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Soylent_Red_Isnt_People #1 Posted 03 April 2018 - 07:04 AM

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nvm then - I get it, be perfect or GTFO; and if you see any of us choosing to maximize our chances of winning by forming flights or whatnot to curbstomp solo players and/or do tasks that isn't the same thing at all.

 

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FluffyPabu #2 Posted 03 April 2018 - 10:21 AM

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So.... you rigged mission just like people did in World of Tanks for T-22. Bravo! FYI, some people here completed the mission the hard way.

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View Postpoisonousblood, on 03 April 2018 - 10:21 AM, said:

So.... you rigged mission just like people did in World of Tanks for T-22. Bravo! FYI, some people here completed the mission the hard way.

 

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General_Lee_Miserable #4 Posted 03 April 2018 - 12:07 PM

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View Postpoisonousblood, on 03 April 2018 - 10:21 AM, said:

So.... you rigged mission just like people did in World of Tanks for T-22. Bravo! FYI, some people here completed the mission the hard way.

 

Oh quit it. Having some people help him complete a mission is not in the same league as the stuff people pulled off to get the T-22. I've coordinated with people in prior marathons to get a mission or 2 done. That falls in the category of good sportsmanship. 

FluffyPabu #5 Posted 03 April 2018 - 12:42 PM

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View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on 03 April 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

 

Oh quit it. Having some people help him complete a mission is not in the same league as the stuff people pulled off to get the T-22. I've coordinated with people in prior marathons to get a mission or 2 done. That falls in the category of good sportsmanship. 

 

It means all the same to me. Both parties (here and the clan members who rigged T-22 missions) are trying to help each other to unlock a grand prize. You can either call it rigged or good sportsmanship. And you call it the latter, then T-22 was earned absolutely fair and square.



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Agreements to farm are nothing new...  It goes against the spirit of the battle IMO.  Generally I tell my own team what I am doing, so maybe they save a kill for me or something like that, but I don't expect to receive or ask the enemy for quarter.  I also don't go out of my way to destroy live players if it isn't necessary for the win or for the completion of my mission.

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View Postpoisonousblood, on 03 April 2018 - 12:42 PM, said:

 

It means all the same to me. Both parties (here and the clan members who rigged T-22 missions) are trying to help each other to unlock a grand prize. You can either call it rigged or good sportsmanship. And you call it the latter, then T-22 was earned absolutely fair and square.

 

There is a BIG difference between rigging EVERY mission for a Tier 10 OP Russian medium tank and getting someone to help you with 1 or 2 missions for a tier 8 or lower vehicle. What clans did to get the T-22 was utterly disgusting. I am pretty adamant about playing these games honorably, but a couple of missions isn't even a speck on the radar and nothing even I give thought to. 

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In reality, its okay to steal batteries if you need them for your TV remote.  It is not okay to steal a whole new TV.

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View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on 03 April 2018 - 08:07 AM, said:

 

 I've coordinated with people in prior marathons to get a mission or 2 done.

 

View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on 03 April 2018 - 10:20 AM, said:

 

 I am pretty adamant about playing these games honorably

 

Hypocrite much?

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View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on 03 April 2018 - 12:07 PM, said:

 

Oh quit it. Having some people help him complete a mission is not in the same league as the stuff people pulled off to get the T-22. I've coordinated with people in prior marathons to get a mission or 2 done. That falls in the category of good sportsmanship.

 

I disagree sir.

 

Being a WoT player primarily we see this all the time, and it is gaming the game (very much un-sportsman like).


 

An earned award is just that.

And a carried or given award is empty.

The fact that you get goods for completing a mission you did not earn is not something I'd be proud of, but we all have different ethics.


 

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View PostMARS_REVENANT, on 03 April 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:

In reality, its okay to steal batteries if you need them for your TV remote.  It is not okay to steal a whole new TV.

 

No. It. Is. Not.

Stealing is stealing.


 

I have a feeling you are trolling me.


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MARS_REVENANT #12 Posted 03 April 2018 - 02:43 PM

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View PostMacDaddyMatty, on 03 April 2018 - 09:37 AM, said:

 

I disagree sir.

 

Being a WoT player primarily we see this all the time, and it is gaming the game (very much un-sportsman like).


 

An earned award is just that.

And a carried or given award is empty.

The fact that you get goods for completing a mission you did not earn is not something I'd be proud of, but we all have different ethics.


 

YMMV

 

Yep.

 

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No. It. Is. Not.

 

That's right, I was using facetiousness 


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General_Lee_Miserable #13 Posted 03 April 2018 - 02:43 PM

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View PostPerco_lator, on 03 April 2018 - 02:31 PM, said:

 

 

Hypocrite much?

 

Not at all and I explained my position. Now lets discuss how many accounts you'll get banned on this forum when all is said and done... 

 

One thing I didn't even mention is that these missions have always been complete-able using tokens bought for gold and/or cash. I'd have a tougher stance if the only avenue you had was to complete the missions in game. But, anyone can just buy the tokens. So, the competitive aspect goes out the window and thus I don't think twice about helping someone on a tough mission and saving them a few bucks or saving myself a few bucks or an hour of my time by getting help from someone. I think I only ever did it on 2 missions way back for the I-180-3.  

 

The case with the T-22 was purely competitive, as you couldn't just buy your way into the tank. So, that is something I do look upon differently and I personally would never have thought about "rigging" in that case. 



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View PostMARS_REVENANT, on 03 April 2018 - 02:43 PM, said:

 

Yep.

 

Lets discuss your ethics. You have always not thought twice about using any and all tactics to inflate your stats and win rate.  Low tier seal clubbing, flights, etc. I think if we compare ethics, I'm going to come out on top by far. You've probably been one of the least ethical players in the game over it's history and the fact that you are a "community ace" is an embarrassment to the game, because of said history. Not only your questionable in game ethics but also your shenanigans behind the scenes with clans and what not. You don't want to go there. 

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Nancy_Drew_The_Steelman_The_World_Needs_A_Hero_General_Lee_Miserable_Hypocrite aren't you about due for a name change?

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View PostPerco_lator, on 03 April 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

Nancy_Drew_The_Steelman_The_World_Needs_A_Hero_General_Lee_Miserable_Hypocrite aren't you about due for a name change?

 

Um.. I don't hide who I am. I like to switch things up every now and then. Still calling me Nancy, huh? Well, beats being infamous for being a forum troll. Do we have to discuss real life successes again? Yeah, you don't want to go there. Always easy to spot the folks with immense chips on their shoulders. Sorry you have that. I don't. 

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View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on 03 April 2018 - 09:46 AM, said:

 

Lets discuss your ethics. You have always not thought twice about using any and all tactics to inflate your stats and win rate.  Low tier seal clubbing, flights, etc. I think if we compare ethics, I'm going to come out on top by far. You've probably been one of the least ethical players in the game over it's history and the fact that you are a "community ace" is an embarrassment to the game, because of said history. Not only your questionable in game ethics but also your shenanigans behind the scenes with clans and what not. You don't want to go there. 

 

I think your cheese done slid off your cracker.

 

Making up history doesn't make it true.  Got any facts to back up those cwazy statements?  Probably about 1% of my battles are tier 3 and below, That makes me a Seal Clubber? 1% of my battles inflates my Win Rate? 

 

I'd like to see you prove what you actually said.


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View PostGeneral_Lee_Miserable, on 03 April 2018 - 10:52 AM, said:

 

 Do we have to discuss real life successes again? Yeah, you don't want to go there. 

 


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View PostMARS_REVENANT, on 03 April 2018 - 02:56 PM, said:

 

I think your cheese done slid off your cracker.

 

Making up history doesn't make it true.  Got any facts to back up those cwazy statements?  Probably about 1% of my battles are tier 4 and below, That makes me a Seal Clubber? 1% of my battles inflates my Win Rate? 

 

I'd like to see you prove what you actually said.

 

Looking at your 1.9 stats, almost 500 battles in a FW57 alone? That's only the tip of the iceberg. I'm not going to waste my time going over EVERY single plane but you have quite a few T5 and lower planes in 1.9 with hundreds of battles. In 2.0, your Bristol 146 is still your most played fighter. Lets cut the bull, ok? 

 

As for your antics, yeah, plenty of folks have given me a few laughs with stories of what you've done in clans pre 2.0. You are NO angel, my friend. 



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Oh, very intelligent. lol  I really feel bad for you. 




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