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Einssniper #21 Posted 14 May 2017 - 12:06 PM

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View Postscipionmk, on 14 May 2017 - 07:04 AM, said:

Tier 9 only with 20mm. 30mm heat fast and accuracy is off for me. 30mm are good only at the end of battle against GAA.

20mm configuration has good maneuverability and enough fire power against lights and multiroles. I will say mediocre.

Tier 10 need love. I like it when RoF was not an issue just before the nerf.

 

Agreed, I'm comfortable with the 20mm on TA183 but 30mm, hell no! it's accuracy is even worse than those on me262..

Einssniper #22 Posted 14 May 2017 - 12:09 PM

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View Post20thCenturyLtd, on 13 May 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

Replace: No

 

Add: Yes

 

branched out at t9, like the f94d and f6u

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View PostGouIdy, on 13 May 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

It is most likely that Persha won't replace any planes in a line that has already been released but they have a habit of buffing/nerfing planes & the TA line might see some love in the future. The thing is they don't share their plans until shortly before or at release.

 

let's buff back its altitude to 3000m and make it an eagle rather than a squirrel

Einssniper #24 Posted 14 May 2017 - 12:17 PM

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View PostGang_Starr, on 13 May 2017 - 05:17 PM, said:

The tiers 8, 9 and 10 in that line are awesome, and got a buff a few patches ago. Nothing needs to be replaced, just git gud.

 

View PostDave12w, on 14 May 2017 - 12:38 AM, said:

I like the tier 10 fw252, I do quite well in it

 

Almost any plane is good against bots; even they are good against humans, if few can use it well, we can't say it's a good aircraft.

Gang_Starr #25 Posted 15 May 2017 - 02:25 AM

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View Postscipionmk, on 14 May 2017 - 03:04 AM, said:

Tier 9 only with 20mm. 30mm heat fast and accuracy is off for me. 30mm are good only at the end of battle against GAA.

20mm configuration has good maneuverability and enough fire power against lights and multiroles. I will say mediocre.

Tier 10 need love. I like it when RoF was not an issue just before the nerf.

 

Using the 20mm's on the tier 9 is a waste, if you do that then the plane just becomes a bad Me P.1092. The 30s are what make this plane great.

Source: have best winrate in that plane on the server, all solo.

 

View PostEinssniper, on 14 May 2017 - 08:17 AM, said:

 

 

if few can use it well, we can't say it's a good aircraft.

 

What we can say is, learn how to use it correctly.


Edited by Gang_Starr, 15 May 2017 - 02:31 AM.

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View PostGang_Starr, on 15 May 2017 - 03:25 AM, said:

 

Using the 20mm's on the tier 9 is a waste, if you do that then the plane just becomes a bad Me P.1092. The 30s are what make this plane great.

Source: have best winrate in that plane on the server, all solo.

 

 

What we can say is, learn how to use it correctly.

 

With a PING I play with 130+ is complicated you would think is. Shooting with a such high ping rate is a tricky one. Sometime I must shoot way ahead to get hits. Canons could be night mare, with 20mm is much easier. 

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View Postscipionmk, on 15 May 2017 - 08:45 AM, said:

 

With a PING I play with 130+ is complicated you would think is. Shooting with a such high ping rate is a tricky one. Sometime I must shoot way ahead to get hits. Canons could be night mare, with 20mm is much easier. 

 

I understand that but when we are discussing plane balance and potential needed buffs we can't be taking into account things like ping. The plane is a beast with the 30mm's, if a player cannot use the 30s because of lag or because it's harder to aim then it isn't the plane's fault. 


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View Postscipionmk, on 15 May 2017 - 12:45 PM, said:

 

With a PING I play with 130+ is complicated you would think is. Shooting with a such high ping rate is a tricky one. Sometime I must shoot way ahead to get hits. Canons could be night mare, with 20mm is much easier. 

 

agreed, with nearly 300ms ping I can only use the 20mm well. The 30mm is only good when I am back to States

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View PostGang_Starr, on 15 May 2017 - 04:43 PM, said:

 

I understand that but when we are discussing plane balance and potential needed buffs we can't be taking into account things like ping. The plane is a beast with the 30mm's, if a player cannot use the 30s because of lag or because it's harder to aim then it isn't the plane's fault. 

 

Indeed I'm okay with the guns of FW252, at least better than the TA183's. It used to be an eagle and capable of doing vertical maneuver at 5000m, but since the altitude nerf it becomes less capable

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View PostGang_Starr, on 15 May 2017 - 04:43 PM, said:

 

I understand that but when we are discussing plane balance and potential needed buffs we can't be taking into account things like ping. The plane is a beast with the 30mm's, if a player cannot use the 30s because of lag or because it's harder to aim then it isn't the plane's fault. 

 

It's far from being bad but just mediocre: it loses to F7U at horizontal BnZ; it loses to Swift at mid-altitude performance; it loses to mig-15bis at high altitude. It just lacks any special traits except being german and the BMW engine, which would be so much better if placed on me p1101

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Since the deletion of this plane is almost impossible, let us consider the 2 options: either buff the altitude or make a second branch at tier 9 and add a new plane, to make this line stronger

Edited by Einssniper, 17 May 2017 - 12:54 PM.


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View PostEinssniper, on 14 May 2017 - 12:11 PM, said:

 

let's buff back its altitude to 3000m and make it an eagle rather than a squirrel

 

WG surely will not buff back its attitude to 3000m, as if buff back to 3000m, XF90, 262HG3 and Javelin will no more benefit XD

But FW252 should offer the same attitude as TA152 will be better.



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View Postwinser, on 28 May 2017 - 06:58 PM, said:

 

WG surely will not buff back its attitude to 3000m, as if buff back to 3000m, XF90, 262HG3 and Javelin will no more benefit XD

But FW252 should offer the same attitude as TA152 will be better.

 

agreed, that will make this plane pretty good; even an altitude buff to 2500m will make it much more capable

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View PostEinssniper, on 17 May 2017 - 12:52 PM, said:

Since the deletion of this plane is almost impossible, let us consider the 2 options: either buff the altitude or make a second branch at tier 9 and add a new plane, to make this line stronger

Branch would definetely be fun. More planes is always great!


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