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Troika #1 Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:16 PM

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Same tier single engines can keep up with it in a climb and most of the other same tier planes are faster and more agile :S

ArrowZ_ #2 Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:44 PM

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If you think this one is bad, try the hornet. 

 


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mnbv_fockewulfe #3 Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:52 PM

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395 battles is hardly enough to be an expert at T7.

Don't expect great things until you have more experience.

You're probably climbing at the wrong angle and without enough boost.

Learn to conserve your energy and you'll learn to out climb even those anti-heavy-fighter-aircraft like the P-47s.


 

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Dru83 #4 Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:56 PM

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1. It's a heavy everything is more agile than it, except for Attack aircraft.

2. Faster in a straight line, yes, faster while you're diving through the furball, not so much.

3. Others climb better, sure, that's why you shouldn't climb near other planes, speed away while flying level or diving first.


 

It has its issues, sure, but it's a wicked looking plane and fun to fly. Besides, once you're done with it, you get to move on to one of the craziest planes ever.


 

Honestly, I think I had more issues with my shots not hitting planes then I ever did with freaking out about it's performance/maneuverability.


 



Psicko23 #5 Posted 16 June 2017 - 12:52 AM

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 Not to be mean,  but the problem is not the plane, but you. You only have a few hundred battles after the game went live. Even if you played a lot before release, so much has changed and will be different. The problem seems to be rushing up the tiers, and by the looks of it, using free xp from tanks to go through the tiers. If you aren't doing well overall in lower tiers, chances are that you are not going to do well in higher tiers. Slow down and learn the game. Tier 4 or 5 should be good. Flight up with someone who knows the game well and can teach you. 

pyantoryng #6 Posted 16 June 2017 - 02:50 AM

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View PostArrowZ_, on 15 June 2017 - 11:44 PM, said:

If you think this one is bad, try the hornet. 

 

 

F7F has lots of guns while the Z has powerful ones and being more maneuverable...The Hornet has neither...

 

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109Z is the best HF at tier 7

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scipionmk #8 Posted 16 June 2017 - 07:33 AM

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Every plane in the game and in a RL has advantages and disadvantages. Fly them all and you will learn how to use them.

Consumables and equipment alltogether with a pilot skills can make things even more interesting.



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Equipment: aircraft polish, improved cowering and your choice

Consumables: fire estinguisher, engine ventilation and your preference

Pilot skills: engine guru I and II, aerodinamic expert are must


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View PostTroika, on 15 June 2017 - 06:16 PM, said:

Same tier single engines can keep up with it in a climb and most of the other same tier planes are faster and more agile :S

 

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View Postscipionmk, on 16 June 2017 - 07:41 AM, said:

 

Equipment: aircraft polish, improved cowering and your choice

Consumables: fire estinguisher, engine ventilation and your preference

Pilot skills: engine guru I and II, aerodinamic expert are must

 

...that one belongs to WoWS...:trollface:

WoWP makes a great jousting game...especially with the 262 and people busy in furballs...
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View Postmnbv_fockewulfe, on 15 June 2017 - 07:52 PM, said:


 

Oh my, I'm turning into losttwo! :ohmy:

 

It makes one think ! :teethhappy:

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Mackunaima #13 Posted 16 June 2017 - 01:19 PM

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View PostGang_Starr, on 16 June 2017 - 12:46 AM, said:

109Z is the best HF at tier 7

 


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MARS_REVENANT #14 Posted 16 June 2017 - 01:35 PM

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View PostMackunaima, on 16 June 2017 - 08:19 AM, said:

 

 

LOL... Its true though... 109Z is OP, but not by much.  Can be taken out by people that know what they are doing.

 

I saw you in game last night, looks like you got your computer fixed?

 

When you going to leave WHAWK?  ArrowZ_ left, are you going to stay there by yourself?  You might want to check out BAGG, I have it on good authority that Gouldy is starting it back up.


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View PostMARS_REVENANT, on 16 June 2017 - 10:35 AM, said:

 

LOL... Its true though... 109Z is OP, but not by much.  Can be taken out by people that know what they are doing.

 

I saw you in game last night, looks like you got your computer fixed?

 

When you going to leave WHAWK?  ArrowZ_ left, are you going to stay there by yourself?  You might want to check out BAGG, I have it on good authority that Gouldy is starting it back up.

 

Oh yeah man, I fixed it yesterday, was holiday here in Brazil. But my notebook barelly can handle the graphs.. everything is low or very low settings, I can't see th water.. again...

 

I played 3 battles, but i did using mouse, was too late in the night to pick my JS out from the box. But this morning I did set it and played a few more battles.

 

Was not good to notice Im very rusty with shaking hands... lol

Problably Im going to need a couple weeks and a few beers to improve my hands stability back.. :trollface:

 

Yeah I saw BAGG is coming back, old slumdogs... IDK if Im going to leave WHAWK, they r good guys too, but if I do, they are going to know first.. 

 

Are u also going to join BAGG too?


Edited by Mackunaima, 16 June 2017 - 02:04 PM.

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View PostMackunaima, on 16 June 2017 - 09:03 AM, said:

 

Yeah I saw BAGG is coming back, old slumdogs... IDK if Im going to leave WHAWK, they r good guys too, but if I do, they are going to know first.. 

 

Are u also going to join BAGG too?

 

I have not received an invite.


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View PostArrowZ_, on 15 June 2017 - 06:44 PM, said:

If you think this one is bad, try the hornet. 

 

 

In many ways it is very bad, it lives and dies playing the stalling game which against humans can be a problem. I never liked it in closed beta and still don't like it.

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View PostTroika, on 15 June 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

Same tier single engines can keep up with it in a climb and most of the other same tier planes are faster and more agile :S

 

The Bf 109 Z is a heavy fighter and as such not very agile. It is a fast plane though and a good BnZ plane, as it performs well at high altitude, just don't go super low in it. Do you have a replay?


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View Postx_WARHOG_x, on 16 June 2017 - 02:08 AM, said:

 

:facepalm:

 

If light fighters are keeping up with you, that means you don't know how to fly.  Also, you should runs the plane with all 20's for maximum accuracy and damage potential.  The Z is the only heavy beast at the tier and its as good as a 410 minus the rocket.  Just learn to fly it.

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