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CamoCladWarrior #21 Posted 24 November 2017 - 05:59 AM

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View PostRarearth, on 24 November 2017 - 05:24 AM, said:

 Protip: your wrong there mr 5 battle ... and another thing Go pound sand lol pound sand , where does he gettem      :teethhappy:

 

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View PostRarearth, on 23 November 2017 - 09:24 PM, said:

 Protip: your wrong there mr 5 battle ... and another thing Go pound sand lol pound sand , where does he gettem      :teethhappy:

 

 

357 average peak from October 2015 - October 2017

 

What was that about 'pounding sand'?


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Johnny_Wishbone #23 Posted 24 November 2017 - 06:19 AM

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View PostCamoCladWarrior, on 23 November 2017 - 06:53 PM, said:

Well at least it explains why you like this crap sandwich of a game now...  Look squirrel!  Also, go pound sand...

 

My, oh my.  You certainly showed me who the better man is with that scathing and original insult.  I do wonder how it is that you manage to go about an ordinary day with that bucket you have to hang off your @ss because you're so full of yourself.  Or do you just use a diaper?

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View PostCamoCladWarrior, on 23 November 2017 - 06:53 PM, said:

 

 

Since 2.0 launched they are hiding the number of players, what makes you think it is even 400 per day now?  


 

 

I can't say if it's more or less than 400 now. But neither can you, because of the reason you already noted.

 

If you can't back it up, don't even bother saying it.


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View Postramp4ge, on 23 November 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

 

Implying here that the game had an active playerbase before 2.0.

 

Protip: It didn't. This server peaked at less than 400 players a day. For the last 2 years.

 

Don't blame new players for an issue that's existed since the game went live.

 

View Postramp4ge, on 24 November 2017 - 01:13 AM, said:

 

 

357 average peak from October 2015 - October 2017

 

What was that about 'pounding sand'?

 

FG2.0 Pro-tip:  average and peak are not the same.  Stay in skewl, unless you’re esl which may explain the misunderstanding.

 

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The peak is the maximum number of players logging in every day.

 

The average peak per day was 357.

 

This means that on average the game had a maximum of 357 players on at any given point on any given day.

 

Given that the average peak was 357, the average actual players on at any given point on any given day would be significantly lower. As you can see, the "lowest period" was 1. There was literally a time in the last 2 years where 1 person was logged in. 

 

1. Person.

 

In that 2 year span, not one time did the peak break 1,000 players.

 

That's really, really sad.


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Bubba_Zanetti #27 Posted 24 November 2017 - 06:40 AM

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Not sure how many more times you're going to edit your response, but maybe these will help:

 


 

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ramp4ge #28 Posted 24 November 2017 - 06:42 AM

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I'll edit my response as many times as I feel is necessary.

 

The point never changed, so if you have a counter-point, I'm waiting for it.



Bubba_Zanetti #29 Posted 24 November 2017 - 06:44 AM

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View Postramp4ge, on 24 November 2017 - 01:27 AM, said:

 

 

There was literally a time in the last 2 years where 1 person was logged in. 

 

1. Person.

 

 

 

Dang boy...you're good...Damn you WG  and your Server restarts every day!!!!!!!


 

“The sad truth is that the one thing around here is that we can always rely on is broken promises”& WarMagic the Scattering- Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo █ If a company can't handle the truth based on pixelated facts then they shouldn't be in this industry to begin with. Or stop overreaching at areas where they obviously lack the resources to make a sucess (WOWP)” - ArrowZ_  As it is, this “upgrade” is totally misdirected and completely ignores all player feedback over the past few years.  How this studio continues on with the parent company is a total mystery to me.” - Bobby_Tables  The only thing that will fix this game is for the developers to right click and hit send to trash. - xPALEHORSEx  They've been around a good while and seen a lot of flak so they surely must know what they're doing by now. - Catch21  All wargaming has done in all their games across the board have been stupid and greedy ideas. They are failing as a company so hard. - Veraxu  Maybe Persha should avoid patches with the number 5 in them... - mnbv-fockewulfe  You put the bombsite behind a lock until you get specialist for your bombers? That's just stupid. - comtedumas  claiming victory by fixing your own problems isn't victory, it's low brow chicanery.- TheMadPizzler  Flying games generally don't have broad appeal, and this one has issues and the company tends to pour gasoline those issues, not fix them - _Laserguided_   “I go to RU and (rhymes with git) all over dumb Slavs to express my rage.” - Rando CA  If you want to sell someone a car, you let them take it for a test drive, you don't run them over with it. - Blast_Radius1  My quote + Your signature + Please = Thank You- Prenzlau  Feelings aren't stats, now shut up and go eat tide pods” - Noreaga  “The player online count was removed October 2017 and we don't have plans to return this number to be displayed. That is the decision of the developers team.”- blindfold  After a While it Becomes Tiresome (07.06.15)” - MALICE_AT_BIRTH  “Yes, we can have a place to report all the bugs and then watch as they all get ignored for 6 months” - Gang_Starr █ SonicPariah and blindfold might be listening to us, and sending our ideas along, but Persha sure isn't getting the message.” - CorvusCorvax  They just go on inventing new not-asked-for stuff before fixing what people clearly don't like ...”- GonerNL █ There is a difference between arcade and this roll your face on the keyboard simulator” - Fog_Heavy_Cruiser_Chokai  “The real question of the day: Is there room for one more quote in Bubba‘s signature? I certainly hope so.”- MelBrooks  They had to make some space for your signature” - Marsco  “It's the game.  And your signature is long enough to choke a horse. I thought mine was too large.”- SkyWolf_WM


ramp4ge #30 Posted 24 November 2017 - 06:47 AM

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If that were the way the data was collected, then it would show 0, because there would be a time between the server going live and someone logging in. Probably about as long as there being 1 person to 2. 

 

But hell. I'm willing to concede that, simply because I don't know at what intervals the data was collected.

 

My original point still stands. 



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Just looked at the same data log for World of Tanks NA.

 

Over the last 2 years, their daily average peak was 15,767

 

17 times greater than this game's. And again, in the last 2 years, from October 12 2015 to October 12 2017 (the day data stopped being recorded), the game never broke a peak of 1,000...



Bubba_Zanetti #32 Posted 24 November 2017 - 06:55 AM

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Going to bed.  You’re too clueless to understand difference between average and peak.  Now you’re spouting average peak?  What about peak peak?  Or low peak?  Or average low?  No ones denying the server pop was low and suffering.  

 

And your original post mentioned nothing of average, just peak online of 400...

 

L8rz all..someone else continue this forum game 2.0 session...


 

“The sad truth is that the one thing around here is that we can always rely on is broken promises”& WarMagic the Scattering- Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo █ If a company can't handle the truth based on pixelated facts then they shouldn't be in this industry to begin with. Or stop overreaching at areas where they obviously lack the resources to make a sucess (WOWP)” - ArrowZ_  As it is, this “upgrade” is totally misdirected and completely ignores all player feedback over the past few years.  How this studio continues on with the parent company is a total mystery to me.” - Bobby_Tables  The only thing that will fix this game is for the developers to right click and hit send to trash. - xPALEHORSEx  They've been around a good while and seen a lot of flak so they surely must know what they're doing by now. - Catch21  All wargaming has done in all their games across the board have been stupid and greedy ideas. They are failing as a company so hard. - Veraxu  Maybe Persha should avoid patches with the number 5 in them... - mnbv-fockewulfe  You put the bombsite behind a lock until you get specialist for your bombers? That's just stupid. - comtedumas  claiming victory by fixing your own problems isn't victory, it's low brow chicanery.- TheMadPizzler  Flying games generally don't have broad appeal, and this one has issues and the company tends to pour gasoline those issues, not fix them - _Laserguided_   “I go to RU and (rhymes with git) all over dumb Slavs to express my rage.” - Rando CA  If you want to sell someone a car, you let them take it for a test drive, you don't run them over with it. - Blast_Radius1  My quote + Your signature + Please = Thank You- Prenzlau  Feelings aren't stats, now shut up and go eat tide pods” - Noreaga  “The player online count was removed October 2017 and we don't have plans to return this number to be displayed. That is the decision of the developers team.”- blindfold  After a While it Becomes Tiresome (07.06.15)” - MALICE_AT_BIRTH  “Yes, we can have a place to report all the bugs and then watch as they all get ignored for 6 months” - Gang_Starr █ SonicPariah and blindfold might be listening to us, and sending our ideas along, but Persha sure isn't getting the message.” - CorvusCorvax  They just go on inventing new not-asked-for stuff before fixing what people clearly don't like ...”- GonerNL █ There is a difference between arcade and this roll your face on the keyboard simulator” - Fog_Heavy_Cruiser_Chokai  “The real question of the day: Is there room for one more quote in Bubba‘s signature? I certainly hope so.”- MelBrooks  They had to make some space for your signature” - Marsco  “It's the game.  And your signature is long enough to choke a horse. I thought mine was too large.”- SkyWolf_WM


ramp4ge #33 Posted 24 November 2017 - 06:57 AM

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Peak peak for this game over the last 2 years was 931.

 

But that doesn't really matter because it was 1 day and it never happened again. The daily peak, on average, was much, much lower.

 

357, to be exact.

 

And my original post said "Per day".

 

Meaning an average. I even specified a timespan of 2 years. It's right there in your own quote.


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that 1 person could have been me after a server restart during the night.... (11AM in my timezone)
After the server restart the counter would go up to more than 200 players online in about 15 minutes.


Regarding the current playerbase.
On eu-server they did a statistic with the new hall-of-fame stats.
 

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Checked for today and even though it still a some hours to a "new server day" and its before peak hours a little calculation shows that already at least ~6088 players played at least 5 battles. from my average time per battle which is roughly 7 min (add hangar time, loading + queue and you are at least at 10 min - shorter for veterans that have everything configured and can jump from battle to battle, except if they browse the forums in the meanwhile) these 5 battles translate roughly to nearly an hour playtime. 978 players have played more then 20 battles today which is at very least 3 hours. 

 

of course these numbers cannot be directly compared to current players online but as we don't have anything else available they will have to do. given an hour of calculations i could probably come up with a proper conversion factor but i don't have time for that. in any case i can say that these numbers aren't low and in fact i am quite certain they beat the old peak player numbers for a Monday. my guess is that they could actually go as close to 2k at rush hour. 

 


It's not totally accurate, but wth it's the only way that gives us an idea about how many people are playing now.
For the EU-server, stats were more or less the same as they were prior to 2.0 (about 1000 on average each day)
They also aknowledged that 80% or more of the 1.9 population was not playing anymore.
This means that they have attracted a lot of new/returning players (with a lot more promo/marketing than before), but also that they missed the chance to double their playerbase.

The forced use of different accounts for different serverzones is actually also a total crap.


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View PostCamoCladWarrior, on 23 November 2017 - 10:22 AM, said:

 

The answer is what we have been saying since 2.0 was inflicted upon us, if someone wanted to play this type of game, Warthunder already fills the need and does it better.  The ADHD crowd that praised the new game when it first came out are probably already on to the next shiny object that had caught their attention and the old timers that are still in disbelief of what happened to the game they have played and loved for the last several years are giving up hope anyone will listen to their complaints...  I went from playing hundreds of games a week to suffering through playing one or two a week just to see if anything has been fixed.  I don't see it getting better, especially since they are now ineptly creating impossible missions and having to backfill a team based game with mindless bots that don't have a concept of what is needed to win the game.  Since one person cannot determine the outcome, only having a couple of people in the game makes it completely random and frustrating to the point even more people are bleeding off.  Looks like the game is in a death spiral.  It is sad really.

 

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View Postramp4ge, on 24 November 2017 - 06:13 AM, said:

 

 

357 average peak from October 2015 - October 2017

 

What was that about 'pounding sand'?

 

Poor confused soul.

What the average tells you is:

how many people were on when the server was restarted, how many on in the morning, how many on at noon, how many on in the evening, how many on at midnight, and how many on at server restart.

This will give you a bell curve shaped graph with the peak during peak time (about 10:00pm). The peak for a single day may very well have been around 500, but the average for the day may very well be only 200.

 

Now the graph does not show average peak. 

Average peak would be taking the highest number of players on per day and dividing that for the total number of days.

You've got your work cut out for you but I can tell you that without doing the counting myself, it's probably around 500-600 for the time interval.

 

edit: There are more things the graph can tell you, 

in Oct before the update, the game was following it's usually trends of decreasing player time, given enough time and another winter and axis v allies event the pop of the game would've gone up. 


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The graph shows the maximum number of people on at any given time on any given date.

 

The average maximum over the timespan indicated was 357. There were days where there was a higher peak, and days where there was a lower peak, but across the 2 year timespan indicated, the average peak was 357 players.

 

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Average peak would be taking the highest number of players on per day and dividing that for the total number of days.

 

That's exactly what the graph is doing...The entire point of the graph is to show daily peak. The "period average" is an average of daily peaks over the 2 year span recorded by the graph...


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View Postcomtedumas, on 24 November 2017 - 08:50 AM, said:

 

repeat after me.  2.0 isn't going anywhere.  1.9 is gone.  Learn it, live it, love it.  

 

​2.0 will go right down the same toilet once the participation trophy kids realize its just as boring as 1.xxxx.

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View Postramp4ge, on 23 November 2017 - 06:52 PM, said:

 

Got stats that are more accurate than a stat-keeping website?

I'd love to see them, considering you've never produced them before.

 

Ever.

 

​I see people are still trying to teach you the word "peak".     I guess tankers were never really that bright to begin with.
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