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trikke #1 Posted 03 February 2018 - 01:25 PM

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i need another T7, and love heavies

 

could i also use this as a fast GA if i load gold AP incendiary? 


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I wouldn't use anything with less than 30mm in ground attack although I successfully finished off a Missile Base in a Boomerang just 10 minutes ago so anything is possible.

 

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Machine guns aren't the best for dealing with ground targets (just ask the Tsh-2). They can do damage to soft targets, but as soon as something armored shows up they'll do bugger all. The bombs are nice, though. The aircraft also seems a little too fast; combined with the short range on the guns you have to be very careful not to end up smashing into the side of a building while doing a pass. Personally I wouldn't use it for ground attack outside of dropping the bombs, but maybe it can finish off heavily damaged ground targets too (and by heavily damaged I mean the building is so shot up the walls are basically irrelevant :amazed:)


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View Posttrikke, on 03 February 2018 - 08:25 AM, said:

i need another T7, and love heavies

 

could i also use this as a fast GA if i load gold AP incendiary? 

 

Do not use it as a GA.  The bombs are powerful, depending on the map and ground target you may be able to take out 1 target with each bomb.  However the rest of the time, you need to fly it as a regular heavy fighter.  It is more maneuverable than the 109Z, but takes much longer to finish targets, and not as fast or durable.  Try and think of it as a beefed up P-51.

 

Personally at tier 7 I would just use the 109Z if I wanted to play HF for the win.  If I needed to credit farm I would take either the Meteor, or K302, or maybe the La-9RD.

 

If you absolutely must have a tier 7 premium HF, then I would recommend the XP-75 as it has better stats than the VB-10, except for guns, and allows for bombs.

 

But as premium HFs go, I would prefer the Tier 6 XP-50, or the Tier 8 XP-58.


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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 03 February 2018 - 03:33 PM, said:

I wouldn't use anything with less than 30mm in ground attack although I successfully finished off a Missile Base in a Boomerang just 10 minutes ago so anything is possible.

 

I hate these things - they used to pick on my Dora all the time.

 

IL-10 thru 40P's 23mms would like a word with you...they mow targets as well as they do planes they can catch.

 

...that said, random chance to set fire is unreliable at best, and you should cut the cost and stay away from attacking ground with small machine guns.



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I looked at it- along with other US premiums on sale- as a heavy fighter trainer for my P-38 pilots, useless sods that they are.

 

Looking here, I passed after reading it was "a group of parts flying in formation", "The P-75 Eagle was an airplane that only its designer could love." and "The P-75 Eagle may have looked like a bad airplane, but don't be fooled, 
it was a bad airplane.". Player reviews seemed mixed.

 

I opted for the XP-50 (details on XP-75 from same source), 40% cheaper and with a couple of cannon.



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View Postpyantoryng, on 03 February 2018 - 11:26 AM, said:

IL-10 thru 40P's 23mms would like a word with you...they mow targets as well as they do planes they can catch.

 

...that said, random chance to set fire is unreliable at best, and you should cut the cost and stay away from attacking ground with small machine guns.

 

Oddly enough, I found the IL-10's 23mm cannons to be rather ineffective at mowing down ground targets, even though they have the same DPS on paper as the IL-8's 45s. I never got a good feel for them, as I did with the IL-20's or the Me 329's 30s. However, what has surprised me in it's ground attack capabilities are the Hawker's 20mm cannons, especially at tier V :amazed:


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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 03 February 2018 - 09:33 AM, said:

 although I successfully finished off a Missile Base in a Boomerang just 10 minutes ago so anything is possible.

 

Did the Missile Base cuddle with you for a few minutes or just roll over and go to sleep?

 



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played two battles in it, died six times in it...  does little that's useful at the tier it fights in

 

WG sez "Developed as a heavy escort fighter" so it literally has no actual in-game role, other than punching bag 

 

i've spent 20 bucks on many ultimately useless things in my long life, so i'm not torn up about it

 

a more determined, more focused person would will themselves to learn to make it work, but...   i'm neither of those 


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View Posttrikke, on 03 February 2018 - 07:40 PM, said:

played two battles in it, died six times in it...  does little that's useful at the tier it fights in

 

WG sez "Developed as a heavy escort fighter" so it literally has no actual in-game role, other than punching bag 

 

i've spent 20 bucks on many ultimately useless things in my long life, so i'm not torn up about it

 

a more determined, more focused person would will themselves to learn to make it work, but...   i'm neither of those 

 

...wait, you bought it?



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View PostBobby_Tables, on 03 February 2018 - 02:37 PM, said:

Did the Missile Base cuddle with you for a few minutes or just roll over and go to sleep?

 

It's two bombs should allow it to blow up the central ground target if placed right. With that, you're about half-way done with the sector


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View Posttrikke, on 03 February 2018 - 07:40 PM, said:

played two battles in it, died six times in it...  does little that's useful at the tier it fights in...

Oh dear, if I'd known you had your hand in your wallet already I'd maybe have been more blunt- it looked like a sack of s...s...s...so so at best to me.

 

 



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I've been looking at the XP-50, XP-75, or XP-58 (still have a bunch of gold left from the holiday crates).  Primarily trying to decide between the XP-50 and XP-58.

 

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View Postpyantoryng, on 03 February 2018 - 02:48 PM, said:

 

...wait, you bought it?

 

i badly wanted to 'misuse' it as a fast GA, using 10 12.5s firing gold AP incendiary...    i thought i found a loophole crack in the meta, like flying bombers low

 

but it's just too fast...  two of the deaths were from my attempts to maneuver a loaded down 10 ton plane, with a high stall speed, too low to the ground 

 

and three were from the same guy driving a Zwilling in the same battle...  o7 Criken

 

yep, i bought it...    i don't care much for GM cars, so i don't know why i thought a GM plane would be any better


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View PostExploratorOne, on 04 February 2018 - 09:20 AM, said:

I've been looking at the XP-50, XP-75, or XP-58 (still have a bunch of gold left from the holiday crates).  Primarily trying to decide between the XP-50 and XP-58.

 

loved the xp-50 in WT, always my favorite in it's tier there

 

flew it here...  mothballed it after just a few battles 

 

i like the huge guns on the 58, though


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View Posttrikke, on 04 February 2018 - 10:13 AM, said:

i badly wanted to 'misuse' it as a fast GA, using 10 12.5s firing gold AP incendiary...    i thought i found a loophole crack in the meta, like flying bombers low

 

but it's just too fast...  two of the deaths were from my attempts to maneuver a loaded down 10 ton plane, with a high stall speed, too low to the ground 

 

and three were from the same guy driving a Zwilling in the same battle...  o7 Criken

 

yep, i bought it...    i don't care much for GM cars, so i don't know why i thought a GM plane would be any better

 

I did warn you about crashing into buildings :kamikaze:. If you really want to hit some ground targets I'd suggest something that at least has 20mm cannons, and avoid attacking on a steep dive unless it's to bomb something. The Hurricane II atm seems to be a wannabe GAA, and it's surprisingly effective at it too :great:


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View Posttrikke, on 04 February 2018 - 10:19 AM, said:

 

loved the xp-50 in WT, always my favorite in it's tier there

 

flew it here...  mothballed it after just a few battles 

 

i like the huge guns on the 58, though

 

Interesting about the XP-50.  The discount is tempting...

trikke #18 Posted 07 February 2018 - 04:17 PM

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my next battle in the xp-75 was much better than the previous 2...  10k and some change CP 

 

i was more judicious in choosing the lonely caps this time... and picking on a few bot GAs and maintaining an altitude cushion helped me grab the #1 spot in a win

 

i kept my eye on airspeed this time, and shooting 10 gold armor-piercing 50 cal equivalents with marksman one seemed to chew stuff up when i waited to get close enough 

 

plus, i could climb up like a chubby out of shape cat enroute between caps and pop a couple of bots, and still beat the other T7 GAs to the next cap

 

 

still looking sideways at the xp-75, but it's unusual enough to warrant more attempts at meta-busting 


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I took a look at it, but passed given it's only caliber .50 armament - and now I'm glad I did, as playing the tier VIII Pancake without any cannons is putting me off playing heavies and high tier altogether.

Seriously, what was WG thinking when they came up with the US lines concepts, "machine-guns are fun so players will enjoy the challenge of facing all cannon armed all higher flying all better turning types on red.'' - W.T.F. !

 

I've seen the comparable VB.10 in a few matches, piloted by bots though yet usually one of the good if not Ace level AI, and while it has a better armament mix the no bombs things makes it a pure hunter and no more.

Might as well be flying a light fighter instead to turn with all the 'Spits, Yaks, and Zeroes.

 

No good heavy at tier VII for any nation that doesn't require folks to be an absolute expert pilot along with getting favorable matchmaking every battle?


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View PostSoylent_Red_Isnt_People, on 07 February 2018 - 04:57 PM, said:

I took a look at it, but passed given it's only caliber .50 armament - and now I'm glad I did, as playing the tier VIII Pancake without any cannons is putting me off playing heavies and high tier altogether.

Seriously, what was WG thinking when they came up with the US lines concepts, "machine-guns are fun so players will enjoy the challenge of facing all cannon armed all higher flying all better turning types on red.'' - W.T.F. !

 

I've seen the comparable VB.10 in a few matches, piloted by bots though yet usually one of the good if not Ace level AI, and while it has a better armament mix the no bombs things makes it a pure hunter and no more.

Might as well be flying a light fighter instead to turn with all the 'Spits, Yaks, and Zeroes.

 

No good heavy at tier VII for any nation that doesn't require folks to be an absolute expert pilot along with getting favorable matchmaking every battle?

 

WoWP had a much longer history than the existence of 2.0...the machine gun fighters of North American actually worked quite well with their superior altitude performance stalling out people all day long and were among the few that could have keep up with heavy fighters. Six M3s had power that rivals autocannons while having the overheating characteristics of machine guns...like the ShKAS of high tiers.

 

Now, WG had totally forgotten about them or about balancing them to the numerous cannon-armed planes, and their style of fighting does not match with how things work in practice, forcing people to fight lower and more turning and whatnot.

 

...you can always save up some free EXP for the Pancake's M39...it's not like there's something like Missouri or Nelson to strive for and unification of free EXP won't be coming anytime soon.



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