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mullyman #41 Posted 24 November 2017 - 04:34 PM

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PS - "average maximum" - ??

 

jesus dude...just give it up...you sound dumber with every post.


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mnbv_fockewulfe #42 Posted 24 November 2017 - 04:35 PM

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View Postramp4ge, on 24 November 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

The graph shows the maximum number of people on at any given time on any given date.

 

The average maximum over the timespan indicated was 357. There were days where there was a higher peak, and days where there was a lower peak, but across the 2 year timespan indicated, the average peak was 357 players.

 

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Average peak would be taking the highest number of players on per day and dividing that for the total number of days.

 

That's exactly what the graph is doing...The entire point of the graph is to show daily peak. The "period average" is an average of daily peaks over the 2 year span recorded by the graph...

 

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mnbv_fockewulfe #43 Posted 24 November 2017 - 04:38 PM

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Also, just by looking at the graph, the lost populated day was just under 400 players (excluding rare out-liers).

Therefore, the average peak can't be below 400 players, which the number you are quoting is less than.

 


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ramp4ge #44 Posted 24 November 2017 - 04:47 PM

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Yes. The "Period" here being the 2 year timespan you see represented..

 

There are days where the peak was at 200 or less. And days where the peak was at 931. Which is why the average is where it is. Because it is an average of daily peaks taken over a 2 year timeframe.

 

The really sad part here is even if we assume that the average daily peak over 2 years was over 400, the highest peak was still less than 1,000, which means that over a 2 year timespan the game never once broke 1,000 players on at any one time.

 

That's extremely sad and it's absolutely indefensible. The game had no playerbase to sustain it.

 


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View Postmullyman, on 24 November 2017 - 08:33 AM, said:

 

​I see people are still trying to teach you the word "peak".     I guess tankers were never really that bright to begin with.

 

I asked you for something and you've yet to give it.

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View PostFurysghost, on 23 November 2017 - 09:18 PM, said:

OP threw out some good ideas.

 

l tried War Thunder twice and uninstalled it twice it had zero appeal to me.

 

l tried this game prior to 2.0 when it launched and it was sad l soon quit and only came back for 2.0.

2.0 is far better for myself and thats also with the understanding that its still WIP and there are bots involved.

 

l have no dog in the fight as far as the 1.9/prior crowd goes l never played it.

 

Reality is 2.0 is the game now and l hope they continue to grow and improve it as l see myself sticking around for a while.

Wknds and certain times of the day the RL players are certainly there and l think the number seems to have grown.

lt may take a while but my hope is that in time the game pop is where the RL players are bulk of every battle or make up entire team.

 

This is me as well.  I tried the game before and IMO it was terrible!  I don't want to step on any veteran toes, but the previous mod was not working.  2.0 is their attempt to bring in more RL players and I personally hope it's successful. I see it as a nice blend between WOWS and WOT...not perfect but with plenty of room to grow and improve. 

 

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View Postramp4ge, on 24 November 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

 

I asked you for something and you've yet to give it.

 

https://stats.wotapi...s/wowp/na/total

 

There you go Einstein.  PEAK of 847 players.     Not too hard to understand unless you are....well.....you.

Maybe you didn't switch the time to a year.

Probably only had it for 24 hours and are now trying to backtrack on your mistake.

 


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View Postmullyman, on 24 November 2017 - 09:11 AM, said:

 

https://stats.wotapi...s/wowp/na/total

 

There you go Einstein.  PEAK of 847 players.     Not too hard to understand unless you are....well.....you.

Maybe you didn't switch the time to a year.

Probably only had it for 24 hours and are now trying to backtrack on your mistake.

 

 

Follow your own link. It shows the 24 hours between October 11th 2017 and October 12 2017 and shows a peak of 399.

 

I had the time set to 2 years. Or "All". The site kept records for 2 years and ended on October 12 when Wargaming stopped providing data.

 

If you look at the ABSOLUTE PEAK on the 1 year timespan, you see that on one day, June 11, 2017, the peak was 847.

 

That was one day. That does not represent the peak over that entire year. For that, you'd need an average.


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Show the days where peak was 200 maximum.  Average Peak, or average Maximum, is when you take the peak/maximum for every day and average those numbers.  That leaves out the 24hr average, and server restarts.  The average peak therefore is larger than the average daily.  In general, this is during peak hours, which someone stated being 8-10pm or so.  Your statement makes it sound like only 400 players played, but on any given day, you have people playing during the morning only, maybe morning to late afternoon, some log off, come back later, some only play say 6pm-9pm and some are west coast/aussieland who play until server restart.  The peak time when people get home from work and blow off steam was probably the busiest, and generally you'd see numbers around 5-600.  Abysmal numbers for what I'm sure they targeted...but it was their doing over the years.  Interest peaked during events...you'd think they'd get a clue from that.  Even now it appears beyond them.

 

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That's exactly why I was stating an average of daily peaks. Because I know a peak is not "players logged in all day" but is a snapshot of the maximum number of players logged in on a particular 24 hour timespan. My statement was that on average, over the last 2 years, the game saw a peak of 357 players. There were days where there was a higher peak, days where there was a lower peak, but on average, the daily peak was 357, over the recorded 2 year timespan.

 

But that's exactly my point. It's been going on for a very, very long time. You can't blame 2.0 for the lack of players because 2.0 was the ANSWER to a lack of players. The person I originally quoted tried to blame 2.0 for a lack of players when it's the exact opposite in reality. The lack of players made 2.0 a necessary step to try to save the game. 



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woops,

there are 38 days in my month. :ohmy::teethhappy:


 

edit: I fixed the numbers and its only off by 1, so the general idea is still the same.


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View Postramp4ge, on 24 November 2017 - 05:33 PM, said:

That's exactly why I was stating an average of daily peaks. Because I know a peak is not "players logged in all day" but is a snapshot of the maximum number of players logged in on a particular 24 hour timespan. My statement was that on average, over the last 2 years, the game saw a peak of 357 players. There were days where there was a higher peak, days where there was a lower peak, but on average, the daily peak was 357, over the recorded 2 year timespan.

 

But that's exactly my point. It's been going on for a very, very long time. You can't blame 2.0 for the lack of players because 2.0 was the ANSWER to a lack of players. The person I originally quoted tried to blame 2.0 for a lack of players when it's the exact opposite in reality. The lack of players made 2.0 a necessary step to try to save the game.

 

As far as 2.0 goes,

a relaunch was necessary, yes, but not what we got in 2.0.

We should have seen it coming when Al King said they tried making the game into a MOBA. :hiding:


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View Postmullyman, on 24 November 2017 - 04:34 PM, said:

PS - "average maximum" - ??

 

jesus dude...just give it up...you sound dumber with every post.

Tonks is full of idiots. Tried playing over theee after here. Why fight when you can hide? Why think when you can insult? Why try when you can [edited]and moan? That's my impression of tonks players bar a few. 


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View Postmullyman, on 24 November 2017 - 08:31 AM, said:

 

​2.0 will go right down the same toilet once the participation trophy kids realize its just as boring as 1.xxxx.

 

This is how you recognize a pudgy, middle-aged guy who gets overly attached to WWII games because his wife won't pay attention to him anymore and he needs something to do at night.  :teethhappy:  What people like you seem to forget, partner, is that it wasn't the kids who came up with the participation trophies, it was the adults, because they desperately wanted something to put on the mantelpiece for all the money and time they poured into their precious little crotchfruit.

 

Middle Class Parents

Giving up [my band/skydiving business/backpacking through Nepal] and getting a job selling insurance was totally worth it!  *squeezes trophy, grits teeth, rictal grin intensifies*  IT WAS WORTH IT.

 

In summary, any time you hear someone b*tching about "kids these days" or using that concept to put people down, you know not to take that person at all seriously.  I'm one of the "participation trophy" generation, so let me relate to you a cold, hard fact:  IF there is anything wrong with my generation, it's because we were raised by your generation.


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Not my kids Boner.

 

They don't get anything not earned.


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View PostJohnny_Wishbone, on 24 November 2017 - 07:17 PM, said:

 

This is how you recognize a pudgy, middle-aged guy who gets overly attached to WWII games because his wife won't pay attention to him anymore and he needs something to do at night.  :teethhappy:  What people like you seem to forget, partner, is that it wasn't the kids who came up with the participation trophies, it was the adults, because they desperately wanted something to put on the mantelpiece for all the money and time they poured into their precious little crotchfruit.

 

 

In summary, any time you hear someone b*tching about "kids these days" or using that concept to put people down, you know not to take that person at all seriously.  I'm one of the "participation trophy" generation, so let me relate to you a cold, hard fact:  IF there is anything wrong with my generation, it's because we were raised by your generation.

 

 

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hehe..crotchfruit...I like that :great:

 

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View PostBubba_Zanetti, on 24 November 2017 - 11:42 AM, said:

hehe..crotchfruit...I like that :great:

 

A friend of mine runs an architecture firm, and asked me over to double-check her engineering work.  The whole time I was working on it, she was haranguing me about people parking in her driveway while they wait to pick up their kids at school.  She used that word MANY times, and I have never forgotten it.  :P

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View PostCamoCladWarrior, on 23 November 2017 - 09:53 PM, said:

 

 

Since 2.0 launched they are hiding the number of players, what makes you think it is even 400 per day now?  The last several games I suffered through over the past two weeks were only me and one other human in each game...  That was not the norm in 1.9, the only time I remember 1 on 1 games regularly in 1.9 were late night/early mornings...

 

By the way I'm not blaming new players for anything, when 2.0 was released I recall [edited]after [edited]raving about how easy and fun the new game was as they were ripping through tiers with minimal effort or skill.  Lately that seems to have subsided, the games seem to be empty, at least the few I have suffered through playing over the last several weeks and it seems strange WG is throwing fee stuff at people trying to bribe them to keep playing the game.  I know countless people who played this game every day for at least the last year I played that have given up and moved on...  I personally think the game is in a death spiral...


 

 

Well at least it explains why you like this crap sandwich of a game now...  Look squirrel!  Also, go pound sand...


 

 

I'm new, but, at least speaking for myself, I regularly play in games where at least half the team is human. Maybe its because I'm in T5/T6, I dunno, but that's been my experience.





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