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20thCenturyLtd #21 Posted 29 June 2017 - 01:12 PM

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View Postviper587, on 29 June 2017 - 04:30 AM, said:

the P-61 Black Widow was a attack plane - it had 4x 20mm in wings and 4x 50 cal on the top turret  witch could turn 360 degree 4x 500pl bombs under wings or 3x  1000pl bombs 1 on each wing and one in center and had 6 to 8 rockets. still it's not a fighter and if you look at the US line there is no attack aircraft and that would be a good start to have one there 

 

Yeah no. The P-61 was not a ground attack, it was a night fighter and would clearly fit in game as a heavy fighter.

 

"The Northrop P-61 Black Widow, named for the American spider, was the first operational U.S. warplane designed as a night fighter, and the first aircraft designed to use radar. The P-61 had a crew of three: pilot, gunner, and radar operator."

 

The fact that it can carry bombs & rockets means it would be no different than any of the other HF in the game that do.


Edited by 20thCenturyLtd, 29 June 2017 - 01:20 PM.

 

 


Psicko23 #22 Posted 29 June 2017 - 03:34 PM

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Hmm, the black widow is an attack plane? Lol.

BuffaloTime #23 Posted 29 June 2017 - 07:58 PM

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US attack plane. Give us the Grizzly, if we are using proposed planes not produced planes

 

http://forum.worldofwarplanes.com/index.php?/topic/40051-beechcraft-xa-38-grizzly/page__hl__%2Bgrizzly__fromsearch__1

 

 



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View Postviper587, on 29 June 2017 - 04:30 AM, said:

the P-61 Black Widow was a attack plane - it had 4x 20mm in wings and 4x 50 cal on the top turret  witch could turn 360 degree 4x 500pl bombs under wings or 3x  1000pl bombs 1 on each wing and one in center and had 6 to 8 rockets. still it's not a fighter and if you look at the US line there is no attack aircraft and that would be a good start to have one there 

 

The 20mm's were in the belly

Vanize #25 Posted 10 July 2017 - 07:06 PM

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I read a passage in a book about the p-61 where a p-61 pilot challenged a p-47 pilot to a fly off and totally outmaneuvered the p-47 thanks to the advanced zap flaps and such.

 

and then there is this:

"However, on July 5, 1944 General Spaatz ordered a competition be held between the P-61 - using an example from the 422nd which had its Double Wasp radials carefully "tuned up" for the competition - against a Mosquito NF.XVII, and Lt.Col. Kratz made a $500 bet in favor of the Mosquito being a faster and more maneuverable night fighting platform. The "tweaked" P-61 proved Lt.Col. Kratz wrong, as according to the 422nd's squadron historian it "... proved faster at all altitudes, outturned the Mossie at every altitude and by a big margin and far surpassed the Mossie in rate of climb".[16]"

 

the reference being:  "The United States Army Air Forces in World War II - Developing a True Night Fighter". usaaf.net. Archived from the original on January 26, 2004. Retrieved April 18, 2013 (as per wikipedia)



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View PostVanize, on 11 July 2017 - 07:06 AM, said:

I read a passage in a book about the p-61 where a p-61 pilot challenged a p-47 pilot to a fly off and totally outmaneuvered the p-47 thanks to the advanced zap flaps and such.

 

and then there is this:

"However, on July 5, 1944 General Spaatz ordered a competition be held between the P-61 - using an example from the 422nd which had its Double Wasp radials carefully "tuned up" for the competition - against a Mosquito NF.XVII, and Lt.Col. Kratz made a $500 bet in favor of the Mosquito being a faster and more maneuverable night fighting platform. The "tweaked" P-61 proved Lt.Col. Kratz wrong, as according to the 422nd's squadron historian it "... proved faster at all altitudes, outturned the Mossie at every altitude and by a big margin and far surpassed the Mossie in rate of climb".[16]"

 

the reference being:  "The United States Army Air Forces in World War II - Developing a True Night Fighter". usaaf.net. Archived from the original on January 26, 2004. Retrieved April 18, 2013 (as per wikipedia)

 

There is a suggestion in the same Wikipedia entry that the British deliberately lost the fly off to keep Mosquito production for themselves.


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