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Poll: Poll: 2.0.4 Features (80 members have cast votes)

How do you like the balance changes introduced in this update?

  1. These changes are great and needed! (14 votes [17.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.50%

  2. These changes are OK but do not affect my experience (19 votes [23.75%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.75%

  3. I don't like these changes (28 votes [35.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 35.00%

  4. Can't really tell (19 votes [23.75%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.75%

Do you like the new game locations?

  1. The new game locations are awesome! (26 votes [32.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 32.50%

  2. The new game locations are OK (37 votes [46.25%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 46.25%

  3. I don't like the new game locations (17 votes [21.25%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 21.25%

Do you like the new improved Bot behavior?

  1. These changes are good! They perform better! (11 votes [13.75%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.75%

  2. They seemed improved, but still could use some work (21 votes [26.25%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 26.25%

  3. I can't tell any difference from before (24 votes [30.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

  4. They have gotten worse. (24 votes [30.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 30.00%

Do you like the "Invasion" game mode?

  1. It is a great mode and really fun to play! (12 votes [15.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 15.00%

  2. It is OK, I still prefer Conquest Mode and/or the other mode. (20 votes [25.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.00%

  3. I do not like this game mode. (48 votes [60.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 60.00%

Do you like the "Attrition" game mode?

  1. It is a great mode and really fun to play! (22 votes [27.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.50%

  2. It is OK, I still prefer Conquest Mode and/or the other mode. (22 votes [27.50%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.50%

  3. I do not like this game mode. (36 votes [45.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 45.00%

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Raizei #1 Posted 28 February 2018 - 10:10 PM

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Hello Pilots,

 

Update 2.0.4 is now live with new features to explore! Please share your feedback here!

 

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Colddawg #2 Posted 28 February 2018 - 11:53 PM

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The XF-90 is still a "do not play" plane.  It's too underpowered, too inaccurate, and it doesn't have enough maneuverability.

 

So it can go 50kph faster than the next fastest plane, so what?  The plane is unplayable


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FIight #3 Posted 01 March 2018 - 01:39 AM

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View PostColddawg, on 28 February 2018 - 06:53 PM, said:

The XF-90 is still a "do not play" plane.  It's too underpowered, too inaccurate, and it doesn't have enough maneuverability.

 

So it can go 50kph faster than the next fastest plane, so what?  The plane is unplayable

 

unless they change climb rate to historical, it's completely not enjoyable to play jets that climbs fast.

The highest climb rate for single-engine propeller does not exceed 25m/s, and even Hornet has only

25.4m/s climb rate. Having some prop planes on your tail that climbs fast and is more maneuverable than

you is simply unfair, plz nerf their climb rate to death!



mnbv_fockewulfe #4 Posted 01 March 2018 - 03:38 AM

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View PostFIight, on 01 March 2018 - 01:39 AM, said:

 

unless they change climb rate to historical, it's completely not enjoyable to play jets that climbs fast.

The highest climb rate for single-engine propeller does not exceed 25m/s, and even Hornet has only

25.4m/s climb rate. Having some prop planes on your tail that climbs fast and is more maneuverable than

you is simply unfair, plz nerf their climb rate to death!

 

25m/s nothin'.

It's at least twice that for prop fighters.


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LMG #5 Posted 01 March 2018 - 04:47 AM

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So after playing around for a bit, Bots seem to behave a lot more erratically. There still seems to be a general "priority" on the different types of aircraft, but the rules don't seem consistent enough to predict where they'll go. I had two matches on a map with two Airbases, two Command Centers and one central garrison. On the first map, the enemy's bot GAAs went to the central Garrison while their bot Bombers struggled on their own at the Command Center. They never captured the sector. On the second game, my team spawned at the other side of the map. This time, our bot Bombers went to capture the Airbase while our bot GAA went for the Command Center. Considering both bot Bombers and GAAs are still incapable of properly using their ordnance, having them spread out erratically like this is really killing their performance even more, if that's even possible.

 

On a more positive note, bot fighters seem a bit more interested in capturing Garrisons, which could help aleviate some issues found at lower tiers with maps with multiple garrisons and one central airfield (at least if they were capable of capturing it). They also seem to properly attack GAAs without simply getting distracted by the first hostile fighter in sight, though they will break off when they come under fire. By the way, something important. Bots now use Airfields to spawn, but when they do sometimes they'll get stuck in there, possibly thinking they are an Air Defense Aircraft, and fly in circles. If this is a bug, it really needs to be patched as soon as possible :ohmy:


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Soylent_Red_Isnt_People #6 Posted 01 March 2018 - 07:15 AM

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Had an awful lot of games, around seven or so, that ended very quickly with one side gaining complete superiority; I don't recall seeing that many superiority matches over the past month.

 

As for the matchmaker, and how it allots plane models by type to each team lineup, still pretty much crap; which kind of defeats whatever changes got made to the AI behavior.


Edited by Soylent_Red_Isnt_People, 01 March 2018 - 07:41 AM.

"If they don't chase you after a mile, they don't chase ya.... Maybe it's two miles...."   ---   "You wanna play it soft, we'll play it soft. You wanna play it hard, let's play it hard."

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ArrowZ_ #7 Posted 01 March 2018 - 07:18 AM

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Lol... this poll is hysterical. The new game modes aren't even open yet people still voted :teethhappy:

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Zergling #8 Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:12 AM

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The game needs FAR more balance changes than the small number in this patch. Didn't the Devs talk about a big balance overhaul coming in a few months... a few months ago? Where are those balance changes?

 

Also, the Do 335 looks to be terrible, thanks to awful firepower.



Bamablitz #9 Posted 01 March 2018 - 11:53 AM

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Why does it always seem that the bots on my team are inferior to the enemy bots? How do you intercept Human Bombers with a heavy when they fly higher, Have longer reaching BOT guns and they fly faster? If the bombers were that great during WWII then they would never had needed an escort! Maybe I am missing something but this has been my evaluation so far.

 

Game play has gotten so much worse since this update! I am about ready to hang it up. I love this game but seems to be unfair to skilled players.



SpiritFoxMY #10 Posted 01 March 2018 - 12:45 PM

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View PostBamablitz, on 01 March 2018 - 11:53 AM, said:

Why does it always seem that the bots on my team are inferior to the enemy bots? How do you intercept Human Bombers with a heavy when they fly higher, Have longer reaching BOT guns and they fly faster? If the bombers were that great during WWII then they would never had needed an escort! Maybe I am missing something but this has been my evaluation so far.

 

Game play has gotten so much worse since this update! I am about ready to hang it up. I love this game but seems to be unfair to skilled players.

 

Bomber intercept isn't an issue I've faced in anything other than the mid-to-low altitude fliers, and even the mid-altitude airplanes can hunt bombers if flown correctly. As I've said in another thread, try stalking them from about 800m below (which is beyond the range of even the most skill & equip-boosted defensive fire) and just boost straight up into their belly. Use vertical yo-yos to shoot them up out of their defensive fields of fire. Most heavies have enough firepower to shred a bomber in a single boost and at the least you force bombers to take evasive action. 


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trikke #11 Posted 01 March 2018 - 01:16 PM

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View PostArrowZ_, on 01 March 2018 - 02:18 AM, said:

Lol... this poll is hysterical. The new game modes aren't even open yet people still voted :teethhappy:

 

i voted twice!     
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trikke #12 Posted 01 March 2018 - 01:19 PM

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View PostBamablitz, on 01 March 2018 - 06:53 AM, said:

I love this game but seems to be unfair to skilled players.

 

and here i was thinking that the game was unfair to unskilled players...   and to unskilled bots, but you never hear them complaining

 

much


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NorthernPorter #13 Posted 01 March 2018 - 02:31 PM

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Still a bit early to answer the poll, I'll come back to do it. But I had a good time last night flying around. I think the bots were a bit better than before in that they weren't swarming on 1 target but they still feel like they are little more than cannon fodder. Which I'm fine with, win or lose, I'm still blowing spit up.

 

I like that kill ticker that was added along the side of the window, that's very helpful.

I'm really happy WG brought back the free look camera zoom. Felt like it was a shame I couldn't better admire the airplane models other than in the hanger.

Haven't yet played on a night/evening map or any of the new maps but I'm looking forward to them. To see how or if it changed much from pre 2.0. I remember both lighthouse and winter war were maps then too.

 

The new modes are intriguing and I'm eager to play them out. I hope we will still be able to switch modes from Invasion/Attrition back to Conquest during this event if we want to.

Would have like to see more camo/historical paint skins rather than the national skins.

 



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View PostArrowZ_, on 01 March 2018 - 07:18 AM, said:

Lol... this poll is hysterical. The new game modes aren't even open yet people still voted :teethhappy:

 

I wondered about that myself...

egikov #15 Posted 01 March 2018 - 05:15 PM

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The best feature of this update is fixed chat. Don't know for how long, I hope it didn't break again.

The worst feature of this update is that all settings (Graphics and Controls) was reset.

I also don't like night maps. Because it's harder to see. We don't have night fighters anyway. We also don't have night vision.

 

Don't know about game new game modes yet. Invasion looks good if on invading team, because other team can't attack ground targets and my Thunderbolts will lose some usability. Attrition looks like regular mode mostly.



Cenotaph #16 Posted 01 March 2018 - 07:28 PM

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Is it just me, or does AA seem a little less unforgiving in this patch?
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Brothanoobseed #17 Posted 01 March 2018 - 08:01 PM

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1st time in months I could log in and the game sucks more than ever

Not like this thread will result in any player favorable changes cause WG only listens to themselves

 

 



ken9545 #18 Posted 01 March 2018 - 09:33 PM

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Sorry, it seems to me like most commenters are still missing the point

This is not a flight sim any more

It is an arcade game

No 1 cares how your plane, any plane flies, handles, climbs, dives or anything else

Just fly around aimlessly shooting at whatever is in front of you

As for the new camo, are we in weapons of war or at the local fair

Have played the game very little since it's destruction with 2.0

Oh, the discussion of bot's, if enough real live breathing people played the game, there would be no need for bots

There are no bots in tanks or even warships

The fact that bots are required says it all

When this game opened for beta testing it was the most looked forward to game that year, great hopes for a great game

Now it needs bots, sadd



soshootmenow #19 Posted 02 March 2018 - 06:27 AM

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View Postken9545, on 01 March 2018 - 09:33 PM, said:

Sorry, it seems to me like most commenters are still missing the point

This is not a flight sim any more

It is an arcade game

No 1 cares how your plane, any plane flies, handles, climbs, dives or anything else

Just fly around aimlessly shooting at whatever is in front of you

As for the new camo, are we in weapons of war or at the local fair

Have played the game very little since it's destruction with 2.0

Oh, the discussion of bot's, if enough real live breathing people played the game, there would be no need for bots

There are no bots in tanks or even warships

The fact that bots are required says it all

When this game opened for beta testing it was the most looked forward to game that year, great hopes for a great game

Now it needs bots, sadd

 

Ken...I do not know you but you have mostly hit the nail on the head.

I have been saying this over and over but hopefully with this thread the developers and management will see this.

Guys....please....let's be real. 1.9 version appealed to a very loyal but insufficient fan base.

2.0 in realistic terms can attract new players but will not be able to retain them. It is a rinky-dink arcade joke.

Please.....there is a simple solution to all of the issues that with a little thought and effort is realistically not that difficult to implement.

MAKE THIS A TWO-MODE GAME!!!

I mean really.....any modern pc for the last seven years can handle the load. If it cannot (for some absurd reason), no big deal, MAKE IT A SELECTABLE DOWNLOAD JUST LIKE SD OR HD!!.

With 2.0 to attract new players, 1.9 (full, original, and complete) to bring back all of the OP's and to give the new 2.0 players something to advance to (Thus RETAINING THEM!!!!) instead of letting them just bolt for the next new 'trendy' whatever game this game would have a very realistic shot at true viable success.

Although not substantial enough on their own...you have THOUSANDS of former players with simply VAST levels of dedicated experience, tactics, developed Clans and infrastructure, techniques, relationships, fantastic user community, etc...etc....etc....that will not eat this [edited]load. We all took everything else that worked and failed. But in case you have not noticed.....NOT....THIS.....TIME!

Combine this with the new players you can and have attracted with 2.0 you have a honest, for-real-chance at establishing a viable, sustainable player base. And I mean that from a business standpoint.

The other side of the business standpoint is you give your customers what they want....and what YOU ALL PROMISED. And that is CHOICES!.

The OP's stuck by you for YEARS!......I...Mean....For....Actual.....YEARS!

Every update...good or bad (I will leave you to self examine your true realistic results of all of those updates on an individual basis).

But with this one.....Not this time buddy. Virtually all of us left.

No one is flying.

You can hide the stats but I can see who is and is not flying in my Clan. Same for all of the other OP Clans.

I know because there is no movement AT ALL of the original clan rankings. There has not been for MONTHS!

I used to play this game 2-4 hours a night. More on the weekends.

Now you are lucky if I put in one or two battles ever couple of weeks.

That also has not changed in 3 or 4 months and is not going to.

I don't want another game that is a stupid arcade wiz-bang-shoot-em-up for 7 year olds.

Simply put....1.9 pushed off new users because they would get seal-clubbed and raped.

Establish a base level of xxx number of battles in 2.0 with new users so they can build experience, aircraft, options, etc.... before they can advance to the 1.9 level.

Make 1.9 a premium or pay level if need be.

I have proposed this on multiple threads. Do you read what is being said out there!!!???

I would be happy to discuss this at a more intricate level with any developer or management so this could become a workable, viable, real option.

If you did that then this game has a real shot of becoming enjoyable and workable for all for both an entertainment and business standpoint (thousands of free customers just waiting for a reason to come back. Business, Marketing 101 people!!???)

I miss flying with my clan mates and respected opponents.

Please be reasonable and open to some new ideas. We all want to come back. But virtually no one is going to eat the 2.0 update. We wont be back this time if it stays that way.

Just give us a real reason to do so. For all of us that stuck by you for so very, very long I do not think it is asking too much.

Keep 2.0 live and running. Just give all of the OP's back 1.9 as it was as another option/mode since this would be what we, the customers, are asking for and the choices you promised us.


 


 

My last real flight was the night of the 2.0 update in my Ta 152. I made it a point to remember it.

I believe all of the OP's know EXACTLY why I did that.


 

Thankyou for your consideration.


 

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trikke #20 Posted 02 March 2018 - 01:38 PM

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View Postken9545, on 01 March 2018 - 04:33 PM, said:

As for the new camo, are we in weapons of war or at the local fair

 

oh jeez... what in the hell is happening with 'the new camo'?

 

i didn't see any new...  oh wait, do you mean the country-specific stuff?     i have zero problems with that

 

if you have a problem with it, just try to relax        it's way down at the very bottom on the general list of problems 

 

 

the subject of camo made me flash back years ago to wot


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