my hands only shoulder width apart from each other instead of outside of my shoulders if I left the keyboard perfectly horizontal.

 

Also another thing, do large movements on your mouse with your arm and precise movements with wrist only.  This really will uses the full surface space of your new mouse pad.


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A gaming mouse with a thumb keypad is a big help. Mine has 12 buttons but I rarely need more than 6. Across a variety of games, it is a huge help to be able to hit the 1-6 keys without lifting your left hand from the keyboard

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My setup is a $4 mouse, a $5 keyboard a second hand computer desk and a cheap plastic chair... :p no mousepad.

 

Maaaybe I shoulda spent all that money I used on premiums to upgrade my crapXD I'm too comfortable with my setup though. Adapting to new stuff is stressful and I'm already raging at my flightmates in chat for no good reason already


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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 03 May 2018 - 01:06 AM, said:

 

 

 Adapting to new stuff is stressful and I'm already raging at my flightmates in chat for no good reason already

 

LOL, You and me both.

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Yep, good equipment is important ... :honoring:

 


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