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fallanger #21 Posted 28 March 2017 - 05:09 PM

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I'm just a GA guy, but I do have tinfoil hats for anyone that thinks it will help. I joined a few clans till I found some folks I could chat with and carry on about anything and joke around with, with thick skins too. I have a terrible sense of humor so I found my clan to be the best fit. I'm an average player with my ego in check, but I do like to irritate the mental masturbators that believe their own [heavily edited].  

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Cdn_Avro #22 Posted 28 March 2017 - 09:54 PM

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Clan Wars!  Are you serious?  Not in my life time.  The only clan wars are done by the community.  PK did the last one and how many clans participated?  4 yes 4 then one dropped out....

So out of all the clans who wants to come play clan wars.  Last time it was Dracs, Wraith Squad, Warhawks and Falco.  Where were the rest of you?  Everyone complains about fairness

how much time it takes, when they have to fight blah blah blah.  Without a commitment from all the major clans we will never have a WG sponsored one.  Anyone above 50 or 60 members

should be participating if it comes around again.  It is way better than flying against bots.  We probably know the top 3 finishers but flying 10 v 10 on humans for 2 nights a week over a few months

is way better than shooting down crappy bots. Brings all your clanmates together and brings a lot of comraderie back to the game.  Participation is the key.... So talk all you want about it but it's up

to the clans to do their part.



GeorgePatton #23 Posted 29 March 2017 - 02:23 AM

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View PostJaguardian, on 28 March 2017 - 11:54 AM, said:

 

1.  Don't need to be in a clan to stat pad and there is no benefit to stat padding while in a clan.

2.  Only viable competitive team play strategy is to go high and kill the enemy.  Once again no need for a clan.

3.  No need to join a clan to work towards getting tier 10's in your hanger.

4.  See #2, only one strategy has been proven to work.  No need to be in a clan for that, just staying alive and being able to hit a target is all that is needed in today's game.

 

Only reason to be in a clan in this game is so you don't keep getting asked to be in a clan.

 

Well, I know there are some DRACS that do very well in the J7s down low. Maybe going high isn't the only viable team strategy.

 

 

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scipionmk #24 Posted 29 March 2017 - 12:44 PM

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View PostJaguardian, on 28 March 2017 - 05:54 PM, said:

 

1.  ...

2.  Only viable competitive team play strategy is to go high and kill the enemy.  Once again no need for a clan.

3. ...

4.  See #2, only one strategy has been proven to work.  No need to be in a clan for that, just staying alive and being able to hit a target is all that is needed in today's game.

 

Only reason to be in a clan in this game is so you don't keep getting asked to be in a clan.

 

Sometime, and I will repeat, sometime no need to be up high to have joy at the end of the game. I won numerous of times battles facing ever uber pilots in a heavy flight at tier 9 and 10 while being in a Jak, J7W, La160 or similar.

Hint (early took down their GAA).


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Jaguardian #25 Posted 29 March 2017 - 04:16 PM

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The low strategy has never worked against the high strategy in competitive team games in the current game structure (at least against a DRACS team).  Pub matches yes, team games no.  OP was referring to clan wars type game play.

MelBrooks #26 Posted 29 March 2017 - 04:45 PM

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View PostJaguardian, on 29 March 2017 - 11:16 AM, said:

The low strategy has never worked against the high strategy in competitive team games in the current game structure (at least against a DRACS team).  Pub matches yes, team games no.  OP was referring to clan wars type game play.

 

​Absolutely true. You can be a GA machine, or the ultimate turn and burn warrior, but, in a competitive team match, you are toast. Energy, altitude, and shot placement are the key.

mnbv_fockewulfe #27 Posted 30 March 2017 - 12:11 AM

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Actually, I've been thinking of a low alt strategy that might work in small competitive play. I just need to get with a few of my clan mates to work it out.

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Bobby_Tables #28 Posted 30 March 2017 - 12:32 AM

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View Postmnbv_fockewulfe, on 29 March 2017 - 06:11 PM, said:

Actually, I've been thinking of a low alt strategy that might work in small competitive play. I just need to get with a few of my clan mates to work it out.

 

Actually, you might want to flight up with someone outside your clan.  Y'know, someone who can actually learn a new strategy aside from dying instantly...

 



mnbv_fockewulfe #29 Posted 30 March 2017 - 11:45 PM

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Is it bad that my survival rate and my winrate are the same in my Fw 252?

 


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Psicko23 #30 Posted 31 March 2017 - 06:42 PM

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View Postmnbv_fockewulfe, on 30 March 2017 - 03:45 PM, said:

Is it bad that my survival rate and my winrate are the same in my Fw 252?

 

 

 depends on the rate...

RedSpartacus #31 Posted 31 March 2017 - 07:26 PM

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View Postmnbv_fockewulfe, on 30 March 2017 - 07:45 PM, said:

Is it bad that my survival rate and my winrate are the same in my Fw 252?

 

 

That means you're out of luck.
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Noreaga #32 Posted 31 March 2017 - 08:47 PM

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I agree that low alt tactics are hard to win with, it takes coordination and trust (not too much of that online). It also means that you are trying to force a mistake by the high alt team, patience is also not our strong suit!

 

check out the drac recruitment video at about 3:30 one of the teams starts off low alt in a pretty good Lufber circle. The more you watch the more the circle breaks apart, all it takes is one or two planes to go chase the last guy to buzz them, and the integrity breaks down. 

 

 

This is not a slight on the team in the video, just the only example i could think of.


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mnbv_fockewulfe #33 Posted 31 March 2017 - 09:44 PM

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View PostPsicko23, on 31 March 2017 - 06:42 PM, said:

 

 depends on the rate...

 

47%

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Mackunaima #34 Posted 31 March 2017 - 10:31 PM

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View Postmnbv_fockewulfe, on 31 March 2017 - 06:44 PM, said:

 

47%

 

Man, I dont know how Fw252 is now.. But it was a very good plane..

 

47% survival rate is soooo bad, but 47% WR for a tier 10 being used by a player with 61%WT (you) just tells me you are doing something very wrong with this plane.

 

Give us some video.


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mnbv_fockewulfe #35 Posted 31 March 2017 - 11:16 PM

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Mostly me being new to T10, I only have less than 50 battles in the plane although somehow I already have 6 skill points *shrugs*

Here's my swats:

Battles: 41

Victories: 19, 46.35% (just lost one battle just now)

Defeats: 22, 53.65%

Battles Survived: 20, 48.78 (to Zigfried by supremacy)

Aircraft Destroyed: 86

Max in one battle: 6

avg per battle: 2.1

a/c killed to myself died ratio: 4.1:1

Hit ratio: 21

Damage caused: 69,431

Total exp: 142,566

avg exp: 1,635


 


 


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mnbv_fockewulfe #36 Posted 01 April 2017 - 12:09 AM

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Just died and lost again...I'm telling you T10 is tough.

I had 4 kills to till I died in  headon with a bot yak


 


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MALICE_AT_BIRTH #37 Posted 01 April 2017 - 01:24 AM

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View PostGeorgePatton, on 27 March 2017 - 10:04 PM, said:

Hey Everybody!

 

I was recently reading a thread that argued that without a current Wargaming sponsored clan wars system there is not a good reason to join a clan that aims to be competitive by requiring specific amounts of planes, K/D ratios, etc. I respect the creator of that thread and did not want to put this post in that thread as it would not be helpful to the poster's recruitment drive. That being said, I disagree with the poster's assessment of the current state of clans and why/why not someone should join clans with a focus other than just pure winning.

 

First of all, I know that there is very little information publicly available on when/if clan wars will eventually come to Warplanes - this is discouraging, I know. But here are the reasons why I believe you should still try to join a clan that is prepping for the eventual release of clan wars...

 

  1. People remember which clans you have applied to, and which you've played with. Joining a clan that cares only about win rate and allows members to stat pad at low tiers is not going to look favorable when you go to apply to one of the prepared clans when clan wars hit.
  2. Playing with a clan that's prepping now will give you valuable skills when CW does hit.
  3. Working towards owning multiple tier 10 aircraft now will save you a lot of time when CW is released, and will massively increase your chances of being useful to clans you want to apply to later on - sure, you could do this in a clan that only focuses on win rate, but again, see number 1.
  4. Clans that are prepping are working on teamwork and winning as a team - clans that focus simply on an arbitrary number like win rate (my win rate is currently high enough to join any exclusive clan, so please don't say I'm sore...) are not really working on team communication and working together. This will be bad when clan wars actually hit.

 

So, those are my top 4 reasons why you should think carefully about which clan you join. Take it or leave it. I'm not trying to direct people to any particular clan or push them away from another - I just think it's important in the face of a lot of the 'in your face' advertising I've seen that people hear an opposite voice as well.

 

 

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Psicko23 #38 Posted 01 April 2017 - 05:19 AM

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View Postmnbv_fockewulfe, on 31 March 2017 - 04:09 PM, said:

Just died and lost again...I'm telling you T10 is tough.

I had 4 kills to till I died in  headon with a bot yak


 

 

 that's one big problem in most tiers, don't do headons with bots unless you are in a heavy and going head on with a light fighter or multi role. Bots have good accuracy in a head-on. If you want to win the game, you have a better chance if you survive until the end, still not a guarantee. Yes, you are getting some bad luck, but throwing your plane away isn't helping. The bots can go full special ed window lickers and you lose a game you should have won, all because you decided to go head-on with a yak.



losttwo #39 Posted 01 April 2017 - 11:14 AM

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Does anyone know the difference between a Bot and a Yak ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

...............................You can fly a Yak......................................................if you did not like that joke then" you can kiss my bot " ..............................:P



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View Postlosttwo, on 01 April 2017 - 07:14 AM, said:

...............................You can fly a Yak......................................................if you did not like that joke then" you can kiss my bot " ..............................:P

 

 






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