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xXx_BulletMagnet_xXx #1 Posted 16 March 2017 - 04:18 AM

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This game is not worth playing in current configuration!

Lethalhavoc #2 Posted 16 March 2017 - 04:58 AM

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Why?

Psicko23 #3 Posted 16 March 2017 - 09:33 AM

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OP, since you posted this I  suggestions, what are your suggestions to make this better. 

Derpinoid #4 Posted 16 March 2017 - 09:40 AM

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Well, some people might just be a touch upset that about 5 to 10 matches a day are just like that on one side or the other. I personally fly less, and make sure I have sufficient refreshments to keep the fact that it's a game in perspective.

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losttwo #5 Posted 16 March 2017 - 09:47 AM

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View PostxXx_BulletMagnet_xXx, on 15 March 2017 - 11:18 PM, said:

This game is not worth playing in current configuration!

 

Are you winning 60% of your battles ?

 

Sometimes you're the rabbit and sometimes you're the foot


Edited by losttwo, 16 March 2017 - 02:30 PM.


Bobby_Tables #6 Posted 16 March 2017 - 01:45 PM

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To me, the 2:36 time is a blessing rather than a curse.  If your team is going to lose, might as well have it done quickly.  Especially if you are grinding a plane and want it available for the next battle.  

Steel_bomber_ #7 Posted 16 March 2017 - 02:39 PM

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I think I have not played since December 2016, the bots have taken the fun out of this game for me.

I might consider returning if the bots are gone, just my opinion.

The bots slaughter each other way too fast, the fun is out of the game for me.

 

Let's hope the bots are gone soon (for me that is).


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losttwo #8 Posted 16 March 2017 - 02:53 PM

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View PostSteel_bomber_, on 16 March 2017 - 09:39 AM, said:

I think I have not played since December 2016, the bots have taken the fun out of this game for me.

I might consider returning if the bots are gone, just my opinion.

The bots slaughter each other way too fast, the fun is out of the game for me.

 

Let's hope the bots are gone soon (for me that is).

 

I would prefer an all human match were the team is eliminated in the first 2:36 minutes

than a match with bots eliminated in 2:36 minutes.



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View PostSteel_bomber_, on 16 March 2017 - 09:39 AM, said:

I think I have not played since December 2016, the bots have taken the fun out of this game for me.

I might consider returning if the bots are gone, just my opinion.

The bots slaughter each other way too fast, the fun is out of the game for me.

 

Let's hope the bots are gone soon (for me that is).

 

A few bots flesh out the matches but when the bots outnumber the humans by 10 to 1 they do take the fun away.

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Derpinoid #10 Posted 16 March 2017 - 07:04 PM

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View Postlosttwo, on 16 March 2017 - 09:47 AM, said:

 

Are you winning 60% of your battles ?

 

Sometimes you're the rabbit and sometimes you're the foot

 

Has it possibly occurred to you that people play games for fun, not just winning, and don't like the current setup? (Besides, I go by personal rating)

Edited by Derpinoid, 16 March 2017 - 07:13 PM.

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View PostDerpinoid, on 16 March 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

 

Has it possibly occurred to you that people play games for fun, not just winning, and don't like the current setup? (Besides, I go by personal rating)

 

The way some people rant in matches many only enjoy winning which puts them on course for disappointment. Even the very best can be beaten.

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losttwo #12 Posted 16 March 2017 - 09:19 PM

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View PostDerpinoid, on 16 March 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

 

Has it possibly occurred to you that people play games for fun, not just winning, and don't like the current setup? (Besides, I go by personal rating)

 

You must have missed my Nobel Prize Winning Paper that was published last year

for my Doctoral Thesis.

The Title is " Sex,Video Games and the Art of Winning "

In short it states that Sex is Fun and games are for masochist and people that get pleasure from losing.

 

Sorry but I do not think anyone here buys the salami about " I play for fun losing means nothing".

Everyone plays the game for fun. Lose enough games and the game is no longer fun.

 

Simply. The game is not worth playing in the current configuration, WHY ?

 If you have not figured out how to play it in its current configuration then what makes you think

you can play it in any other configuration.

 

Simply put. The OP is just whining about losing and can't seem to learn the game.

OR and this is a big OR and a logical excuse.

 

He may not have a computer capable of playing the game in the current configuration.

For myself i have struggled the last year with the rig I use versus WG configuration.

Still being able to maintain a 60% or better win rate.

Feb 28th I think was the last time I could log in and play because the fan went out on my computer.

I log in and the computer shuts down from thermal overload.

I can still do internet stuff such as forums, mail and FB...but that is it.

 

So yeah my original question to the OP still stands.

 

 

 

 

 



Im_the_Juggernaut_Beotch #13 Posted 21 May 2017 - 12:54 PM

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View Postlosttwo, on 16 March 2017 - 09:47 AM, said:

 

Are you winning 60% of your battles ?

 

Sometimes you're the rabbit and sometimes you're the foot

 

Win to lose ratios means nothing.  You have no control over match making and what team members you get (ie Bots)

There've been times I got six kills in a battle and we still lost the battle.



Psicko23 #14 Posted 22 May 2017 - 05:03 AM

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View PostIm_the_Juggernaut_Beotch, on 21 May 2017 - 04:54 AM, said:

 

Win to lose ratios means nothing.  You have no control over match making and what team members you get (ie Bots)

There've been times I got six kills in a battle and we still lost the battle.

 

win to loss ratio does mean something. You only have control over you, you can't control the other humans on your team, you don't have full control of the bots. The people with higher win rates and other stats indicate that some people have figured out how to win more and lose less, while the people with lower win rates haven't figured out how to win and complain about how the bots and mm is against them. The people with high win ratios get the same match making and same random bots. The difference is playing better and knowing how to win in situations where a lesser skilled pilot would lose. That's The difference between low win rates and higher win rates. 

  You are never going to win every single battle. Even the best players don't have a 100% win rate. I've had 9 kills in a game and still lost. You think bots are bad? Everything I have seen a bot do, I've seen a human do with two exceptions. Bots that are not in ground attack planes do not go after ground targets, while humans do that all the time. Second one, I've seen bots get behind enemy planes and not shoot. Humans always shoot at the enemy. 


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scipionmk #15 Posted 22 May 2017 - 09:13 AM

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This is a copy/paste from an EU forum where I posted on similar topic.

 

"Games are decided by:

1) Number of experts or noobs in a team

2) Good plan and team work

3) Not making big mistakes

4) Punishing mistakes of the enemies

5) good (OP) vs no so good planes

6) Bigger and better battle count in one team as opposite in other team

7) Luck

8) Flight vs no flight in a team

etc

As you can see there are a lot of variables which can influence the outcome of a match.

Expert gamers in this game can influence and can prevail.

Even an average players who use team work and apply appropriate tactics can win against good players who do not exploit their advantages. 

 

Conclusion: this is a game. So good luck and have fun."



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View Postscipionmk, on 22 May 2017 - 01:13 AM, said:

This is a copy/paste from an EU forum where I posted on similar topic.

 

"Games are decided by:

1) Number of experts or noobs in a team

2) Good plan and team work

3) Not making big mistakes

4) Punishing mistakes of the enemies

5) good (OP) vs no so good planes

6) Bigger and better battle count in one team as opposite in other team

7) Luck

8) Flight vs no flight in a team

etc

As you can see there are a lot of variables which can influence the outcome of a match.

Expert gamers in this game can influence and can prevail.

Even an average players who use team work and apply appropriate tactics can win against good players who do not exploit their advantages. 

 

Conclusion: this is a game. So good luck and have fun."

 

  Flights can make a bg difference int he outcome of battles. As can a good, skilled pilot.


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View PostIm_the_Juggernaut_Beotch, on 21 May 2017 - 07:54 AM, said:

 

Win to lose ratios means nothing.  You have no control over match making and what team members you get (ie Bots)

There've been times I got six kills in a battle and we still lost the battle.

 

The win rate shows your 'contributions' in each of the battle, if you shoot down 6 planes each battle, you could still lose, but in the long run, you will win more. 

Math is not going to cheat us



Im_the_Juggernaut_Beotch #18 Posted 10 June 2017 - 02:40 AM

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Like I said earlier.  Victory to loses means nothing. 

 

How is if that:

70% of the battle I get the enemy team destroys my team in 3mins or less. Or it I happen to get a winning team there is always enemy attack planes in the end.  And the AP always have full hit points (HP), that means Allied AAs never engaged them to do damage.

 

If this game is not prearranged.  Then most battle should last more than 3mins.  For either side.



Ace_BOTlistic_Cosmo #19 Posted 10 June 2017 - 03:42 AM

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70% of the battles

you cannot do fuzzy math and expect precise results ... so, you are giving an emotional response while quoting made up mathematical figures

 

View PostIm_the_Juggernaut_Beotch, on 09 June 2017 - 09:40 PM, said:

Like I said earlier.  Victory to loses means nothing. 

 

How is if that:

70% of the battle I get the enemy team destroys my team in 3mins or less.

Or it I happen to get a winning team there is always enemy attack planes in the end.  And the AP always have full hit points (HP), that means Allied AAs never engaged them to do damage.

 

If this game is not prearranged.  Then most battle should last more than 3mins.  For either side.

"always" ... <--- that seems to be an all encompassing word that is very overused in an emotional driven opinion that uses little fact

"prearranged"   <----  when I see this, I think paranoid tinfoil yamaka... you or I are not special enough for this game to have a minion assigned to messing with our individual minds... we are just not that important in the scheme of this particular game...

 

best advice I can give is also a life lesson... take ownership and learn from your mistakes in life...

 

 

 

 


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Psicko23 #20 Posted 10 June 2017 - 06:22 PM

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View PostIm_the_Juggernaut_Beotch, on 09 June 2017 - 06:40 PM, said:

Like I said earlier.  Victory to loses means nothing. 

 

How is if that:

70% of the battle I get the enemy team destroys my team in 3mins or less. Or it I happen to get a winning team there is always enemy attack planes in the end.  And the AP always have full hit points (HP), that means Allied AAs never engaged them to do damage.

 

If this game is not prearranged.  Then most battle should last more than 3mins.  For either side.

The people you are losing to are better than you and have a higher win rate. There are many old vets in the game that have been here way before I was. We know how to fly the planes, we know how to manipulate the bots as best as we can to secure a win. Therefore those people can get higher win rates than other people who are less skilled. The win rates go hand in hand with the level of skill. The better skilled you are, the more likely you will win more. A more skilled person will have a better chance of turning a battle that looks like defeat into a win. People that aren't that good won't have as much of a chance of turning the tides. You should never give up, if you always try and never give up you will eventually learn how to turn the tide of battles that look like it will end in defeat. If you give up and don't fight to the bitter end, you will not learn the skills necessary to get better and win more. 






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