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Rosebud #1 Posted 23 September 2017 - 03:12 PM

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   Lets face it, WoWP was going nowhere like it is. This is simply an attempt  by WG to shore up its weakest link. The problem is they tried to do it on the cheap. While they did improve the graphics via explosions, smoke and ground targets, they failed to do much of anything else. Simply turning the same maps 90 degrees, removing HUD items and changing victory conditions does not require much out of pocket expense. The main question is this...Is this WOWP better then the pre 2.0 WOWP? Is it a more attractive game? A game that will entice new players to participate?


 

    This is a question that most everyone who is on the forums now can not answer without bias (myself included.) We have spent many hours playing the pre 2.0 version, so we instinctually want it to be similar, but better. The problem is, that in many categories it is not. The most glaring is the lack of PvP it generates. The different classes of planes are so mission specific that you rarely engage another human. In fact, the nature of the missions makes eliminating BoTs far more important. They have further removed the one thing that many of us want the most, player versus player combat, just like the old days. I personally do not see that aspect becoming more robust playing 2.0. (I am extrapolating the numbers present when I played 2.0 to the current player base. Even with three to four human players per side the opportunities for PvP will be reduced...imo.)


 

     The glaring omission of 2.0 is clan wars. How expensive could it be to have added this game component? A component that is in their other games and has been promised for years. How does WG sweep from the table the number one suggestion for improvement from all of NA? Instead, they offer a game that I will have less interest in playing. It bears only a pale comparison to the game I still play and enjoy. Back when they added BoTs they reduced the human interaction of this game. With 2.0 they have reduced it once again. The strength of WoT and WoWS is the knowledge that you are playing other people. Remove that and this might as well be any flight game you can play solo. This is not a new beginning, this is the last nail in the coffin of a game whos bones will keep rattling until the other two die.


 

<0 WoWP  a great game and I thank you for your many hours of entertainment.



 


The_River_StyX_ #2 Posted 23 September 2017 - 03:16 PM

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Wow,,,, This was a great post -  had no Idea!

 

Thank you!


 


pyantoryng #3 Posted 23 September 2017 - 03:57 PM

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The tactical choices in Conquest made it clear that it was meant for humans to play it...the problem is, WG forgot to get more players in.

 

But...the damage had been done years ago, and nobody would touch WoWP with a 10-Light-Year pole.


Edited by pyantoryng, 23 September 2017 - 03:57 PM.


WoWP makes a great jousting game...especially with the 262 and people busy in furballs...
I am deaf, silent, and fly with unrealistic controls. Do not count on me to carry - my back's already broken from overweight.

TeamTerrence #4 Posted 23 September 2017 - 06:00 PM

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View Postpyantoryng, on 23 September 2017 - 03:57 PM, said:

The tactical choices in Conquest made it clear that it was meant for humans to play it...the problem is, WG forgot to get more players in.

 

But...the damage had been done years ago, and nobody would touch WoWP with a 10-Light-Year pole.

 

Indeed, one of WG's greatest strengths is their ability to drive players away.

 

Retaining them doesn't seem to be a concern, and for Warplanes they simply are not making any effort to attract fresh victims.

 

Granted yesterday the WG team attempted to gain support for their 2.0 but as expected not many showed up, personally I did 1 battle and left in disgust.

 

 

I am looking at this upcoming pvp mode that is planned to be added later to 2.0 and I am wondering who will be left at that point, that and will it be any good based on how poorly developed 2.0 is right now

 

Best we can do is try to keep in touch with each other and hopefully it is something players who are leaving or have already left will be interested in.

 

 

I'm not sure what can be said to reach these people....Its like Foghorn Leghorn trying to get through that blue bonnet on Prissy's head.

 

Nice people but I think their pilot lights went out. 

 



WONDER_SW #5 Posted 23 September 2017 - 09:30 PM

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Thanks WG when 2.0 comes out I won't be here no more 

Tapeworm12 #6 Posted 23 September 2017 - 11:20 PM

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Rosebud,

 

Your second paragraph sums up 2.0 very well.

 

They have lost sight of the reason people play a game like WOWP. They want to engage in aerial combat, dogfighting. 

 

There are several things going on during a match but they don't feel connected.

 

As a participant you feel detached from the match and are shooting down bots that fly around like drones waiting to be shot down.  Not very rewarding.

 

I am not certain what can be done to 2.0 to make it appealing as it is just boring.

 

A lot of bells and whistles with no real substance.

 

 

 

 



Vradin #7 Posted 24 September 2017 - 12:28 AM

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All very good points. I have very much the same take..... it "was" a PVP game at one time, later on bots were just used as a band-aid to fill positions that couldn't be filled by humans. However, we are at the juncture where bots are designed to be used as defenders(and bombers?)....not so PVP much anymore I guess, more PVE. It really takes away from the game unfortunately. :unsure:


Bobby_Tables #8 Posted 24 September 2017 - 01:34 AM

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View PostWONDER_SW, on 23 September 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

Thanks WG when 2.0 comes out I won't be here no more 

 

Awwwww...  sorry to read this.

 

 

 



SHOCKOJAMBO #9 Posted 24 September 2017 - 11:21 AM

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People are still playing this game?

pyantoryng #10 Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:20 PM

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View PostSHOCKOJAMBO, on 24 September 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

People are still playing this game?

 

If anything...it's a farm.

WoWP makes a great jousting game...especially with the 262 and people busy in furballs...
I am deaf, silent, and fly with unrealistic controls. Do not count on me to carry - my back's already broken from overweight.

TeamTerrence #11 Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:33 PM

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View Postpyantoryng, on 24 September 2017 - 08:20 PM, said:

 

If anything...it's a farm.

 

yup, a funny one

pyantoryng #12 Posted 24 September 2017 - 08:38 PM

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View PostTeamTerrence, on 24 September 2017 - 08:33 PM, said:

 

yup, a funny one

 

Old Wargaming got a farm...WO'RLD OF WARPLANES

And on that farm he had "free" prem[ium] time...WO'RLD OF WARPLANES

Can be used in Tanks, Can be used in Ships

Not to mention free EXP that can be used in Tanks

Old Wargaming got a farm...WO'RLD OF WARPLANES


Edited by pyantoryng, 24 September 2017 - 08:38 PM.


WoWP makes a great jousting game...especially with the 262 and people busy in furballs...
I am deaf, silent, and fly with unrealistic controls. Do not count on me to carry - my back's already broken from overweight.

Bubba_Zanetti #13 Posted 24 September 2017 - 09:58 PM

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