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Dave12w #1 Posted 05 June 2017 - 03:15 AM

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I'd be interested to hear impressions of the two new lines from

those that have flown them.

 

I only have the tier 9 Russian I-211, it seems competitive for its

tier, though low altitude it can out turn all but light fighters which

it can out run.  I have the 2nd Gun upgrade, they do a lot of 

damage in short bursts, though you need be at very close range 500m or less,

so similar to the Xp-58, I don't know if the top gun upgrade will be similar.


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scipionmk #2 Posted 05 June 2017 - 04:11 AM

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I like first guns/canons on a I-211. They have bigger ROF and shooting looks like in a new jap line tier 9. I do prefer it more than slower ROF traded for higher distance.

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Here are a few games with the Tier 8 BV P.210 I won tonight.

 

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Looks like a keeper the BV.o201, I question your song selection though,

you can only tolerate "I'm a little tea pot" for so long. :) by the looks of it

it fly's like the ta183 with the 2nd gun upgrade



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the new german Blohm and Voss planes SUCK until you get the upgraded cannons, then they are OP.

 

I got the tier 9 BV P.212.03 on friday and proceeded to lose 7 games in a row because i couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with it till i managed to scrounge enough free exp late sunday night to buy the upgraded cannon, then BOOM: 6 kill ace without hardly working for it... i couldn't miss and everything in front of me melted away in seconds. The accuracy, ROF, and muzzle velocity of the upgraded cannons are better, but also the stock cannons fire in a cluster where the upgraded ones fire in sequence, making it much harder for enemy aircraft to slip between shots - hits land like they were from a British 20mm, but with more damage. expect these guns to be nerfed in upcoming patches.

 

I did better with the tier 8 P.210 (which i won on saturday), probably because it has a comparative speed advantage in tier 8 that the line loses in tier 9 as other aircraft become faster. So in tier 8 it is easy enough to get close enough to enemy a/c that the crappy stock cannons can occasionally hit something. however, i was still unable to take down more than 2 enemy planes per game (plus some assists). I haven't taken it for a spin with the upgraded cannons yet (a single upgraded cannon in the line upgrades the whole BV line, which is sweet). I was lucky in that i already had the upgraded engines from other aircraft.

 

pluses for the BV planes include the roll rate, which is pretty exceptional for those tiers, and boost cool down is pretty quick too. But watch out, the turn rate is not as good as the maneuverability rating would lead you to believe - the high roll rate seems to affect the maneuverability number a lot. roll rate is good for dodging bot guns tho (bots are not good at anticipating roll, even constant rolling)

 

I like the Su-9 (finished a mission for it on saturday) a fair bit, but i suspect i am not fully versed in its negatives yet as i was given 2 relatively easy matches the 2 times i played it. it did better at altitude than i thought it would, tho you won't be chasing down well flown BnZ heavies with it. i haven't gotten to upgrade to the 45mm main gun, but the stock 37mm and the upgraded 23mms hit reasonably hard and are accurate enough to satisfy me. just keep in mind the 23mms have a longer range than the 37mm, so if you start shooting when your reticule first says you can at long range, your big gun will be overheated before it is in range. the 45 mm has a range more in line with the upgraded 23mms.

 

 


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I finally got the I-211 (not flown it yet)...not sure if it's going to work for me because I can't hit things worth a dang with big guns...

 

BTW, F5U also gets revolver 20mms at tier 8, and four of those to boot. Are those more powerful round-to-round, or more accurate...or both?


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If you think the B&V P.210 is weak it's because you're doing it wrong. She's a combination of the German heavy playstyle and the J7 series tactics - it's a very strange mindset but very successful. Also, guns are not the main weapons on this bird. Learn to use the rockets, they're absolutely amazing on this plane. I'm currently sitting at 74 battles and 39 rocketeer ribbons. That's slightly better than 1 ribbon per 2 battles. If I'm not mistaken, that's a server high ratio for a significant (over 50) battle count.

 

 

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View PostGeorgePatton, on 05 June 2017 - 02:46 PM, said:

If you think the B&V P.210 is weak it's because you're doing it wrong. She's a combination of the German heavy playstyle and the J7 series tactics - it's a very strange mindset but very successful. Also, guns are not the main weapons on this bird. Learn to use the rockets, they're absolutely amazing on this plane. I'm currently sitting at 74 battles and 39 rocketeer ribbons. That's slightly better than 1 ribbon per 2 battles. If I'm not mistaken, that's a server high ratio for a significant (over 50) battle count.

 

 

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People are not used to fighting against this plane, so they think they can head-on longer than they should.  Then rockets.

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View PostMARS_REVENANT, on 05 June 2017 - 02:56 PM, said:

 

People are not used to fighting against this plane, so they think they can head-on longer than they should.  Then rockets.

 

Rockets at 1200m for h2h. 500m for angle-off shots. 30m AGL for area blast on GA.

 

 

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Wait there's a new german line now? how does it compare to the Fw line?

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It branches off at tier 8 from the FW line - it's absolutely a dream to fly the tier 8, don't have the 9 or 10 yet as you have to get lucky with a crate for them... Check out my stats on the B&V P.210 to see how I do in it!

 

 

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View PostGeorgePatton, on 05 June 2017 - 08:53 PM, said:

Check out my stats on the B&V P.210 to see how I do in it!

 

Stats have 0 weight anymore, the bots are dumb and the game is too easy. The plane does look fun though judging from Marco's replay.

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View PostGang_Starr, on 05 June 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

 

Stats have 0 weight anymore, the bots are dumb and the game is too easy. The plane does look fun though judging from Marco's replay.

 

I'm not sure you know how stats work.  OP planes will kill more dumb bots that garbage planes.


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i got the BV P.212.03 tier IX German Multi-Role Fighter. So far I really like it a lot with the 2x30mm cannon along with the speed and quick turns. the turns are wide, about the same as the Ta 152 but has a comfortable roll rate so it can switch direction quickly. Overall, it feels like a well balanced aircraft and i think it'll fit in well with the other planes of the tier



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View PostGang_Starr, on 05 June 2017 - 08:45 PM, said:

 

Stats have 0 weight anymore, the bots are dumb and the game is too easy. The plane does look fun though judging from Marco's replay.

 


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View PostMARS_REVENANT, on 06 June 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

 

 

Ya damn right!

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View PostGeorgePatton, on 05 June 2017 - 02:46 PM, said:

If you think the B&V P.210 is weak it's because you're doing it wrong. She's a combination of the German heavy playstyle and the J7 series tactics - it's a very strange mindset but very successful. Also, guns are not the main weapons on this bird. Learn to use the rockets, they're absolutely amazing on this plane. I'm currently sitting at 74 battles and 39 rocketeer ribbons. That's slightly better than 1 ribbon per 2 battles. If I'm not mistaken, that's a server high ratio for a significant (over 50) battle count.

 

 

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Rockets can be easily avoided by effective maneuver even in a h2h attack; once you can avoid Soloshooter's head on rockets, you can avoid all others'

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View PostEinssniper, on 11 June 2017 - 05:41 AM, said:

 

Rockets can be easily avoided by effective maneuver even in a h2h attack; once you can avoid Soloshooter's head on rockets, you can avoid all others'

 

Have you played against the BV in the hands of a decent pilot? A pilot who knows how to use rockets? Head to head, sure, you can avoid, but you'll get a belly full of lead for it... If you're maneuvering to avoid any other opponents, you won't see them coming...

 

 

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R4Ms now fire in salvos of 8...which means outside of the top BV you have exactly 3 shots...

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