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Blueteamguy #1 Posted 04 May 2012 - 04:34 PM

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See my other trees!
USA: http://forum-na.worl...-for-tech-tree/
UK: http://forum-na.worl...r-tech-tree-uk/
USSR: http://forum-na.worl...sian-tech-tree/
Germany: http://forum-na.worl...eutsch-edition/

Quotes are Allied codenames
Japanese fighters are generally slow and practically have no armor, but are well armed and ridiculously maneuverable. Typically, they also have good range. The one defining quality of Japanese fighters is Maneuverability.
Starter: Kawasaki Type 92, leads to all Japanese trees as well as rest of Army Fighters tree

Army Fighters:
2: Nakajima Type 91
3: Nakajima Ki-27 "Nate"
4: Nakajima Ki-43 "Oscar"
5: Nakajima Ki-44 "Tojo"
6: Kawasaki Ki-61 "Tony"
7: Kawasaki Ki-100
8: Nakajima Ki-201
9: Upgraded Ki-201s gain tier 9
Shares tier 10 with Naval fighters

Navy Fighters:
2: Mitsubishi A5M "Claude"
3: Mistubishi A6M2 "Zeke", also known as "Zero" and "Rei-sen"
4: Mitsubishi A6M3
5: Mitsubishi A6M5
6: Mitsubishi J2M "Jack"
7: Kawanishi N1K2 "George"
8: Kyushu J7W Shinden
9: Nakajima Kikka (Sometimes, inaccurately, called J9Y) (Also final navy bomber)
10: Kyushu J7W2 Shinden-Kai

Navy Bombers (Torpedo/Dive)
2: Mitsubishi B2M
3: Yokosuka B4Y "Jean"/Mitsubishi B5M "Mabel"
4: Nakajima B5N "Kate"/ Aichi D3A "Val"

5: Nakajima B6N "Jill"/Yokosuka D4Y "Judy"
6: Yokosuka D3Y (Dive bomber)
7: Aichi B7A "Grace"
Merges with bomber tree, but B7A can lead to the Shared Kikka at T9

Same rule for other bomber trees, if not playable, than this is suggestion for tiers:
2: Mitsubishi Ki-30 "Ann"
3: Kawasaki Ki-32 "Mary"
4: Mitsubishi G3M "Nell"
5: Mitsubishi G4M "Betty"
6: Nakajima Ki-49 "Helen"
7: Mitsubishi Ki-67 "Peggy"
8: Nakajima G5N "Liz"
9: Nakajima G8N "Rita"
10: Nakajima G10N Fugaku (Mount Fuji)

Landon05 #2 Posted 05 May 2012 - 02:41 AM

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Pretty good. Think the Zero should be tier 4-6. Since the F4F wildcat and the F4U were always fighting them.

Blueteamguy #3 Posted 06 May 2012 - 05:48 AM

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I am 99.99999% sure tier is not assigned by status. If it were, the Mustang and 190 would be tier 10 XD
Tier is assigned by performance, and the three biggest models were always just a hair behind allied fighters in this regard

NemesisStar #4 Posted 05 June 2012 - 10:13 AM

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The Zero was Fast,Maneuverable and Agile. Its biggest flaw was that it was Made out of paper. (almost no armor)
(Agility= Maneuverability + controlability)

Though American Fighters where faster.

Edited by NemesisStar, 05 June 2012 - 10:14 AM.

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ScrewySqrl #5 Posted 05 June 2012 - 01:47 PM

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where is the Val in this, aka the Aichi D3A Dive Bomber?  It was the primary Japanese Dive Bomber in WW2, and should be around tier 4-6.  late in teh war they were even pressed ito service as interceptors to attack other bombers


Edited by ScrewySqrl, 05 June 2012 - 01:49 PM.

liminhao #6 Posted 28 June 2012 - 04:36 PM

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Forgive my poor english.
I have played a PSP game called "Zero - the naval Fighter", and it shows many interesting japanese aircraft which had actually been used during the war.
I'm glad to saw the "Shin-den kai" was set as the T9 naval fighter, since the IJN had only 2 Me-262 copies which they called "Tachibana". The 2 were under test by the end of war and capture by us army. IJA and IJN work together on the project of copy the german Me-262, quite unusually, but only IJN got the first 2. Perhaps they were facing more pressure. The IJA's Me-262 was called "Karyu (fire dragon)", which was a bit different with the IJN's on the size.
But I don't think that is a good idea to set "Karyu" as the T9 army Fighter of japanese tech-tree, since the bloody thing never been product, and there's a Me-262 on the germen tech-tree already. But if you goolge the japanese army fighter, you will find another one. "Karyu" had an offical number called "キ-201", and another copy of germen jet-engined fighter was the "キ-200", named "Shūsui", which was the copy of Me-163. IJA and IJN worked on this project together, too, since they were short on hands. less than 5 Akimizu was built, and like Tachibana, the naval Me-262, none of them had been used.

About T2 fighter, A5M is too morden, you should pick A2N, which was producted about as same time as F2F. A4N as T3, A5M as T4.
Zero was not that great, so it is fair to set it as T5.
"Jack" as T6.
About T7, A7M would be better.
Then "Geogre", "Shin-den", "Shin-den Kai", and "Shūsui" as the T10.

ZekeTheKamikaze #7 Posted 28 June 2012 - 09:15 PM

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I think the A7M Reppu should be in here somewhere... possibly a 6, if the Zero is a 5.

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