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raulv04 #21 Posted 30 December 2016 - 07:23 PM

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View PostYagos2k16, on 30 December 2016 - 11:08 AM, said:

I read the recent devs blog and it says plans for the "cats" are a long ways to go

 

You have to learn that the things written in any WG devs' blog are like promises from any politician. If I had 1 cent from every grain of salt I have taken those devs' blogs with, I would be a billionaire.

Yagos2k16 #22 Posted 30 December 2016 - 08:56 PM

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View Postraulv04, on 30 December 2016 - 02:23 PM, said:

 

You have to learn that the things written in any WG devs' blog are like promises from any politician. If I had 1 cent from every grain of salt I have taken those devs' blogs with, I would be a billionaire.

Sorry I quoted them wrong what they said was "Carrier based cats will not be coming any time soon". So in essence they dont give two effs  about what the players want.

 


Edited by Yagos2k16, 30 December 2016 - 10:43 PM.


MelBrooks #23 Posted 31 December 2016 - 12:20 AM

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View PostYagos2k16, on 30 December 2016 - 12:08 PM, said:

I read the recent devs blog and it says "Carriers based cats won't be coming any time soon"cats” are not coming any time soon

 

​No Hellcat, no Bearcat, no Panther, no Cougar.............American tech tree looks like a Ferrari, missing the #$%$#$#$%%$ engine!

Yagos2k16 #24 Posted 01 January 2017 - 01:57 PM

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That cougar sure is a nice lookin air machine

_Warchylde_ #25 Posted 01 January 2017 - 02:23 PM

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View PostYagos2k16, on 01 January 2017 - 08:57 AM, said:

That cougar sure is a nice lookin air machine

 

Indeed.  I took this photo of an F9F-8 Cougar a couple years ago at the Naval Aviation Museum onboard NAS Pensacola.  

The F9F-8 carried four (4) nose-mounted 20mm M3 cannons, as well as 6x 5" HVAR rockets and 4x AIM-9 Sidewinders.

 

The Blue Angels flew the Cougar from 1954 until 1957, when they transitioned to the Grumman F-11 Tiger, the first supersonic carrier-based fighter..


Edited by _Warchylde_, 01 January 2017 - 02:26 PM.

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Yagos2k16 #26 Posted 01 January 2017 - 05:35 PM

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View Post_Warchylde_, on 01 January 2017 - 09:23 AM, said:

 

Indeed.  I took this photo of an F9F-8 Cougar a couple years ago at the Naval Aviation Museum onboard NAS Pensacola.  

The F9F-8 carried four (4) nose-mounted 20mm M3 cannons, as well as 6x 5" HVAR rockets and 4x AIM-9 Sidewinders.

 

The Blue Angels flew the Cougar from 1954 until 1957, when they transitioned to the Grumman F-11 Tiger, the first supersonic carrier-based fighter..

 

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_Warchylde_ #27 Posted 02 January 2017 - 03:59 PM

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View Post_Warchylde_, on 28 December 2016 - 04:00 PM, said:

 

Keep the MR line as is, working through the Corsairs, but at Tier VI, they need to branch off to pure fighters beginning with the F6F Hellcat at Tier VI, the F8F Bearcat at Tier VII, the F9F Panther at Tier VIII, and the F9F-6 swept-wing Cougar at Tier IX.

The next logical step in the Grumman line would be the F-11 Tiger at Tier X, but the Tiger was a supersonic aircraft, and is not suitable for this game's meta, so I can't think of a decent subsonic USN fighter to advance up to past the Cougar. There are other viable options for Tier X, but they were more inline with the Navy's doctrine of multirole fighter-bombers, which is already well represented by the F7U Cutlass.

 

 

I've done a little more research.

Grumman DID develop the XF10F  Jaguar, but it never got beyond the prototype stage, and due to it's variable geometry wings, it primarily served as more of an experimental test bed for further development of swing wing technology.

 

HOWEVER,  after further review, I feel that an even better addition for Tier X, would actually go out of the Grumman line, and back to McDonnell Douglas, with the F3H Demon, a subsonic carrier-based fighter which was designed specifically to face the MiG-15 in air to air combat.

While not supersonic, it continued to fight besides F8U Crusaders and F-11 Tigers, until 1964.

 

F3H Demon

  • Maximum speed: 716 mph (622 knots, 1,152 km/h) at sea level, 647 mph (563 knots, 1,041 km/h) at 30,000 ft (9,150 m)
  • Rate of climb: 12,795 ft/min (65.0 m/s)

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jack_wdw #28 Posted 05 March 2017 - 04:28 PM

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If the Hellcat is too overpowered for tier VI, why not make the XF-6 (with the wright twin cyclone as engine) the Tier VI fighter?
They've done something similar with the xp-44 in between the lancer and the thunderbolt.
The real Hellcat could be tier VII and the Bearcat tier VIII

Edited by jack_wdw, 05 March 2017 - 04:28 PM.





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