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Me 265: Grab the 30mm over 20mm cannons?


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HazeGrayUnderway #1 Posted 15 November 2017 - 02:46 AM

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Was curious to see if it's worthwhile to get the 30mm over the 20mm cannons.  On paper the DPS goes up but ROF and Range take serious nose dives, which is different from cannon upgrades I'm used to that get improved range.

Wombatmetal #2 Posted 15 November 2017 - 03:33 AM

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View PostHazeGrayUnderway, on 14 November 2017 - 06:46 PM, said:

Was curious to see if it's worthwhile to get the 30mm over the 20mm cannons.  On paper the DPS goes up but ROF and Range take serious nose dives, which is different from cannon upgrades I'm used to that get improved range.

 

I'm interested as well. The other thing I am curious about is how fast the 30s heat up over the 20s

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The 30mm have a lower muzzle velocity which makes them shorter in range and harder to aim. But that said, they do a decent amount of damage if you can hit with them. BUT there is a caveat, they are not suitable for ground targets due to their low muzzle velocity, the Mk.108 was intended to be used against heavy bombers not armored ground targets. I personally ditched the line and sold my 265, it's best used for killing other GAAs but there is really no reward for doing so anymore, and it struggles at best against hard ground targets.

 

A historical note, the ME.265 was actually designed as a heavy fighter to replace the failed Me.210. It lost out to the Me.410 since the 410 was easier to build and used a lot of the parts from the 210.



 

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vcharng #4 Posted 28 November 2017 - 08:48 AM

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Get the 30, you'll find yourself in a new world.

In practice, the 265 usually uses its guns almost entirely for soft targets (leave the hard targets to the bombs, and make sure you mastered your pilot's bomb damage skill), where overheating is not an issue at all. With visibly faster speeds it also needs some better instantaneous firepower to make sure you don't miss your (significantly-shorter-than-Ju88P) firing window.

If you think the 30 mil's range and velocity sucks when you are trying to hit a flying target, what are you gonna do when you made it to the 329? You can't stick with the 4x20mm with sucker firepower forever.



HazeGrayUnderway #5 Posted 04 December 2017 - 01:17 AM

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View Postvcharng, on 28 November 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

Get the 30, you'll find yourself in a new world.

In practice, the 265 usually uses its guns almost entirely for soft targets (leave the hard targets to the bombs, and make sure you mastered your pilot's bomb damage skill), where overheating is not an issue at all. With visibly faster speeds it also needs some better instantaneous firepower to make sure you don't miss your (significantly-shorter-than-Ju88P) firing window.

If you think the 30 mil's range and velocity sucks when you are trying to hit a flying target, what are you gonna do when you made it to the 329? You can't stick with the 4x20mm with sucker firepower forever.

 

I came back recently from a break away from the game.  Took up the 30s and they are indeed very good for the time on target you have with them.

Edited by HazeGrayUnderway, 04 December 2017 - 01:17 AM.





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