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madgiecool #1 Posted 22 November 2017 - 10:59 AM

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Ty WG for another "too hard, I give up mission".

 

The amount of effort required to play an attack plane, get top player, and win is epic.  I gave the mission several attempts, and now I'm ranting.     :izmena:

 

IMHO any mission with the 'and' statement is generally going to be crap.  Adding the 'and win' generally makes the mission 'too hard' or 'reward not equal to effort', especially since the reward is a $250,000 credit item.

Some silly maths

 

Players, for $250,000 credits, play a few games in your prems and earn the credits and then buy whatever.  Playing 4 games in an attack plane and getting top player in 3 defeats is annoying as heck,which is why I'm putting this mission on top of the rubbish heap.  If the reward was better (e.g. hanger slot) I'ld be more inclined to 'give it another go'.  As above, I'ld rather grind $250K credits on planes that are more fun to fly (e.g can actually turn and not be so reliant on a tail gunner).

 

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pyantoryng #2 Posted 22 November 2017 - 01:09 PM

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Used to be much easier and can be done on daily basis but only rewards 1-3 tokens.

 

Now much harder but has 4 and 10 token types and gives straight free EXP instead of aircraft EXP...not sure if tradeoff is worth it.



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StoptheViolins #3 Posted 22 November 2017 - 01:14 PM

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I hate the earn 3k combat points without dying or the mission will reset.  It never seems to trip for me even when I rarely do a battle without dying.

Then there is the scale of tiers.. 40k of ground target damage is harder at T1-4 than T5-7.

Conal_Cochran #4 Posted 22 November 2017 - 01:58 PM

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You got a easier game now you want easier missions? 

pyantoryng #5 Posted 22 November 2017 - 02:04 PM

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View PostConal_Cochran, on 22 November 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

You got a easier game now you want easier missions? 

 

The harder game has easier missions...the easier game has harder missions...how ironic...

WoWP makes a great jousting game...especially with the 262 and people busy in furballs...
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LMG #6 Posted 22 November 2017 - 02:58 PM

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I agree that the reward could be better (I don't catch of fire enough to warrant me using that upgrade), but it's not impossible to complete with the way World of Botplanes works. If you get a good map (3 or more areas to capture in preferably an x layout relative to spawns), you can attempt to sneak around enemy lines and steal a couple of capture zones. Bots are predictable; they don't spawn on airfields/airbases and mostly attack the closest target to them, so just attack where they aren't looking at. Best case scenario, you get most of the zones and win the game. Worse case scenario, you still get some xp and credits for your troubles :coin:
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Helsemaine #7 Posted 22 November 2017 - 03:33 PM

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Winning the game, ranking in the top three and not dying once. Yeah those are missions I rarely complete.

 

The worst is when you have to get kills with a rear gunner. Ugh, I don't like many planes with rear gunners, so being forced to fly the same plane over and over trying to get wins, rank in top 3 and get kills with the rear gunner is something I would just not even bother with.



BrushWolf #8 Posted 22 November 2017 - 03:34 PM

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This has been a problem for a long time, the people that create the missions so rarely fly that they have no understanding of how the game really works.  :amazed:

Edited by BrushWolf, 22 November 2017 - 03:35 PM.

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Blucraft #9 Posted 22 November 2017 - 05:36 PM

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Coming from tanks...this game is super easy mode :amazed:.  Seems like they took a bit of Tanks and a bit of ships to make this game mode.  So far I like it.

 

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Edited by Blucraft, 22 November 2017 - 05:37 PM.


Pogo68 #10 Posted 22 November 2017 - 09:20 PM

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View Postpyantoryng, on 22 November 2017 - 05:09 AM, said:

Used to be much easier and can be done on daily basis but only rewards 1-3 tokens.

 

Now much harder but has 4 and 10 token types and gives straight free EXP instead of aircraft EXP...not sure if tradeoff is worth it.

 

It's not.

The token payoff is greater but if you do the math, you're looking at less than 1 token per day.

Sometimes it's 0.2 tokens a day.

I had a 10 token mission that based on a 60% win rate and 10 games a day, would take over 50 days to complete.

 

I did have a 14 air to air kill mission, thats 14 kills in tier 1-4, 14 kills in tier 5-7 and 14 kills in tier 8-10.

The tier 1-7 was easy, tier 8-18, not so much.

 


Edited by Pogo68, 23 November 2017 - 01:07 AM.

DICTA BOELCKE for WoWP
    1. Try to secure the upper hand before attacking.
    2. Always continue with an attack you have begun
    3. Open fire only at close range, and then only when the opponent is squarely in your sights
    4. You should always try to keep your eye on your opponent, and never let yourself be deceived by ruses
    5. In any type of attack, it is essential to assail your opponent from behind
    6. If your opponent dives on you, do not try run away from his attack, but fly to meet it
    7. When over the enemy's lines, always remember your own line of retreat
    8. It is better to attack in groups of four or six. Avoid two aircraft attacking the same opponent

ComradeZ #11 Posted 22 November 2017 - 10:57 PM

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My least favorite part of missions 'AND win the battle!'

 

I could be seal clubbing and get a dozen rewards...but then we lose because the bots are as smart as ring worms.



Mercsn #12 Posted 23 November 2017 - 12:09 AM

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View PostBrushWolf, on 22 November 2017 - 09:34 AM, said:

This has been a problem for a long time, the people that create the missions so rarely fly that they have no understanding of how the game really works.  :amazed:

 

The devs really don't play their own game.  I saw Priolia logged in as playing wowp on the discord, but I'm still convinced the devs have no idea how to play this game...either in its current iteration or the previous one (when I was still playing that).

All the Important Thread Links (go here for answers!) Might be outdated!

All-in-one thread with 2.0 related guide links.

 

The below was said to me (Mercsn), from a concerned player:

Edited, on 12 March - 2:01PM , said:

and PS...play more, forum less.  Your opinion might be more credible.

SithSteel #13 Posted 23 November 2017 - 03:01 AM

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It'd be nice if I could replace more than one mission per day.

Zigfreid #14 Posted 23 November 2017 - 03:41 AM

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View PostStoptheViolins, on 22 November 2017 - 07:14 AM, said:

I hate the earn 3k combat points without dying or the mission will reset. It never seems to trip for me even when I rarely do a battle without dying.

Then there is the scale of tiers.. 40k of ground target damage is harder at T1-4 than T5-7.

 

I for one like the harder missions, it is a challenge to push me.

The more they push me the better i get, the more i get rewarded.

The more i get rewarded, the harder i play and want more of a challenge.

The challenge in this game has pushed me to #2 in the Hall of Fame, and i like it.



Bear_82 #15 Posted 23 November 2017 - 03:57 AM

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View PostSithSteel, on 22 November 2017 - 08:01 PM, said:

It'd be nice if I could replace more than one mission per day.

 

prior to 2.0 we could replace one every 4 hours

SithSteel #16 Posted 23 November 2017 - 05:08 AM

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View PostBear_82, on 22 November 2017 - 10:57 PM, said:

 

prior to 2.0 we could replace one every 4 hours

 

That would be better.

WhimsicalPacifist #17 Posted 23 November 2017 - 02:26 PM

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View Postpyantoryng, on 22 November 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

Used to be much easier and can be done on daily basis but only rewards 1-3 tokens.

 

Now much harder but has 4 and 10 token types and gives straight free EXP instead of aircraft EXP...not sure if tradeoff is worth it.

 

Am I wrong in looking at the missions and thinking to get those tokens I need a Tier 8 to complete the mission for those tokens?  I just gave up on them completely.

BrushWolf #18 Posted 23 November 2017 - 10:11 PM

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View PostWhimsicalPacifist, on 23 November 2017 - 08:26 AM, said:

 

Am I wrong in looking at the missions and thinking to get those tokens I need a Tier 8 to complete the mission for those tokens?  I just gave up on them completely.

 

Correct, you need a 1 - 4, 5 - 7, and an 8 - 10 to complete all three parts for the tokens.

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