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Einssniper #1 Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:09 AM

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I wrote this post as an example of what data on paper can be misleading. The tier X Javelin so far

is underperforming.

 

Its hitpoint is high, 1200 hp, highest of all 3 heavies, but that is offset by the large profile and susceptibility

to module damage. 

 

Its firepower has 1020 on paper, but that is a decrease from tier 9 to 10 since p228 has 4 head-mounted cannons

which are way more accurate. A Javelin, when head on, can be killed by a p228 with ease, when both are full hp.

 

Its speed has 1098 on paper, also the highest, but that is largely contributed to high climb rate. Notice its optimum speed: 617,

which is the lowest among all 3 heavies. Its speed characteristic is not good over 4500m, a mig or swift could catch it up with ease.

 

Maneuverability: 161, and 48 sec turning time. Whereas in real battles, it sucks at killing human me262hg3 player. The difference in

maneuverability is not so significant in high tier heavies. 

 

Altitude: 2600m, exaggerated. Indeed it should be 2400m considering how slow it accelerates in high altitude.

 

 



Einssniper #2 Posted 02 October 2017 - 08:12 AM

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Its twin as7 engines, when boosted, should produce nearly 100KN of thrust. On the contrary javelin does not have the engine advantage in game. It 

accelerates slowly and only has 25 sec boost.



pyantoryng #3 Posted 02 October 2017 - 12:04 PM

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Wing mounted weapons seem to be crap in the jet tier...the XF-90, IMO, suffers from the same problem, and coincidentally its predecessor, the Banshee, has nose guns as well.

WoWP makes a great jousting game...especially with the 262 and people busy in furballs...
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dityboycom #4 Posted 02 October 2017 - 01:25 PM

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Lol, who complains about a Javelin?

 

 



Einssniper #5 Posted 02 October 2017 - 07:28 PM

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View Postpyantoryng, on 02 October 2017 - 07:04 AM, said:

Wing mounted weapons seem to be crap in the jet tier...the XF-90, IMO, suffers from the same problem, and coincidentally its predecessor, the Banshee, has nose guns as well.

 

XF90 has speed at least, thought its guns overheat quickly; when a tier 10 cannot outrun a tier 9 heavy then it sucks

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View PostEinssniper, on 02 October 2017 - 04:09 AM, said:

I wrote this post as an example of what data on paper can be misleading. The tier X Javelin so far

is underperforming.

 

Its hitpoint is high, 1200 hp, highest of all 3 heavies, but that is offset by the large profile and susceptibility

to module damage. 

 

Its firepower has 1020 on paper, but that is a decrease from tier 9 to 10 since p228 has 4 head-mounted cannons

which are way more accurate. A Javelin, when head on, can be killed by a p228 with ease, when both are full hp.

 

Its speed has 1098 on paper, also the highest, but that is largely contributed to high climb rate. Notice its optimum speed: 617,

which is the lowest among all 3 heavies. Its speed characteristic is not good over 4500m, a mig or swift could catch it up with ease.

 

Maneuverability: 161, and 48 sec turning time. Whereas in real battles, it sucks at killing human me262hg3 player. The difference in

maneuverability is not so significant in high tier heavies. 

 

Altitude: 2600m, exaggerated. Indeed it should be 2400m considering how slow it accelerates in high altitude.

 

 

 

​Try Viagra.  I heard it will help your Javelin firepower.
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Gang_Starr #7 Posted 02 October 2017 - 09:45 PM

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The only posts I have ever seen from you are complaints about good planes "underperforming." The Javelin is OP, learn to play.

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Pogo68 #8 Posted 02 October 2017 - 11:57 PM

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View PostEinssniper, on 02 October 2017 - 11:28 AM, said:

 

XF90 has speed at least, thought its guns overheat quickly; when a tier 10 cannot outrun a tier 9 heavy then it sucks

 

 

Stop trying to accelerate while climbing.

You many want to try boosting with a slight nose down, 0 to -5 deg.


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    5. In any type of attack, it is essential to assail your opponent from behind
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Einssniper #9 Posted 03 October 2017 - 12:13 AM

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View PostGang_Starr, on 02 October 2017 - 04:45 PM, said:

The only posts I have ever seen from you are complaints about good planes "underperforming." The Javelin is OP, learn to play.

 

I'm saying relative stuff. Of course many planes can be "good" considering so many bots...

 

If you don't believe what I'm saying, try flying your javelin and I will fly my XF90, let's see


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View PostPogo68, on 02 October 2017 - 06:57 PM, said:

 

 

Stop trying to accelerate while climbing.

You many want to try boosting with a slight nose down, 0 to -5 deg.

 

That's a good tip, will try that

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View PostEinssniper, on 03 October 2017 - 12:13 AM, said:

 

I'm saying relative stuff. Of course many planes can be "good" considering so many bots...

 

If you don't believe what I'm saying, try flying your javelin and I will fly my XF90, let's see

 

Oh man thats a challenge , tell me what maps yous guy go to and Ill bring the popcorn . this will be good . set up a date and lets get some bets started . What are they gonna do kick us out for getting involved lol .

Einssniper #12 Posted 05 October 2017 - 01:20 AM

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View PostRarearth, on 03 October 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

 

Oh man thats a challenge , tell me what maps yous guy go to and Ill bring the popcorn . this will be good . set up a date and lets get some bets started . What are they gonna do kick us out for getting involved lol .

 

will be so good if more PVP can be implemented in this game. Nowadays most kills are made to the stupid bots, which virtually take no skill.

Bots Me262hg3 will fire at 800 meters, yep, and you can easily win head on with them



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View PostRarearth, on 03 October 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

 

Oh man thats a challenge , tell me what maps yous guy go to and Ill bring the popcorn . this will be good . set up a date and lets get some bets started . What are they gonna do kick us out for getting involved lol .

 

If WG bots reached the intelligence level of AlphaGo, then I would say different things

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View PostPogo68, on 02 October 2017 - 05:57 PM, said:

 

 

Stop trying to accelerate while climbing.

You many want to try boosting with a slight nose down, 0 to -5 deg.

 

So shines a good deed in a weary world*. 

 

Pogo - that advice is really spot on and applies to many, many planes.  

 

*Source: Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory


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View PostBobby_Tables, on 04 October 2017 - 10:01 PM, said:

 

So shines a good deed in a weary world*. 

 

Pogo - that advice is really spot on and applies to many, many planes.  

 

*Source: Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory

 

except XF90, in which you want vertical maneuver




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