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mustangman6579 #1 Posted 08 September 2017 - 04:57 AM

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So as the day dragged on, away from prime time. I had noticed a lot more bots in my game. Till the point where it was only about 2-4 players on each team. 

Ok, that's fine. I know how that goes. 

 

But as soon as this started, I had 10 losses in a row, BECAUSE MY BOT PLAYERS WERE OVERMATCHED. 10 losses in a row. 9 out of 10 times I was the last, or second to last alive. so that means, out of the 10 losses, 9 were 100% because the bots on my team couldn't hold their own. 

I had to quit playing. Matches were barely lasting 4 minutes and all were completely lopsided. Meaning we were lucky to have downed 2 planes. 

 

If you are gonna fill the games up with bots, then maybe, just maybe, they should be balanced? 


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MARS_REVENANT #2 Posted 08 September 2017 - 05:09 AM

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View Postmustangman6579, on 07 September 2017 - 11:57 PM, said:

So as the day dragged on, away from prime time. I had noticed a lot more bots in my game. Till the point where it was only about 2-4 players on each team. 

Ok, that's fine. I know how that goes. 

 

But as soon as this started, I had 10 losses in a row, BECAUSE MY BOT PLAYERS WERE OVERMATCHED. 10 losses in a row. 9 out of 10 times I was the last, or second to last alive. so that means, out of the 10 losses, 9 were 100% because the bots on my team couldn't hold their own. 

I had to quit playing. Matches were barely lasting 4 minutes and all were completely lopsided. Meaning we were lucky to have downed 2 planes. 

 

If you are gonna fill the games up with bots, then maybe, just maybe, they should be balanced? 

 

A landslide happens to everyone, but I have never seen it happen 10 games in a row...  Post replay files.

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Bobby_Tables #3 Posted 08 September 2017 - 06:30 AM

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Reply deleted due to incorporating several vicious attacks, faux pas, and general crudity.  It was funny, but not appropriate.  

 

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mustangman6579 #4 Posted 08 September 2017 - 09:17 AM

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I can't find the folder. maybe I don't even have them checked on?

pyantoryng #5 Posted 08 September 2017 - 10:32 AM

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View Postmustangman6579, on 08 September 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

I can't find the folder. maybe I don't even have them checked on?

 

Replay files for WoWP are saved to My Documents/Video assuming you have it turned on...for some reason it cannot be changed outside of changing My Documents directory itself.

 

...and at low tier bots are so weak that they tend to get to get mowed by half-decent player...It falls to you to mow them before they mow you down. It's a different story in mid and high tiers however...



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Steel_bomber_ #6 Posted 08 September 2017 - 12:48 PM

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You have 66 battles!

Stop crying and learn to shoot the easiest bots (tiers 1 till 4) in the game first.

I agree bots make this game extremely boring, but in the higher tiers they sometimes are harder to fight. 


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oldiowaguy #7 Posted 08 September 2017 - 12:52 PM

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Or it could be the current game got stale and there is a possibility of losing your progress when 2.0 comes.

                                                                    

 


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View Postoldiowaguy, on 08 September 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

Or it could be the current game got stale and there is a possibility of losing your progress when 2.0 comes.

 

I really don't care about progress, I just hope the game will get better.

But we all have seen what happens when WG tries to improve gameplay, it gets worse every time.

 

The psychological test continues, how long will humans take their crap......... 


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mustangman6579 #9 Posted 08 September 2017 - 01:58 PM

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View Postpyantoryng, on 08 September 2017 - 10:32 AM, said:

 

Replay files for WoWP are saved to My Documents/Video assuming you have it turned on...for some reason it cannot be changed outside of changing My Documents directory itself.

 

...and at low tier bots are so weak that they tend to get to get mowed by half-decent player...It falls to you to mow them before they mow you down. It's a different story in mid and high tiers however...

 

Yea, most of the games I was playing an attack bomber, so i was very dependent on the bots. 

MelBrooks #10 Posted 08 September 2017 - 02:06 PM

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Re-spawning and unlimited ordinance with re-load times will end it for me. This game appealed to me because of the " one and done " on lives during a match. Most people I know will retire their flight suits, if they have not already, once this gets here. Nothing personal, that type of gaming just does not appeal to me.

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Yagos2k16 #11 Posted 08 September 2017 - 02:31 PM

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Don't count on bots carrying a game for you, They suck. all of them

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View PostMelBrooks, on 08 September 2017 - 09:06 AM, said:

Re-spawning and unlimited ordinance with re-load times will end it for me. This game appealed to me because of the " one and done " on lives during a match. Most people I know will retire their flight suits, if they have not already, once this gets here. Nothing personal, that type of gaming just does not appeal to me.

 

​I kinda like Respawning, more chances to shoot the same bots down ;)

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View Postmustangman6579, on 08 September 2017 - 05:58 AM, said:

 

Yea, most of the games I was playing an attack bomber, so i was very dependent on the bots. 

 

If you were in an attack plane, thats part of the problem. That is the hardest class of planes to win in. Also, just focusing on ground targets is not going to get you the win more often than not. You need to help your team a bit by killing some enemy planes, then once your team has a good advantage, then go after ground targets. Unless you have some good humans that are not in ground attack planes(ga), then you can go after ground targets and have a better chance of winning. Thats just the way its going to be if you are going to mostly play ga's.

I prefer to have more of an influence in the game regardless of what I am flying, but I prefer to not fly ground attack planes.

 


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View PostMARS_REVENANT, on 08 September 2017 - 12:09 AM, said:

 

A landslide happens to everyone, but I have never seen it happen 10 games in a row...  Post replay files.

 

Ten is extreme but when I logged in last weekend I ended up logging off after three, yes three matches as the only human vs a flight. You can guess how well that went particularly with how rusty I am and they were all blow outs in favor of the red team.

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View Postmustangman6579, on 08 September 2017 - 01:58 PM, said:

 

Yea, most of the games I was playing an attack bomber, so i was very dependent on the bots. 

 

That's where the problem is. These days due to homing bots that come to you no matter how well you hide means that fighters are much more influential than in human age where attack aircraft could pace their destruction and hide well to win the match from a losing odd...much harder to do in the age of bots. Besides, the bots are less vulnerable to the tailgate bomb than humans do.



WoWP makes a great jousting game...especially with the 262 and people busy in furballs...
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View PostYagos2k16, on 08 September 2017 - 10:31 AM, said:

Don't count on bots carrying a game for you, They suck. all of them

 

​If you are a human and aren't good enough to carry battles in tiers 1-4 vs NOOB bots then the issue is you.

 

I agree bots suck and determine many games but not so much in the low tiers.


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View PostPsicko23, on 08 September 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

 

If you were in an attack plane, thats part of the problem. That is the hardest class of planes to win in. Also, just focusing on ground targets is not going to get you the win more often than not. You need to help your team a bit by killing some enemy planes, then once your team has a good advantage, then go after ground targets. Unless you have some good humans that are not in ground attack planes(ga), then you can go after ground targets and have a better chance of winning. Thats just the way its going to be if you are going to mostly play ga's.

I prefer to have more of an influence in the game regardless of what I am flying, but I prefer to not fly ground attack planes.

 

 

theres an old saying,youve got  to learn to walk before you can run

its a well used saying but the best  sayings usually are!

I must of played a 1000+ games in tier 1 before moving up a tier(probably too many)

its like  psicko  said if you want to be in charge of your destiny ,attack aircraft are not the answer.

in tier 1 bots  90% of the time are canon fodder,if flying the correct aircraft and rightly so!

the game is designed like this to bring new players,(like yourself) a better chance of learning the game,and improving your skills

I wish you happy and less stressful flying,try the jap 91 plane

cheers

sorry, ground attack aircraft are not the answer!
 


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ParanoiaXtreme_PRX #18 Posted 08 September 2017 - 04:32 PM

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Am i supposed to be surprised or what? 'cause that happens all the time. I just fly high and do all the SH1T myself

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FORGET THE BOTS... FEAR THE ADMINS?... Then

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It isn't that the bots are unbalanced but once the first bot goes down it is like a house of cards collapsing. Add in the random crashing they can turn won matches into ugly losses.

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