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ParanoiaXtreme_PRX #1 Posted 06 August 2017 - 03:48 AM

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With the low player base, i understand why bots were added. So that we can have fuller matches. But the problem lies in the fact that when you have just 1 or 2 players (which is most commonly found in higher or extreme low tiers of course) per team, and the other 3/4 of each team is filled with bots, the game is not about players skill. I find myself up against very low quality pilots flying GA's while i'm flying a fairly decent light, or heavy fighter, but they get the super bots just 'cause even though on a 1 vs 1 I would have easily won. And VV. I'm getting matches won where other players should be beating my [edited]but no, for one reason or another, they get targeted first thing by half of my bots. I understand we don't want to go back the 3 vs 3 days, but there needs to be significant improvement on bot gameplay. I have a few suggestions and please, if anyone else has ideas PLEASE DO SHARE.

 

1. Make bots follow almost every command given by any player.

2. Have a team vote before the match begins on a lead human player to call the shots. whatever that player commands bots to do, they do without question (side note: this would obviously require more time put into the specifics of being able to control a certain bot, or a flight of a few bots together to complete a task.) also, you would not be able to vote for yourself

 

 


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Omega_Weapon #2 Posted 06 August 2017 - 04:39 AM

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The fail bots and super bots are problematic, but I wouldn't go as far as you suggest. Just tone down their offensive skills, and buff their survival skills. The main problem is that the bots on one side usually get wiped out before the human players had enough time to influence the match. If the majority of the bots can just stay alive longer, humans should end up being the deciding factor most of the time.

lurpmaster #3 Posted 06 August 2017 - 01:32 PM

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:hiding: Good post guys both are correct I can't count the number of times I have went int the game only to have all bots dead o my team except one or to heavy's that don't care about the 8 or 10 enemy bots swarming them lol, they just keep ground pounding and will not engage even the enemy dead in front of them.  It often takes a half hour to hour of game play before you get lucky enough to get a win. this is frustrating when you are trying to get your X's out of the way

and it seems not to really matter what tier you go to the results are repeated over and over again.  Being a cranky old man I often rage and tell my bots how very dumb they are lol it does no good thought the the cross talk between the bots can be funny at times I end up taking a break then go back to the game.  But all in all I agree they do need to work on the bots and tone down the super bots a bit to balance the game more.



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View PostOmega_Weapon, on 06 August 2017 - 04:39 AM, said:

The fail bots and super bots are problematic, but I wouldn't go as far as you suggest. Just tone down their offensive skills, and buff their survival skills. The main problem is that the bots on one side usually get wiped out before the human players had enough time to influence the match. If the majority of the bots can just stay alive longer, humans should end up being the deciding factor most of the time.

 

That's a very good idea and would probably be way easier to change in game than my other thoughts. and true

BrushWolf #5 Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:07 PM

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View PostOmega_Weapon, on 05 August 2017 - 11:39 PM, said:

The fail bots and super bots are problematic, but I wouldn't go as far as you suggest. Just tone down their offensive skills, and buff their survival skills. The main problem is that the bots on one side usually get wiped out before the human players had enough time to influence the match. If the majority of the bots can just stay alive longer, humans should end up being the deciding factor most of the time.

 

The bots are only consistent in one thing, being inconsistent.

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ParanoiaXtreme_PRX #6 Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:15 PM

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View PostBrushWolf, on 06 August 2017 - 07:07 PM, said:

 

The bots are only consistent in one thing, being inconsistent.

 

nope. they're consistently lop-sided

Bubba_Zanetti #7 Posted 06 August 2017 - 07:38 PM

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One of the positives of bots versus humans, you don't have them going off to bomb targets in their multi roles/heavies or wandering off to a corner of the map (Although a handful of times I've seen bots bizarrely wander away from the group).  They're not perfect, but some of the 15v15 multitier human matches had you shaking your head at times as well.  You still see it now with new players, but bots offset it somewhat.

 

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you lot are nuts nothing will change so why try

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View PostParanoiaXtreme_PRX, on 06 August 2017 - 02:15 PM, said:

 

nope. they're consistently lop-sided

 

That is the inconsistency.

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