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The Four Things That Make Bombers Frustrating To Play In The Current Meta

Started by legoboy0401, Jan 23 2018 01:33 AM
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Poll: Issues with Bombers (44 members have cast votes)

High-Altitude AA: OP, UP, or Just Right?

  1. OP (16 votes [36.36%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 36.36%

  2. UP (5 votes [11.36%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.36%

  3. Just Right (20 votes [45.45%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 45.45%

  4. I don't know (3 votes [6.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.82%

Should information about the exact altitude that your engines struggle to keep above stall speed in anything but a perfectly flat, straight line be added?

  1. Yes (26 votes [59.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 59.09%

  2. No (14 votes [31.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 31.82%

  3. I don't know (3 votes [6.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.82%

  4. I don't understand(ask me if you don't understand this, it is in fact kind of complicated) (1 vote [2.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.27%

Should Bomber optimum altitude increase?(thus Bombers can travel a bit faster at a high altitude, where they are generally mostly safe)

  1. yes (17 votes [38.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 38.64%

  2. no (25 votes [56.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 56.82%

  3. I don't know (2 votes [4.55%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.55%

Should the skills Weakest Link,(gunner automatically aims for the enemy lowest on health, not worth it's extremely high price) Defensive Fire(doesn't seem to work right) be buffed or removed?

  1. yes (26 votes [59.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 59.09%

  2. no (10 votes [22.73%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.73%

  3. I don't know (8 votes [18.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

Do you use Concealing Liverly on your Bombers?

  1. Yes (27 votes [61.36%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 61.36%

  2. No (17 votes [38.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 38.64%

  3. I don't know (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. I don't have any Bombers yet (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

If you answered yes to the last question, do you find it to have a noticeable, major effect?

  1. yes (17 votes [38.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 38.64%

  2. no (12 votes [27.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

  3. I don't know (3 votes [6.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.82%

  4. I did not answer yes to the last question (12 votes [27.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.27%

Cruise Flight: do you use this skill on any planes you own?

  1. yes (10 votes [22.73%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.73%

  2. no (33 votes [75.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 75.00%

  3. I don't know (1 vote [2.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.27%

If you answered yes to the last question, does Cruise Flight have a noticeable effect/seem to be working correctly?

  1. yes (9 votes [20.45%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.45%

  2. no (3 votes [6.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.82%

  3. I don't know (3 votes [6.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.82%

  4. I did not answer yes to the last question (29 votes [65.91%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 65.91%

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CorvusCorvax #41 Posted 29 June 2018 - 04:24 AM

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View PostPrenzlau, on 29 June 2018 - 03:14 AM, said:

Just because someone owns a bomber does not mean they are any good at piloting a bomber. I'm sorry if that is a crass statement, but I see too many people blaming the game for their own lack of skill and experience. 

 

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Code_Exodus #42 Posted 30 August 2019 - 09:54 PM

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I like bombers and want to love them again, but getting dog piled by reds even at max altitude and all allies buzzing off for easier kills using me as a bullet sponge distraction is painful to play and extremely bittering my view to anyone in blue.

I have to hop in a Douglas A 26-B and go super heavy fighter while bombing to have a remote chance to win, every match lately in my beloved B-17's ends in a blowout loss while I'm getting minced everywhere on the map no matter how high or quick I go.

W/R has dropped to the point where troll blues are ramming my plan and saying because my stats suck.


hoom #43 Posted 31 August 2019 - 01:51 AM

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Thats quite a necro.

This thread pre-dates the Equipment system rework, massive AA buff/s and Bomber-Seeking-Missile Bot Heavies.

 

Bombers got so tedious to play I've given up on them entirely.


C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas le SerB.

CorvusCorvax #44 Posted 31 August 2019 - 04:07 AM

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View Posthoom, on 31 August 2019 - 01:51 AM, said:

Thats quite a necro.

This thread pre-dates the Equipment system rework, massive AA buff/s and Bomber-Seeking-Missile Bot Heavies.

 

Bombers got so tedious to play I've given up on them entirely.


I've taken them back up, and having fun with them.  :)


SpiritFoxMY #45 Posted 03 September 2019 - 02:50 AM

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Bombers are the tier 9/10 meta. Early game they're frustrating but once you hit tier 9 on the Germans and tier 10 on the Russians, you're suddenly God on the battlefield and everyone dances to your tune. 

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SkyWolf__WM #46 Posted 03 September 2019 - 12:26 PM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 02 September 2019 - 09:50 PM, said:

Bombers are the tier 9/10 meta. Early game they're frustrating but once you hit tier 9 on the Germans and tier 10 on the Russians, you're suddenly God on the battlefield and everyone dances to your tune. 

 

Only a Human, supremacy bomber is a problem. Otherwise, They drop like flies whether I'm' flying them or killing them.  :B


Edited by SkyWolf__WM, 03 September 2019 - 12:28 PM.

***************Fail to Suck****************

I shall use my aircraft and my skill to slightly inconvenience mine enemies.

SpiritFoxMY #47 Posted 03 September 2019 - 12:41 PM

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Why compare planes flown by bots? If you're losing to a bot then the problem isn't the plane. 

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Stygian_Alchemist #48 Posted 07 September 2019 - 07:58 PM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 03 September 2019 - 06:41 AM, said:

Why compare planes flown by bots? If you're losing to a bot then the problem isn't the plane. 

Why is it because you can't beat a bomber they must be a problem? If you're not able to beat a bomber, then the problem is you. 


SpiritFoxMY #49 Posted 07 September 2019 - 11:29 PM

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View PostStygian_Alchemist, on 08 September 2019 - 03:58 AM, said:

Why is it because you can't beat a bomber they must be a problem? If you're not able to beat a bomber, then the problem is you. 

 

That taunt might work if you were desert. You're not desert. You're an itinerant meta pilot who spends her time spamming either bombers or hard counters to bombers. 


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Stygian_Alchemist #50 Posted 08 September 2019 - 12:15 AM

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View PostSpiritFoxMY, on 07 September 2019 - 05:29 PM, said:

 

That taunt might work if you were desert. You're not desert. You're an itinerant meta pilot who spends her time spamming either bombers or hard counters to bombers. 

You seem to think anything you fly badly or can't beat is a meta plane.

Also.. that word.. itinerant... You might want to learn what it actually means before using it? You're a rather garrulous and voluble fellow though, so I imagine that you'll try to spin the word to fit your... whatever.

o7

I'll just go back to playing My F7U Cutlass. Such a Meta Plane, So wow! Maybe I can fly some more bv p215.02 or any of a dozen other planes I regularly fly that are just sooooo Meta! Woo! I bet that Ki-94-I in my hangar needs the nerf stick taken to it, doesn't it? Maybe you'd like to discuss how my IL-40P needs nerfed further because it's a meta plane? Or perhaps we can discuss any of dozens of other planes that must be so meta... since that's.. all I fly, right? I'm sure that since ya know.. you have SO MANY games at T7-10 (where I fly.. I don't think I've ever seen you) you would know my flight habits, right?

Editing to add: OH NO! I AM PULLING MY JAVELIN! EVERYONE HIDE! I'M BRINGING THE METASSSSSSSSS *eyeroll*

Thank you for the laugh though, really and truly. I needed a bit of humor in my life.


Edited by Stygian_Alchemist, 08 September 2019 - 12:33 AM.

Stygian_Alchemist #51 Posted 08 September 2019 - 12:40 AM

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Since I am considering re-buying my Zwilling and flying it and I only fly meta planes, will that make it a meta plane?

Or maybe since I can kill bombers in my Yak-30 that makes it a hard bomber counter, right?

Does the fact that I've shot down several player bombers in my P1102B make it a hard bomber counter?

Is my F2G meta? A hard bomber counter? both?

Asking for a friend.

And since I sold my Hunter to buy my Cutlass... that must mean the Hunter is trash now right?

Edited by Stygian_Alchemist, 08 September 2019 - 12:41 AM.

Stygian_Alchemist #52 Posted 08 September 2019 - 12:45 AM

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And.. uh.. to be clear: META DOES NOT MEAN "UGH! I HAVE A HARD TIME BEATING EXPERIENCED PILOTS IN THIS PLANE IT'S NOT FAIR!"

Contrary to the majority of this forum's belief.

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View PostStygian_Alchemist, on 07 September 2019 - 06:40 PM, said:

Since I am considering re-buying my Zwilling and flying it and I only fly meta planes, will that make it a meta plane?  Yes

Or maybe since I can kill bombers in my Yak-30 that makes it a hard bomber counter, right? Yes

Does the fact that I've shot down several player bombers in my P1102B make it a hard bomber counter?  Sure

Is my F2G meta? A hard bomber counter? both?  Both

Asking for a friend.  Answered

And since I sold my Hunter to buy my Cutlass... that must mean the Hunter is trash now right?  Yep

 

Heck Stygian, any plane you play is meta.

 

It's just the way you roll.  

 

Stay thirsty.  


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Stygian_Alchemist #54 Posted 08 September 2019 - 02:16 AM

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View PostFour_Leaf_Tayback, on 07 September 2019 - 06:58 PM, said:

 

Heck Stygian, any plane you play is meta.

 

It's just the way you roll.  

 

Stay thirsty.  

Aaah, I -make- the planes meta.. so did I misunderstand earlier? When it was said that I am a "meta pilot", it doesn't mean I fly meta planes? It meant I'm so good _I_ am meta?

Well now, that's a liver spot of a different color ain't it?


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