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Longsite #1 Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:38 AM

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Hey GhostPrime and all that enjoy this game.  I'm writing this for all to see and ask WG what is the final objective. I know U make and promote this game to make money, and we who come to your site are there to enjoy their time playing the game that u created...   But I feel U stack the odd against all the humans that play the game.


This is why I feel that way, first: in your new operation the bots fights like they are in 4 man flight, they target certain humans and they all jump on that individual like he's cover in money....  This would not be so bad if the bots cover our aZZ's and fought like they are our wingman but they don't. They just fly away and leave U fighting 3, 4 or 5 of the enemy.  And it hard to call for help because most of the time chat is down, and its a pain trying to call or talk to another human while U got bots all over your aircraft, plus the chat is in a place that hard to read while flying, forget that just fix the chat....  every time I use chat to type to another individual the damn game crashes ...


WG U have made Clan's in the game, then bring back 3 man flight, hell make it 4 man flight and give us the opportunity that U give the bots. Right now if u fly above tier 6 it is only one, or two humans on each side. The game has no balances, I find myself in so many battle with only one human on the other side and it turn out it a gaa and I'm in a light fighter.  So I find myself fighting bots the whole battle, u call that balance?


U have programmer that program bots, so just make a few bot clan and let us take the battle to them in 4 man flights. Hell we are already fighting bots most of the time in higher tier's so let the clans loose on those fools...  I bet if U brought back 3 man flight in tier 6 and higher, and made a bot clan against them,  U would have a lot more people flying in those tiers. U dropped 3 man clans because they were over powering, so let us fight bot clan, we are fighting bots most of the time anyway. This will get more people into the game, we like flying with our friends and killing bots. When we get enough humans then program the MM to get clans against clans.


GhostPrime U know that this game has problem, I still get ghosting sometime after being killed and re-spawning. (finding myself seeing someone's aircraft flying as my aircraft just flies off somewhere with out me.... for all who have this problem to fix this is to hit the ESC key, chose return to battle and hit the enter key twice..)  I like the new operation but we have lives, kids, wives, jobs, who in the hell has that much time to do all those missions, WTH...  are U guys just freek-n kidding me. 


There are 15 mission, in two stages for each mission for two different aircraft. That's 60 missions Plus a few of those mission are unreal, for a ok player like me it would take a miracle, U make your company look bad for making the bar so high, if U just want to get paid just put it on sale, make it a premium or add it to a line up and we grind for it.  But to make it a prize at the end of the rainbow, that for some can never be reach is sad.....  Also fix this problem U have with not giving enough point if U kill the enemy outside a battle area. Every air war was won because the skies were clear of the enemy. If someone kill the enemy he/she should get the same amount of credit or points, I understand the strategic depth of taking an objective but as hard as It is to kill some of your bots we should get the same credit.


I'll stop here, I could go on about a few other things but if U don't hear me here U will never hear any of Us.  We play the game because we enjoy it, but we like it balance, working and the ability to share our connection with our friend.  WG think about bringing back 3 or adding 4 man flights, fixed the small problems, (ghosting, chat, MM balance, lost credit or medals) and u have a few hundred players in clan's, give them the honor to fly as a team like the bots....   Ghostprime take care and all others have fun......  

 

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cobra_marksman #2 Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:38 PM

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I'll stop here, I could go on about a few other things but if U don't hear me here U will never hear any of Us.  We play the game because we enjoy it, but we like it balance, working and the ability to share our connection with our friend.​ ":izmena:Nobody Home...:facepalm:....or their programmers don't understand English.:bajan:

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jack_wdw #3 Posted 07 March 2018 - 03:55 PM

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3 man flights really break the game.

But i would also want to see a mode, with historic references to the airplanes concerning speed, altitude and armament.
No respawns, no capture the flag, just deathmatch and call it super advanced mode.

mnbv_fockewulfe #4 Posted 07 March 2018 - 04:26 PM

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View Postjack_wdw, on 07 March 2018 - 03:55 PM, said:

3 man flights really break the game.

But i would also want to see a mode, with historic references to the airplanes concerning speed, altitude and armament.
No respawns, no capture the flag, just deathmatch and call it super advanced mode.

 

I asked about this. Apparently, it's technically impossible.

IMHO, the 2.0 upgrade would've been better served moving the game to a better game engine.


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jack_wdw #5 Posted 07 March 2018 - 04:53 PM

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View Postmnbv_fockewulfe, on 07 March 2018 - 04:26 PM, said:

 

I asked about this. Apparently, it's technically impossible.

IMHO, the 2.0 upgrade would've been better served moving the game to a better game engine

 

What is technically impossible? Everything in my post or some parts of it?

Man, i've come to a point that i would pay willingly 150$/year to play v1.9

GhostPrime #6 Posted 07 March 2018 - 05:51 PM

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Thank you for expressing your thoughts and opinions.  The point of the game is to have fun. The missions are designed to be both difficult and rewarding, but obtainable. The planes may be on sale in the future, but there are no current plans for any sales on them.

 

3 player flights are not something thats totally out of the question either. It has been stated that it will be considered if the conditions are right for the return of three player flights



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View Postjack_wdw, on 07 March 2018 - 11:53 AM, said:

What is technically impossible? Everything in my post or some parts of it?

Man, i've come to a point that i would pay willingly 150$/year to play v1.9

 

Basically the game doesn't work like it used to, so to bring 1.x back would mean they'd have to redesign the game again, like they did for 2.0, plus any improvements they did along the way in terms of performance and whatnot


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cobra_marksman #8 Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:16 PM

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View PostGhostPrime, on 07 March 2018 - 12:51 PM, said:

Thank you for expressing your thoughts and opinions.  The point of the game is to have fun. The missions are designed to be both difficult and rewarding, but obtainable. The planes may be on sale in the future, but there are no current plans for any sales on them.

 

3 player flights are not something thats totally out of the question either. It has been stated that it will be considered if the conditions are right for the return of three player flights

Let me ask you a question  The point of the game is to have fun. The missions are designed to be both difficult and rewarding, but obtainable " ​  I call this mission a Weekly mission. " Rage of the Titians ":playing:  - 4 Tokens, - Must be top 3 ( mastery ), & you must win - 5 times  X  3 tiers..... Now doing the math at a 50% win ratio,  will  =  30 battles.  ( if we score on top 3 ).  So lets be realistic, and add another 5 missions due to coming in 4th. place.  That's puts us at a total of 35 missions, for 4 Tokens:ohmy:. >>>>>> So I ask you again : " The point of the game is to have fun  & to be Rewarding " ....?:izmena:     Most of the players here ....... >>>> Will Disagree & might ask you to fly a few of those missions, before telling us that they are Fun:facepalm:  &  Enjoyable.:coin:

 


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Longsite #9 Posted 07 March 2018 - 06:18 PM

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Hello to all,
Ghostprime, thanks for the reply/respond, I understand your words about missions are designed to be both difficult and rewarding and obtainable but could U please do me a favor and tell me and very one here, that when the event ends U post how many individual in the NA community obtain those aircraft by just doing just the mission alone, not buying them or using certificates, just completing the mission.


Also please talk to your DEV about 3 and 4 man flights in higher tiers (6-10) against just bots, we are fighting bots 80 to 90% of the time in those tiers anyway.  I believe every clan would put out the call to its members and u would have a heap of individual in this game in no time....  Well, thanks again GP, hope to see u in the skies and guys if u see GP in the game give him his props and then fill him full of holes....  lol

 


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It is important that voices and opinions get heard, and the forums is the place to share, vent and give ideas. I'm willing to have some faith and wait and see how this game goes. I've made some new friends, (and enemies), met some really great characters, and have had fun. So the experience is not a loss, even if the game does not develop or improve. The community needs to stay active and involved, because the steady pressure is what moves mountains.

 

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View Postjack_wdw, on 07 March 2018 - 10:55 AM, said:

3 man flights really break the game.

 

it might not... if 3 man flights were automatically downtiered from all other pilots in that battle 

 

even though downtiering never stops great pilots, it could get tiring after a while knowing in advance that you will be downtiered in every battle 

 

or even double downtiered?   

 

three tier 6s commed together in a tier 8 battle could still be competitive, if the opposing red bots' ferocity get tuned down one notch, and WG can certainly do that


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View Postjack_wdw, on 07 March 2018 - 04:53 PM, said:

What is technically impossible? Everything in my post or some parts of it?

Man, i've come to a point that i would pay willingly 150$/year to play v1.9

 

having two physics models.

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One last thing, in the new event Operation Westwall could the dev limit the number of higher tier aircraft in a battle with a lower tier aircraft.  I can not tell U how many time I have been in a tier 8 aircraft with one other human on my side and all the other aircraft flown by bots are in tier 9, wth. 
 
And it not just me, ask everyone, who fly above tier 6, humans find themself the only aircraft in lower tiers while bots are in higher tiers, and 10 tier 8 bots and humans flying the only 2 tier 7 bots is Bull.  If a higher tier is flying with lower tiers limits the higher tier to the max of 4 aircraft in that tier... Just my 2 cent...

Good luck to all, later....


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View PostLongsite, on 07 March 2018 - 01:47 PM, said:

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One last thing, in the new event Operation Westwall could the dev limit the number of higher tier aircraft in a battle with a lower tier aircraft.  I can not tell U how many time I have been in a tier 8 aircraft with one other human on my side and all the other aircraft flown by bots are in tier 9, wth. 
 
And it not just me, ask everyone, who fly above tier 6, humans find themself the only aircraft in lower tiers while bots are in higher tiers, and 10 tier 8 bots and humans flying the only 2 tier 7 bots is Bull.  If a higher tier is flying with lower tiers limits the higher tier to the max of 4 aircraft in that tier... Just my 2 cent...

Good luck to all, later....

 

Sadly that's a drawback of the current population limitations. When the matchmaker can't find people to match properly, it'll just throw whatever it realistically can. Since tier 7 can fight with tier 8, it can end up with players on tier 8 vs players on tier 7 and the rest filled with bots. This is especially troublesome when the matchmaker has a high-tier flight that it can't put anywhere since there are not enough players it can match them with, which can often end up in the infamous 2v1 scenario which I've seen personally


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Being new to the game I can’t say, “the game was so much better”, but I can say that I enjoy getting on this game a flying with friends in aircraft I dreamed about as a kid.  The game is not bad by any means, and is actually my favorite out of the world of..... company, but I agree about the bots and the unfair MM.  I know this is a double tap, but the bots being higher tiers above isn’t terrible, but I’ve been in games where my team of bots doesn’t do anything strategic.  So this is where I think friendly bots can improve. Possibly giving the bots a visual sight addition so they can help or hunt enemy aircraft more effectively.  Or have it so that if the player announces where they are going, what they are attacking, or defending; them the bots within a close proximity (1km-2km) would also go for that target, Defense, support.  This could also be utilized with the calling of a poison when you tab and click a location on the map.  

Strategically I think this would be more beneficial and appreciated among players.  



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I didn't join the game until after 2.0.  I do not know how it was before, but I must say I enjoy the people who play it now.

 

And the .99 spitfire was a nice touch.

 

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WoWShips has "flights" of 3 or more in Co-op battles.

 

Perhaps WG should explore idea of assigning a BOT wingman to unbalanced battles where there is Flight v 1 human.

 

 



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View PostGhostPrime, on 07 March 2018 - 09:51 AM, said:

Thank you for expressing your thoughts and opinions.  The point of the game is to have fun. The missions are designed to be both difficult and rewarding, but obtainable. The planes may be on sale in the future, but there are no current plans for any sales on them.

 

3 player flights are not something thats totally out of the question either. It has been stated that it will be considered if the conditions are right for the return of three player flights

just change the game to PvE so it doesnt matter, and instead make enemy bot flights mirror and work together. 


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View PostLongsite, on 07 March 2018 - 06:47 PM, said:


One last thing, in the new event Operation Westwall could the dev limit the number of higher tier aircraft in a battle with a lower tier aircraft.  I can not tell U how many time I have been in a tier 8 aircraft with one other human on my side and all the other aircraft flown by bots are in tier 9, wth. 
 
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This is FAR WORSE  when you are in the attacking team in a GGAA cause the targets get too tough .

 


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View PostPerrigrino, on 07 March 2018 - 11:44 PM, said:

WoWShips has "flights" of 3 or more in Co-op battles.

Perhaps WG should explore idea of assigning a BOT wingman to unbalanced battles where there is Flight v 1 human.

There is also the Operation scenario concept that might work over here, with conquest as regular mode and Invasion/Attrition/something else in weekly rotation as an optional choice for part of a month.

If ''super-flights'' of humans were able to choose whether to be attackers or defenders, that might be more appealing than random because reasons.

 

Plus, in historical scenarios with limited if not fixed lineups there wouldn't (might not*) be the mish-mash of plane types that so favor whichever side gets the most perfect for the meta aircraft and outright screws the opposition.

I get the feeling though this is all stuff asked about before with the older version(s).

 

 

* With the caveat that a historical match couldn't function though without some major tweaks; how often, if ever, would a team of 'Spits lose versus Bf109s or Zeros lose versus F4 line aircraft.


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