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Veroscis #1 Posted 26 October 2017 - 03:49 AM

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As question asks, I just want to know what their purpose in game is? What good are they? Who should they work with most? What should they be doing? Any specific targets that it should be focusing?

I know they aren't durable and seems to want to stay away from a 1v1 situation it can't win, that much I do know.

ramp4ge #2 Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:03 AM

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Shooting down the sector defense planes and any plane over an objective circle.

 

It generates an enormous amount of capture points very, very fast.



Snarky_Wombat #3 Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:20 AM

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A fighter is a very maneuverable plane but fights best at lower altitudes, think of it as a stinging insect you can't catch.  Go after the defense planes and enemy planes as much as you can, as Ramp4ge says, it's a great way to gain capture points plus helps the ground attack planes from getting shot up.

Your main goal is to clear the skies as much as you can when over a neutral or enemy base, and is the usually one of the best types of planes to defend your already secured sectors.  Use your maneuverability to dominate slower planes and achieve capture and defense points.

 

And as always, kill any planes that are on the tail of your slower team mates!

 

You'll get the hang of it pretty quickly, good luck!



Orion03 #4 Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:21 AM

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you should be able to take one a air defense fighter in a 1:1 situation and win. they are bots are you should shoot them down easily.

 

Select a "base" go for it, make sure you follow the herd, shoot the air defense fighters and take over the base, then follow the herd to the next base, or defend your base.



Veroscis #5 Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:35 AM

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Im getting dominated by medium / heavy fighters

Snarky_Wombat #6 Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:38 AM

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That can happen if you try to fly too high or fly to straight for too long.  Remember they cant shoot you if you are behind them (with the exception of tail gunners of course), be active and maneuver even if you just have a feeling that something might be there. 

 

Try not to go head on with heavy or multi-role fighters too, they have big guns that can shred you.  Again, use your agility to foul their shots and get behind them.

 

See how you go :)



Orion03 #7 Posted 26 October 2017 - 04:40 AM

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Fighters are light, multi-role and heavy.

 

The light fighters can turn tighter then the multirole or heavy. So get on their behind and shoot



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thank you all for the advice

 



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Happy battles Veroscis!  Feel free to look me up in game if you would like a somewhat noobish wingman :D

Orion03 #10 Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:08 AM

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Full on the brakes... turn

Pogo68 #11 Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:14 AM

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View PostVeroscis, on 25 October 2017 - 08:48 PM, said:

thank you all for the advice

 

 

By the way.

Most defensive guns don't fire directly above them, most not all.

Don't make head on attacks against anything with a cannon or more armor than you do.

 

Personally, I like to avoid tail end attacks against anything with a tail gun.

Then again the best way to avoid getting hit by my shots are if you put me directly at 6 and fly in a straight line.

Seriously, my deflection shots are a lot more accurate.

So I like to attack from the 2-4/7-10 line, or I'll hook under the heavy and hit them from below.

Old tactic from IL-1946/Aces over Europe, Falcon and LoMAC.


Edited by Pogo68, 26 October 2017 - 07:16 AM.

DICTA BOELCKE for WoWP
    1. Try to secure the upper hand before attacking.
    2. Always continue with an attack you have begun
    3. Open fire only at close range, and then only when the opponent is squarely in your sights
    4. You should always try to keep your eye on your opponent, and never let yourself be deceived by ruses
    5. In any type of attack, it is essential to assail your opponent from behind
    6. If your opponent dives on you, do not try run away from his attack, but fly to meet it
    7. When over the enemy's lines, always remember your own line of retreat
    8. It is better to attack in groups of four or six. Avoid two aircraft attacking the same opponent

_Bruiser_ #12 Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:46 AM

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All really good stuff so far.

 

Hold the TAB key before a battle starts, it'll tell you what you need to do in that aircraft class to gain combat points. It is a bit different per class. Doing those things will give you a grade. Grade puts you higher on the team after battle list and remember, combat points = credit score.

 

I'll mention it again also, saving your teamates from an enemy on their tail is huge, vital, and worth alot of those combat points. People and especially bots get focused in on an enemy once behind them, which makes an easy kill for you. Not to mention keeping your team alive while that dead enemy has to respawn and take a min or so to return to the fight.

 

Same as Snarky_Wombat, look me up in game if you wanna flight together.



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View PostSnarky_Wombat, on 25 October 2017 - 11:20 PM, said:

A fighter is a very maneuverable plane but fights best at lower altitudes, think of it as a stinging insect you can't catch.  Go after the defense planes and enemy planes as much as you can, as Ramp4ge says, it's a great way to gain capture points plus helps the ground attack planes from getting shot up.

Your main goal is to clear the skies as much as you can when over a neutral or enemy base, and is the usually one of the best types of planes to defend your already secured sectors.  Use your maneuverability to dominate slower planes and achieve capture and defense points.

 

And as always, kill any planes that are on the tail of your slower team mates!

 

You'll get the hang of it pretty quickly, good luck!

 

There are high-altitude fighters (Mig-15bis, F86a) that fights excellent battles in past patch. Now all fighters are the same, no energy, just turning and turning only to be shot down by bots which shoot laser

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View PostVeroscis, on 26 October 2017 - 03:49 AM, said:

As question asks, I just want to know what their purpose in game is? What good are they? Who should they work with most? What should they be doing? Any specific targets that it should be focusing?

I know they aren't durable and seems to want to stay away from a 1v1 situation it can't win, that much I do know.

 

When I play my light fighters, I have the most success defending friendly territory. Friendly AA and air defense planes are your allies, use them to tip dogfights in your favor. I definitely focus on ground attack planes, they will quickly turn the map red if you don't oppose of them. And if you have to push an enemy territory, do it as part of a group; escort friendly ground attack planes if you have to, just don't go at it alone.

 

As for the actual fighter combat, you might profit from learning some basic air combat maneuvers. I know I did.



Heibges #15 Posted 26 October 2017 - 05:05 PM

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I am thinking that my Spits/Zeros are more Base Defenders, while my US/German can better take part in Base Captures.


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Orion03 #16 Posted 28 October 2017 - 09:30 AM

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https://en.wikipedia...ghter_maneuvers



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View PostOrion03, on 28 October 2017 - 09:30 AM, said:

 

​My very first flight in a T-28, my instructor "demonstrated" a rolling scissors with another aircraft, pulled too hard and lost lost energy on the second pull up, then accidently popped the speed brake coming over the top....and I got to see my first ever inverted spin recovery!

 

Had no idea how much swearing is required! :D



hoom #18 Posted 01 November 2017 - 07:27 AM

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 Then again the best way to avoid getting hit by my shots are if you put me directly at 6 and fly in a straight line.

Seriously, my deflection shots are a lot more accurate.

 

I have the same damn problem.

Waaaaay back in the day playing X-wing Alliance the bots would fly along in a completely straight line for a while before turning, I'd miss salvo after salvo trying to hit them in a straight line then the instant they turn, bam insta-kill.

Flying through a max number AI furball I'd snap-shot multiple tie fighters no trouble, just not those damn straight-liners.

 

Have definitely experienced the same thing in this game.

 


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Heibges #19 Posted 02 November 2017 - 04:11 PM

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View PostTablecat, on 26 October 2017 - 07:46 AM, said:

 

When I play my light fighters, I have the most success defending friendly territory. Friendly AA and air defense planes are your allies, use them to tip dogfights in your favor. I definitely focus on ground attack planes, they will quickly turn the map red if you don't oppose of them. And if you have to push an enemy territory, do it as part of a group; escort friendly ground attack planes if you have to, just don't go at it alone.

 

As for the actual fighter combat, you might profit from learning some basic air combat maneuvers. I know I did.

 

I think you are right, and this is the role Persha has designed for them in 2.0 


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Pogo68 #20 Posted 02 November 2017 - 05:15 PM

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View PostEinssniper, on 26 October 2017 - 02:05 AM, said:

 

There are high-altitude fighters (Mig-15bis, F86a) that fights excellent battles in past patch. Now all fighters are the same, no energy, just turning and turning only to be shot down by bots which shoot laser

 

The MiG is better now than the -86.

Blame it on the Russian programmers nerfing the .50cals.


DICTA BOELCKE for WoWP
    1. Try to secure the upper hand before attacking.
    2. Always continue with an attack you have begun
    3. Open fire only at close range, and then only when the opponent is squarely in your sights
    4. You should always try to keep your eye on your opponent, and never let yourself be deceived by ruses
    5. In any type of attack, it is essential to assail your opponent from behind
    6. If your opponent dives on you, do not try run away from his attack, but fly to meet it
    7. When over the enemy's lines, always remember your own line of retreat
    8. It is better to attack in groups of four or six. Avoid two aircraft attacking the same opponent




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