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trikke #21 Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:40 PM

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View PostMARS_REVENANT, on 22 November 2017 - 10:47 PM, said:

 

It would require NA players to be in contact with RU developers...  I think the logistics in that alone will kill your plan. 

 

However you could turn this into some pretty fun community events, and WG admins should be able to back you with prizing.  Maybe over time it could evolve into what you are talking about... depending on the player base in NA and how committed your group is.

 

quoted for truth 

 

in the deep past, if the excellent ideas weren't generated by the RU playerbase, then those ideas never happened 

 

probably nothing has changed?


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Well there was the one time I asked for the p-47 and that happened.

Along with that I asked for an axis vs allies event and that happened.

 


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View Postmnbv_fockewulfe, on 23 November 2017 - 08:09 PM, said:

Well there was the one time I asked for the p-47 and that happened.

Along with that I asked for an axis vs allies event and that happened.

 

 

SO the trick is to get you to ask.

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others have asked for a truckload of changes, additions, etc over the years...      bupkus

 

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Missions should be graded for tier level, doing 72k points of damage and winning at tier 4 is significantly different than at tier 10. The game seems to have slipped over some edge into the world of ground attack, most of the missions have to do with hitting ground targets. What can a GA do after the team has gained control of all the areas? The multi-roles are faster and get to the targets first, many battles I have spent in a GA flying to areas to be controlled just as I arrive.

 

The planes all fly about the same now. I'm not a fan of flying ground attack. I want an actual end game, not keep flying forever to grind tiers. I want a campaign setting that allows me to differ my approach from what others might try.

 

There's some suggestions and problems.



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View PostAce_BOTlistic_Cosmo, on 22 November 2017 - 05:48 PM, said:

Proposal:

We have 4-5 active PLAYERS sat down and devised missions that would encourage teamwork while still controlling the amount of rewards given so it would cost the same as now. This would build interest in working together for successful battles, it would also raise the interest in this "game".

Now, same 4-5 players could also keep an ongoing thread for input and ideas from the community and keep changing and improving the missions... this would help tighten the community. I'm sure there'd be arguments and disagreements as there always are and always shall be... but it's worth a shot.

The missions are screwed up beyond belief, teamwork is at an all time low, direction of purpose is guesswork at best.  The upside is that very little effort on WG's side... just approve the mission payouts, program the criteria for the pilot/planes and bingo... happier players

I've been thinking about this idea for a few weeks and would appreciate any input/suggestions/flames...

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As long as you add 4-5 newer players older gamers to be on said council as well, and you might get support.  The so-called “veterans” here had 5 years to influence the game in the last what, 4 years.  They failed.  

 

BTW, I helped Beta test (it was far different then than what you call a beta test now.) a game in the 90’s.  You don’t know what you are getting yourself into.  

 

Player councils have worked somewhat in other games.  


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View Postcomtedumas, on 25 November 2017 - 05:11 AM, said:

As long as you add 4-5 newer players older gamers to be on said council as well, and you might get support.  The so-called “veterans” here had 5 years to influence the game in the last what, 4 years.  They failed.  

 

BTW, I helped Beta test (it was far different then than what you call a beta test now.) a game in the 90’s.  You don’t know what you are getting yourself into.  

 

Player councils have worked somewhat in other games.  

 

Maybe reread what Ace typed.  Nowhere does it say veteran or new player.  It says “Active player”.  Get over your crusade and move on.  Besides, this thread is pointless.  WG NA has no input on the game, and never has.


 

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View PostJohnny_Wishbone, on 23 November 2017 - 03:15 PM, said:

Two suggestions:

 

  • Increase incentives to kill bombers and other player aircraft.  Right now the only viable lines are the low-altitude turn-fighters, and the high-altitude energy-fighters and heavies are pretty much without a role.

 

And second...

 

  • Find the guy in charge of monetizing for the NA server and beat the soles of his feet with a hose until he understands that offering meaningful discounts on basic stuff like gold and offering smaller, more practical bundles (like Plane+Credits+Premium Time or something like that) is going to make you more money than gigantic, improbably expensive bundles, particularly with the state of the game as it is now (improving but still uncertain).  How many people are going to spend $200 or $500 to get the P-80?  Some, probably, but not as many as would spend $75-$100 to get the P-80 plus gold/credits and premium time.  I had a fair bit of money (>$100) set aside for Black Friday, but now it's going to be spent on something other than WG content because this sale is for crap.  I could go on and on about why chasing Whales as a monetization strategy is moronic.

 

View PostJohnny_Wishbone, on 23 November 2017 - 03:15 PM, said:

Two suggestions:

 

  • Increase incentives to kill bombers and other player aircraft.  Right now the only viable lines are the low-altitude turn-fighters, and the high-altitude energy-fighters and heavies are pretty much without a role.

 

And second...

 

  • Find the guy in charge of monetizing for the NA server and beat the soles of his feet with a hose until he understands that offering meaningful discounts on basic stuff like gold and offering smaller, more practical bundles (like Plane+Credits+Premium Time or something like that) is going to make you more money than gigantic, improbably expensive bundles, particularly with the state of the game as it is now (improving but still uncertain).  How many people are going to spend $200 or $500 to get the P-80?  Some, probably, but not as many as would spend $75-$100 to get the P-80 plus gold/credits and premium time.  I had a fair bit of money (>$100) set aside for Black Friday, but now it's going to be spent on something other than WG content because this sale is for crap.  I could go on and on about why chasing Whales as a monetization strategy is moronic.

 

Agreed, I also had some money put on the side for picking a few thing on Black Friday ($100.00 ), I do believe in supporting a game that I enjoy playing but they offered nothing that was worth buying. The only thing I got was a 1 day suspension for posting an article ( which they once again pulled down ) for stating problems with their dumb impossible missions, that they didn't like or agreed with.. Well they missed out on my $100, and I'm sure they missed out on may more of it's members donation & supports in the game.  I say    >>>>>Shame on Them,  >>>>for once again >>>>  Getting it Wrong with all it's members,

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Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #30 Posted 25 November 2017 - 11:12 PM

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View PostBubba_Zanetti, on 25 November 2017 - 07:04 AM, said:

 

Maybe reread what Ace typed.  Nowhere does it say veteran or new player.  It says “Active player”.  Get over your crusade and move on.  Besides, this thread is pointless.  WG NA has no input on the game, and never has.

 

Reported: My threads and posts always have a point but it's not often apparent or even intentional...

 

 


Edited by Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo, 25 November 2017 - 11:13 PM.

if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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View PostAce_BOTlistic_Cosmo, on 25 November 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

 

Reported: My threads and posts always have a point but it's not often apparent or even intentional...

 

 

 

I meant in the context of WG actually reading or enacting upon it.  For FG2.0, or just as a general post, I'd say it's point on...please continue, I believe it's your turn. Pass or pick up trump.

 

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View PostBubba_Zanetti, on 25 November 2017 - 06:45 PM, said:

 

I meant in the context of WG actually reading or enacting upon it.  For FG2.0, or just as a general post, I'd say it's point on...please continue, I believe it's your turn. Pass or pick up trump.

 

the butterfly effect

 


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View Posttrikke, on 23 November 2017 - 05:40 PM, said:

 

quoted for truth 

 

in the deep past, if the excellent ideas weren't generated by the RU playerbase, then those ideas never happened 

 

probably nothing has changed?

 

and recently before it was released US players on WOWS demanded improvements on USS Alabama and got them.  So your statement might not be accurate.  

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View Postcomtedumas, on 26 November 2017 - 08:07 AM, said:

and recently before it was released US players on WOWS demanded improvements on USS Alabama and got them.  So your statement might not be accurate.  

 

that's good to hear!        is it the same coding team that works on wowp?


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View Posttrikke, on 26 November 2017 - 08:49 AM, said:

 

that's good to hear!        is it the same coding team that works on wowp?

 

well... no, but you don't have to smash and crush all my hopes and dreams either...

if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.


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View Posttrikke, on 26 November 2017 - 01:49 PM, said:

 

that's good to hear!        is it the same coding team that works on wowp?

 

When it comes to WoWp the term 'Three guys working out of a garage' may actually be close to the truth.

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When it comes to WoWp the term 'Three guys working out of a garage' may actually be close to the truth.

 

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View Posttrikke, on 26 November 2017 - 08:49 AM, said:

 

that's good to hear!        is it the same coding team that works on wowp?

 

don’t know, don’t care, it shows that WG does listen to players.  

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View Postcomtedumas, on 27 November 2017 - 01:56 AM, said:

 

don’t know, don’t care, it shows that WG does listen to players.  

 

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