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J311yfish #1 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:46 AM

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This thread will be an avenue to:

1) introduce historical information for current in-game aircraft

2) provide greater understanding of German aircraft development as it might relate to Japan, Italy, and France

3) identify potential avenues for new lines

4) identify potential premiums

5) identify borrowed/captured German technology


Edited by J311yfish, 16 November 2016 - 01:51 AM.

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J311yfish #2 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:47 AM

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Tier I
 
Arado Ar 65 -- (prior to 11/1932) -- 85+ built -- [1,930 kg] -- delivered 1933-1936

Edited by J311yfish, 30 May 2018 - 03:26 AM.

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Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

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J311yfish #3 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:48 AM

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Tier II
 
Focke-Wulf Fw 56 Stosser (Hawk) (1934)  -- Kurt Tank -- 
 
Fieseler Fi 98 (1933+) -- Erich Bachem and Rheinhold Mewes -- 1 built
 
Arado Ar 67 (late autumn 1933) -- 1 built

 

Kawasaki Ki-5 (02/1934) -- Richard Vogt (in Japan) -- lost to Kawasaki Ki-10 (03/1935)

 

 

 

Heinkel He 51 (summer 1933) -- Siegfried and Walter Günter -- 700 built -- delivered 04/1935+
 
Arado Ar 68 (summer 1934) -- delivered 1936+
 
AGO Ao 192 Kurier (prior to 02/1937) -- 0 built
 

Edited by J311yfish, 30 May 2018 - 05:29 PM.

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #4 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:48 AM

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Tier III
 
Blohm und Voss Ha 137 / V1 (1935-1936) -- Richard Vogt -- 6 built
 
 
 
 
Focke-Wulf Fw 159 (11/1935) -- Kurt Tank -- 3 built -- [2,250 kg] -- eclipsed by He 112 and Bf 109

 

Arado Ar 80 (early 1936) -- Walter Rethel -- 5 built -- [2,100 kg] -- eclipsed by He 112 and Bf 109

 

Focke-Wulf Fw 57 (05/1936) -- Kurt Tank and Bansemir -- 3 built -- [8,300 kg] -- lost to Bf 110

 

 

Junkers Ju 86E (__/19__)

 


Edited by J311yfish, 14 October 2018 - 09:05 AM.

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #5 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:49 AM

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Tier IV
 
Arado Ar 197 (early 1937) -- 3 built
 
Messerschmitt Bf 110 C-6 (~01/1939) -- 12 built -- produced 05/1940-07/1940
 
 
 
Heinkel He 112 (__/1935) -- Ernst Heinkel -- 100 built

 

Messerschmitt Bf 109 B (05/1935, 02/1937) -- Willy Messerschmitt -- ~55 built -- operational evaluation 12/1936; entered service 03/1937

 

Messerschmitt Bf 110 B (05/1936, 01/1938, 07/1938) -- 

 

Focke-Wulf Fw 189 C Eule (Owl) (1939-1940 from Fw 189 07/1938) -- Kurt Tank -- 2 built

 

 

Heinkel He 111 H-2 (__/19__)

 

Dornier Do 17 Z (__/19__)

 


Edited by J311yfish, 14 October 2018 - 09:05 AM.

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #6 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:49 AM

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Tier V
 
Messerschmitt Me 209 V4 (08/1938, 05/1939)

 

Heinkel He 100 D-1 (

 

Messerschmitt Bf 109 E-3 (06/1937) -- 1,868 built
 

Messerschmitt Me 210 (09/1939)

 
 
 
Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-1 (06/1939, 12/1939) -- entered production 1941
 
Messerschmitt Bf 109 Emil (06/1937) -- 
 
Messerschmitt Bf 110 E (spring 1941)
 
 
Henschel Hs 129 B (05/1939) -- 865 built
 
 
Junkers Ju 88A (__/19__) -- 
 

Edited by J311yfish, 14 October 2018 - 09:06 AM.

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #7 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:50 AM

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Tier VI
 
 
 
 
Focke-Wulf Fw 190 A-5 (__/19__) -- 723 built -- entered service Spring 1943
 
 
Messerschmitt Me 410 Hornisse (Hornet) (late 1942) -- 1,160 built
 
Junkers Ju 88 P (__/19__) --
 
 
Dornier Do 217 M (__/19__)
 
 
 

Edited by J311yfish, 14 October 2018 - 09:07 AM.

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #8 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:51 AM

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Tier VII
 
 
 
Focke-Wulf Fw 190 D (__/19__) -- entered service Fall 1944
 
Messerschmitt Bf 109 G Gustav (spring 1942) --
 
Messerschmitt Bf 109 Z Zwilling (__/19__) -- 1 built
 
Messerschmitt Me 265 (__/19__) -- 0 built
 
 

Edited by J311yfish, 30 May 2018 - 02:09 AM.

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #9 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:52 AM

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Tier VIII
 
Dornier Do 335 A-1 Pfeil (Arrow) (10/1943) -- 12 built
 
Messerschmitt Me 109 TL (__/19__) --
 
Mitsubishi J8M (08/1945) -- Experimental Rocket-Powered Interceptor Fighter -- Japan
 
 
Blohm und Voss P.210 (design 09/1944) -- Richard Vogt assisted by Hans Amtmann -- [3,400 kg] -- vs. Heinkel He 162
 
Focke-Wulf Ta 152 (11/1944) -- to enter production 04/1945
 
Messerschmitt Me 209 A (__/19__) -- counterpart to Dewoitine D.600? Bugatti 110P?
 
 
Messerschmitt Me 329 (__/19__) --

Edited by J311yfish, 05 September 2018 - 06:31 AM.

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Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #10 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:52 AM

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Tachikawa Ki-162-1 (__/19__) -- development of Heinkel He 162 in Japan
 
 
Blohm und Voss P.212.03 (design 11/1944+) -- Richard Vogt -- [5,030 kg] -- first flight planned summer 1945
 
Focke-Wulf Ta 183 Huckebein (design 02/1945) -- Hans Multhopp -- [4,300-5,100kg] -- development continued by Kurt Tank in Argentina as Pulqúi II
 
Messerschmitt Me P.1092 (design series ~07/1943) -- Hans Hornung, Willy Messerschmitt, Woldemar Voigt -- foundation for design of P.1101
 
 
 
 

Edited by J311yfish, 30 May 2018 - 01:57 AM.

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #11 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:53 AM

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Tier X
 
Tachikawa Ki-162-III (__/19__) -- continued development of Heinkel He 162 in Japan
 
 
Blohm und Voss P.215.02 (design 03/1945) -- Richard Vogt -- [14,680 kg max] -- chosen for further development
 
Focke-Wulf Fw 252 (__/19__) --
 
Messerschmitt Me P.1101 (design after summer 1944) -- Willy Messerschmitt -- development continued in the United States via Bell X-5
 
 

 


Edited by J311yfish, 30 May 2018 - 08:20 PM.

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #12 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:55 AM

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Edited by J311yfish, 28 May 2018 - 09:10 PM.

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #13 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:56 AM

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Edited by J311yfish, 28 May 2018 - 09:10 PM.

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #14 Posted 16 November 2016 - 01:58 AM

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ph


Edited by J311yfish, 28 May 2018 - 09:10 PM.

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #15 Posted 16 November 2016 - 02:01 AM

    Second Lieutenant

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  • [343] 343
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Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #16 Posted 16 November 2016 - 02:03 AM

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Alternates
 
Focke-Wulf Fw 187 (05/1937)
Focke-Wulf Ta 154 (07/1943)
Focke-Wulf Ta 254

Edited by J311yfish, 20 November 2016 - 02:02 PM.

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #17 Posted 16 November 2016 - 02:05 AM

    Second Lieutenant

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  • 1169 battles
  • 1,221
  • [343] 343
  • Member since:
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ph

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #18 Posted 16 November 2016 - 02:06 AM

    Second Lieutenant

  • Member
  • 1169 battles
  • 1,221
  • [343] 343
  • Member since:
    12-13-2013
ph

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #19 Posted 16 November 2016 - 02:07 AM

    Second Lieutenant

  • Member
  • 1169 battles
  • 1,221
  • [343] 343
  • Member since:
    12-13-2013
ph

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures


J311yfish #20 Posted 16 November 2016 - 02:08 AM

    Second Lieutenant

  • Member
  • 1169 battles
  • 1,221
  • [343] 343
  • Member since:
    12-13-2013
ph

Tech tree projects:   JAPAN    UNITED KINGDOM  //  ITALY    FRANCE  //  SWEDEN    Finland (skins)

Historical projects:  UNITED STATES   GERMANY  •  Poland  //  USSR  //  Retired projects:  China    Brazil

Historical scenarios:  Spanish Civil War (skins•  Invasion of Poland  •  Winter War  •  Continuation War

Map proposals:   Panama Canal    Great Wall of China    Cliffs of Dover   //  Clan:  343 Kokutai  //  Tutorial How to ignore forum posts and signatures





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