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FlakValleyExpress #1 Posted 28 March 2017 - 02:01 PM

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A tree line behind my house abused by the county for 40+ years in maintenance neglect, but growing into a fire hazard has to be trimmed from the power lines.

 

Here is before (2011)

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Here is the after (2016)

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 But does it have to a copse of trees? Wow, the only thing missing is the bonfire. When I first saw the end results, this is reminded me of Treebeard from LoTR



Granted I was not around when the trees were planted, but my wife was since this her childhood home. One good thing is I get more light in my kitchen now. FYI, the power company plans on putting midget trees in their place to mark the boundary border. 


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BrushWolf #2 Posted 28 March 2017 - 03:44 PM

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It is sad when a tree has to come down but it is probably better that they took the tree(s) down than simply topping them as I have seen done here.

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tahee59 #3 Posted 28 March 2017 - 07:55 PM

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Trees do not mark boundary line unless there are calls to them in a legal . Like thence n89d43'33"e a distance of 455.09 feet to a 40 inch oak tree or thence n88d44'43"w along a tree line a distance of 550.99 feet.

 

 



FlakValleyExpress #4 Posted 28 March 2017 - 08:17 PM

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View PostBrushWolf, on 28 March 2017 - 10:44 AM, said:

It is sad when a tree has to come down but it is probably better that they took the tree(s) down than simply topping them as I have seen done here.

 

Well in the past the tops of the trees were cut off. The the trees branched out (no pun intended) to the sides of the power lines. When looking down the power lines it was like looking at a "U" channel  was carved out of the trees. It did make for very odd looking trees. 

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losttwo #5 Posted 28 March 2017 - 10:47 PM

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Trees are the smartest criminals.

They kill several people a year and do not get caught.

Good news is that they only kill stupid people.

http://tcia.org/TCIA/News/Safety/By_the_Numbers__Civilian_Tree_Care_Accidents_in_2012_.aspx



Chuck_norris10 #6 Posted 29 March 2017 - 01:26 AM

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View Posttahee59, on 28 March 2017 - 12:55 PM, said:

Trees do not mark boundary line unless there are calls to them in a legal . Like thence n89d43'33"e a distance of 455.09 feet to a 40 inch oak tree or thence n88d44'43"w along a tree line a distance of 550.99 feet.

 

 

 

Any tree on or off a legal powerline that has a chance of falling on a line is called a danger tree and will be either topped or cut right down. Doing a 60 klik rebuild right now in Canada that will take 5 years.

Powerline construction is one of my fortes.


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RedSpartacus #7 Posted 29 March 2017 - 11:26 AM

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They could put the power line into the earth and keep the trees.


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View PostRedSpartacus, on 29 March 2017 - 06:26 AM, said:

They could put the power line into the earth and keep the trees.

 

This. If I lived in an area with above-ground power lines, I'd probably move. SO ugly!

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BrushWolf #9 Posted 29 March 2017 - 05:01 PM

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View PostRedSpartacus, on 29 March 2017 - 06:26 AM, said:

They could put the power line into the earth and keep the trees.

 

View PostEspressoForHammy, on 29 March 2017 - 09:05 AM, said:

 

This. If I lived in an area with above-ground power lines, I'd probably move. SO ugly!

 

It takes a fairly high population density to make burying them viable.

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Chuck_norris10 #10 Posted 29 March 2017 - 06:01 PM

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View PostBrushWolf, on 29 March 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

 

 

It takes a fairly high population density to make burying them viable.

 

very expensive to do.

You need insulated conductor and conduit and then you have to dodge all the underground utilities.


 

 


 

BrushWolf #11 Posted 29 March 2017 - 07:33 PM

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View PostBrushWolf, on 29 March 2017 - 12:01 PM, said:

 

 

It takes a fairly high population density to make burying them viable.

 

View PostChuck_norris10, on 29 March 2017 - 01:01 PM, said:

 

very expensive to do.

You need insulated conductor and conduit and then you have to dodge all the underground utilities.

 

You really only see it in dense urban areas. Downtown Duluth has everything buried but where my house is five blocks from downtown only water and sewer are underground.

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Chuck_norris10 #12 Posted 30 March 2017 - 01:54 AM

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View PostBrushWolf, on 29 March 2017 - 12:33 PM, said:

 

 

You really only see it in dense urban areas. Downtown Duluth has everything buried but where my house is five blocks from downtown only water and sewer are underground.

 

In new subdivisions its the way to go but to bury an existing line in a crowded area is very expensive..

I mainly do transmission line construction and not distribution lines so most of what I work with is in the mountains and praries and very high voltage and only underground I have seen with that size conductor is on the big windfarms.

Eventually it has to go above ground as the space needed for a high kv underground would be enormous.

i,m probably going back pipeline after 7 years of powerline,it has been a blast.

 

 


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View PostChuck_norris10, on 29 March 2017 - 08:54 PM, said:

 

In new subdivisions its the way to go but to bury an existing line in a crowded area is very expensive..

I mainly do transmission line construction and not distribution lines so most of what I work with is in the mountains and praries and very high voltage and only underground I have seen with that size conductor is on the big windfarms.

Eventually it has to go above ground as the space needed for a high kv underground would be enormous.

i,m probably going back pipeline after 7 years of powerline,it has been a blast.

 

 

 

It makes sense in an area of new development as the services are not in yet so the additional cost of burying them minimal and is more than made up with lower maintenance.

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View PostBrushWolf, on 30 March 2017 - 12:45 PM, said:

 

It makes sense in an area of new development as the services are not in yet so the additional cost of burying them minimal and is more than made up with lower maintenance.

 

Sadly im going back pipeline soon and will miss working with the linesman.

Powerline is $3800.00 every two weeks and pipeline is $4900.00 a week.paid every friday.

 


 

 


 

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View PostChuck_norris10, on 30 March 2017 - 08:43 PM, said:

 

Sadly im going back pipeline soon and will miss working with the linesman.

Powerline is $3800.00 every two weeks and pipeline is $4900.00 a week.paid every friday.

 

 

Both damn good pay even in Canadian Pesos. :P

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View PostBrushWolf, on 30 March 2017 - 09:14 PM, said:

 

Both damn good pay even in Canadian Pesos. :P

 

It comes at a cost,in both jobs your rarely home and when it,s an ice storm and your power is out remember that somewhe there are linesman out in that weather sometimes having to walk miles with hundeds of pounds of gear to fix downed lines.

Thee arent many roads to transmission lines hee in the mountains,most wee originally built with horses and now helicopters.


 

 


 




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