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Porkins_Jr #1 Posted 02 September 2016 - 04:21 PM

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It would involve WG creating a system of ratings, or maybe just use Hryunomod's...

 

EASY MODE: Anyone with a rating of 2.9 or lower. You battle against others of rating 2.9 or lower, and bots to fill out matches. Bots are all lower skill as are found on tiers 1-4 currently.

 

ADVANCED MODE: For anyone rated 3.0 or higher. You battle against only pilots of 3.0 rate or higher, with bots to fill out matches. Bots are a mix of low and veteran as found on higher tiers currently.

 

OPTION: Uncheck "bots" to battle in Advanced mode with human pilots only. Wait times will unfortunately be higher for no-bot matches.

 

This would solve a lot of the seal-clubbing and retaining new pilots. WG runs an ad blitz when the details are worked out. WG adds Clan Wars at same time to bring back vets who have left.

 

Would this "save" the game, whatever that means?


Edited by Porkins_Jr, 02 September 2016 - 04:24 PM.


dityboycom #2 Posted 02 September 2016 - 04:23 PM

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The bots are the ones seal clubbing now. To a new pilot, the bots are very un forgiving.

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losttwo #3 Posted 02 September 2016 - 04:30 PM

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I would suggest you sit down and think about your mistake .

hint : the part of separating players by what ever rating.

Which direction to look at it.  Long term play.

 

Oh never mind. The end result is everyone gets a participation trophy from being 50% WR of entropy.



Porkins_Jr #4 Posted 02 September 2016 - 04:36 PM

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This would never work with our current pop, that's why an advertising blitz would have to be done to spike the pop. With higher numbers it might work?

mnbv_fockewulfe #5 Posted 02 September 2016 - 04:44 PM

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I would only get easy mode because my stats are the result of my battle count. If I had more battles my stats would be higher. I think I'm less the 3.0 in Hryunomod and being in easy mode would be very boring for me.

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Porkins_Jr #6 Posted 02 September 2016 - 04:46 PM

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View Postmnbv_fockewulfe, on 02 September 2016 - 12:44 PM, said:

I would only get easy mode because my stats are the result of my battle count. If I had more battles my stats would be higher. I think I'm less the 3.0 in Hryunomod and being in easy mode would be very boring for me.

 

But you'd probably quickly move past 3...

mnbv_fockewulfe #7 Posted 02 September 2016 - 05:09 PM

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View PostPorkins_Jr, on 02 September 2016 - 04:46 PM, said:

 

But you'd probably quickly move past 3...

 

Never mind, I lied. I'm 3.9; the last time I calculated it was ages ago. :teethhappy:

I guess I've improved much since bots.


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GouIdy #8 Posted 02 September 2016 - 05:18 PM

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You lost us when you said it would involve WG.

Gang_Starr #9 Posted 02 September 2016 - 05:30 PM

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I would love this. 

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Mackunaima #10 Posted 02 September 2016 - 06:23 PM

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They could just bring 1.4 MM back. Pure it.

 

Maybe launch battles for 7vs 7 humans with more 3 bots for each side. Even if needed to be 2 tier spread.


Edited by Mackunaima, 02 September 2016 - 06:24 PM.

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BrushWolf #11 Posted 02 September 2016 - 06:43 PM

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The biggest problem I see with this idea is the splitting of a too small player base. The next and almost as big a problem is the average pilots in the 3.x range would now always be the seals to the 4.0 plus pilots, it is hard to improve when you don't live long enough to even know what you did wrong.

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dityboycom #12 Posted 02 September 2016 - 06:48 PM

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View PostBrushWolf, on 02 September 2016 - 02:43 PM, said:

The biggest problem I see with this idea is the splitting of a too small player base. The next and almost as big a problem is the average pilots in the 3.x range would now always be the seals to the 4.0 plus pilots, it is hard to improve when you don't live long enough to even know what you did wrong.

 

I just watched people after I died and pretended I was them. Sometimes the stuff others do is smart, other times they were just lucky.

BrushWolf #13 Posted 02 September 2016 - 07:45 PM

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View Postdityboycom, on 02 September 2016 - 01:48 PM, said:

 

I just watched people after I died and pretended I was them. Sometimes the stuff others do is smart, other times they were just lucky.

 

I did that too and as long as there is another human on your team it is still a good idea.

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pigeon_kicker #14 Posted 02 September 2016 - 08:40 PM

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Good thinking, here are my thinkings

  • The rating system, Meh, there is a "Sandbox" feature available to them that they can turn on, it separates the groups. For instance, anyone with less than 500 battles is in the sandbox to play with the kiddies.  To bad that the population is against turning this on though.
  • If it wasn't for the bots, battles would go back to sucking butt.  It would be a nice option though, default to "Bots on" maybe.
  • Most importantly, Seal clubbing is fun. But i do understand the new pilot's frustration, that is why they have to seek out the one true path. "Go get involved with a clan!"

 

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Porkins_Jr #15 Posted 02 September 2016 - 09:11 PM

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View PostGouIdy, on 02 September 2016 - 01:18 PM, said:

You lost us when you said it would involve WG.

 

Well...yeah...you have to look at it optimistically, assuming they wouldn't FUBAR it.

 

View PostGang_Starr, on 02 September 2016 - 01:30 PM, said:

I would love this. 

 

I figured you would...just the "opt out of bots" feature would probably do it for ya!

ArrowZ_ #16 Posted 03 September 2016 - 03:07 AM

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With high population yes this will work. But I wouldn't carbon copy hryonomuds rating "algorhythms" into MM. That would be just silly. Then again the guy who created hryunomod has done more than what Persha could in a decade.


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cqiyuan #17 Posted 03 September 2016 - 06:28 AM

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View PostArrowZ_, on 03 September 2016 - 03:07 AM, said:

Then again the guy who created hryunomod has done more than what Persha could in a decade.

 

Now this is true. :hiding:


death2019 #18 Posted 03 September 2016 - 06:35 AM

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So,  Is that why lexingtons alway in my side :)

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BrushWolf #19 Posted 03 September 2016 - 05:10 PM

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View Postpigeon_kicker, on 02 September 2016 - 03:40 PM, said:

Good thinking, here are my thinkings

  • The rating system, Meh, there is a "Sandbox" feature available to them that they can turn on, it separates the groups. For instance, anyone with less than 500 battles is in the sandbox to play with the kiddies.  To bad that the population is against turning this on though.
  • If it wasn't for the bots, battles would go back to sucking butt.  It would be a nice option though, default to "Bots on" maybe.
  • Most importantly, Seal clubbing is fun. But i do understand the new pilot's frustration, that is why they have to seek out the one true path. "Go get involved with a clan!"

 

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There used to be a sandbox for the new players but after the 1.5 holocaust it became a problem getting a match in the bottom tiers for both the new and the old players. 

 

The bots suck but the alternative sucks even more. One big problem with the current MM is its liking to make mostly single tier matches, some two tier, and extremely rarely three tier, which not only makes for fewer humans in the matches it also makes some planes extremely over powered because the game is still balanced around three tier matches. The MM needs to be retuned to reverse that with three and two tier matches being prefered with rare single tier ones.

 

Just getting to know the people in a few clans and flying with them will help.


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