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Bubba_Zanetti #1 Posted 14 August 2016 - 05:36 PM

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My Uncle travels from Alberta to Ontario almost every year to perform maintenance and clean his aircraft this time of year.

 

He arrived last Wednesday, and I met up with him yesterday afternoon.  His plane was still in the Hangar to my surprise.

Turns out he had to replace the tow hook that received damage over the years before it could be moved out of the hangar:

 

 

We proceeded to remove the 26 aluminum screws and nuts, him inside the tail, myself outside with worn flathead screwdriver:

 

 

 

Without tap and die, we re-threaded the screws as best we could.  Doubt the local hardware store would carry Consolidated aluminum screws.

 

 

Started mid afternoon, finished about 1:30am.

 

 

I don't know how my 79 year old Uncle managed it, but he was cramped in there between ribs, led lamp and wrench/socket applying washers and nuts.  My feet and hands ache like I haven't felt in a long time.  I left and will return again today sometime.  Plane should be out of the hangar by then.  He's planning on leaving the 20th after she's cleaned and returned to her spot where's she's been since 1965, I think he said.

 


Edited by Bubba_Zanetti, 14 August 2016 - 05:59 PM.

 

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GeorgePatton #2 Posted 14 August 2016 - 05:50 PM

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Pretty cool! What model is she?

 

 

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Chuck_norris10 #3 Posted 14 August 2016 - 05:55 PM

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View PostGeorgePatton, on 14 August 2016 - 10:50 AM, said:

Pretty cool! What model is she?

 

 

Cheers!
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I'm curios also.

Looks fairly large.


 

 


 

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Catalina?

 

 


 

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That looks like the easier softer way to repair a tow mount.

 

I remember last time i had to replace a tow mount on my Bradley.

This E-3 named Nimi ( knee-me ) was transferred to my unit and was placed as

air watch on my Bradley.

I sent him to get some 3M 100 grit sand paper so he could start sanding the broken edges.

I told him that maintenance wont weld  it unless it is smooth.

 

After about 2 hours the the Capt was shouting my name.



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CF-NJL?

If this the plane I'm thinking it is then it's rare,not too many in existence and a tip of the hat to your uncle for keeping a piece of history around.

 

https://en.wikipedia...d_PBY_Catalinas

 

I'm impressed!

Canso A 11093 CF-NJL S David Dorosh[18] / Gananoque Airport[21] Gananoque Ontario Canada

Edited by Chuck_norris10, 14 August 2016 - 06:43 PM.

 

 


 

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View PostChuck_norris10, on 14 August 2016 - 06:22 PM, said:

CF-NJL?

If this the plane I'm thinking it is then it's rare,not too many in existence and a tip of the hat the your uncle for keeping a piece of history around.

 

https://en.wikipedia...d_PBY_Catalinas

 

I'm impressed!

Canso A 11093 CF-NJL S David Dorosh[18] / Gananoque Airport[21] Gananoque Ontario Canada

 


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Flatheads, OMG I hate flatheads! :angry: The worse screw invented IMO. Working on a PBY is way cool though. :great:

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Did it see military service?

 

 


 

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View PostChuck_norris10, on 14 August 2016 - 01:53 PM, said:

Did it see military service?

 

you are thinking about Jar heads....Flat heads never saw military service.

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http://aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossier.php?Serial=9992

 

Mostly accurate, although he says he took possession in October 1960.


 

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So cool! Thanks for the info, guys! I figured it was some kind of sea-plane due to the tow hook, but didn't think it would be a PBY!

 

 

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very cool

 



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View PostBubba_Zanetti, on 14 August 2016 - 01:47 PM, said:

http://aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossier.php?Serial=9992

 

Mostly accurate, although he says he took possession in October 1960.

 

Get that Cat flying! Want buffalo Joes number?

 

 


Edited by Chuck_norris10, 15 August 2016 - 02:18 AM.

 

 


 

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View PostChuck_norris10, on 14 August 2016 - 09:16 PM, said:

 

Get that Cat flying! Want buffalo Joes number?

 

 

 

Technically, it's not a Catalina or Cat, it's a Canso made by Canadian Vickers.

 

 

Phone number?  No thanks, but a $200k donation to get her to flying status would be a start.  But then what?  No point if she's not able to make $ to justify the costs.


 

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2018 Update for those interested:

 

 

My uncle was unable to make it out last year (2017), and unfortunately this year, he was unable to take the aircraft out of the hangar to wash her down.

 

Here's a couple outside pics from 2013/2016.  He washes and then waxes the aircraft before returning her to the hangar.  Did I mention he was 79 in 2016?

 

 

 

 

 

For historical purposes, the next set show the Crown Assets sheet of available airframes.  11093 had the lowest hours since overhaul, hence why he bid on her.  She was placed in long term storage at Vulcan late 1957/early '58.  One of her sister aircraft also listed, 11094, has an interesting story to tell here.

 

The next two show the plane being prepped to fly out of Vulcan, Alberta circa early 1961 (engines being installed since the Crown sold the airframes sans engines) and ready to leave:

 

 

 

 

Now, for you bomber lovers, the next set show the markings on the wing for the loading/bomb racks as marked back when it was last overhauled.  Most existing PBY's converted since wartime wouldn't have these markings anymore.

 

Also of note in the bow picture, US PBY's would have a bombsight in the front position, and a plexiglass window with a pressure hatch covering it in case the window gave way during a water landing to prevent flooding.  RCAF didn't use a bombsight hence the riveted skin over this panel.  What is interesting though is the circular hatch that hinged inwards.  This was so during flight, the bombardier could open it up, stretch his arm through the hole, and wipe down the plexiglass panel of any debris.

 

 

 

How it currently sits in the hangar, a big target for bird droppings:

 


Edited by Bubba_Zanetti, 09 September 2018 - 09:55 PM.

 

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Man, start up a "Go Fund Me" to restore this to flight status.  Freakin' awesome.  

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View PostBobby_Tables, on 09 September 2018 - 06:25 PM, said:

Man, start up a "Go Fund Me" to restore this to flight status.  Freakin' awesome.  

no kid'n, right...

that thing prolly makes m00r noise than a hundred Harleys

 

 


if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.





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