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FreeFOXMIKE #1 Posted 12 August 2016 - 11:06 AM

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the Stealing go nuts. 

 

Maybe we can just have them completed victories only  This I think will encourage harder  fighting , and not run off new players that are fighting to get that kill only to have a more experienced "pilot" zoom in and steal it

that steal is not the worst of it that .and bots iincluded. zoom in between you and your bandit your firing at and not only claim the kill but cause you too be fined to fix their AC that was hit when it crossed your line of fire  :angry:


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anonym_omWsRkUfRM18 #2 Posted 12 August 2016 - 11:18 AM

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There's no such thing as kill stealing. If I steal from you, it's something you own. The other plane isn't dead, so you can't own a kill because it doesn't yet exist, and therefore I can't steal it.

 

That, and it's a two way street, more than one player is gunning for the same plane. There are times I've finished one off, others where someone else did. It takes a player off the other team and contributes to the win.



RedSpartacus #3 Posted 12 August 2016 - 11:26 AM

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If someone can zoom in between you and the enemy plane you're not close enough. :trollface:
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FreeFOXMIKE #4 Posted 12 August 2016 - 11:28 AM

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View PostCrazyHeinz, on 12 August 2016 - 05:18 AM, said:

There's no such thing as kill stealing. If I steal from you, it's something you own. The other plane isn't dead, so you can't own a kill because it doesn't yet exist, and therefore I can't steal it.

 

That, and it's a two way street, more than one player is gunning for the same plane. There are times I've finished one off, others where someone else did. It takes a player off the other team and contributes to the win.

 Thats a load of  it

If I get a plane to 4hp and you zoom into my line of fire to get the craft I took down to that point ----- your stealing

Now if its a close game and that kill will win it sure if you can get it faster no problem. but thats NOT the case in most time I am referring too. 

and to ad insult to injury most times the by pass the enemy on your six to do it. So drop the meta physical guff


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FreeFOXMIKE #5 Posted 12 August 2016 - 11:35 AM

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View PostRedSpartacus, on 12 August 2016 - 05:26 AM, said:

If someone can zoom in between you and the enemy plane you're not close enough. :trollface:

Yes that can be said but you fly to close to a Attack Craft and you get bombed( even the bots can do it now) But when you even get mid aired -- So that comment will not hold as much water as you think. 


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View PostFreeFOXMIKE, on 12 August 2016 - 04:28 AM, said:

 Thats a load of  it

If I get a plane to 4hp and you zoom into my line of fire to get the craft I took down to that point ----- your stealing

Now if its a close game and that kill will win it sure if you can get it faster no problem. but thats NOT the case in most time I am referring too. 

and to ad insult to injury most times the by pass the enemy on your six to do it. So drop the meta physical guff

 

I notice when you get a guy down to 4 or so HP friendly bots appear out of nowhere and try stealing your kill.:teethhappy:

 

 


 

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Many times people are going for the same plane. In other cases, you may do all of the work and then someone swoops in to finish the deed. I used to get upset at the latter. But, it balances out. I've had my fair share of 4hp kills too where someone did the work before I got there. If you want the kill, shoot more accurately and seal the deal before someone else does it. 

 

There is only one situation that annoys me that I would call kill stealing. That is when players get in your flight space. I was in a battle recently with a forum member here. Not only did he swoop in on the guy I was on the tail of, but he was bumping me and trying to push me out of the way. Not an accident as he did it twice in one match. Can't name names but it rhymes with spaghetti :-) 



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View PostChuck_norris10, on 12 August 2016 - 05:39 AM, said:

 

I notice when you get a guy down to 4 or so HP friendly bots appear out of nowhere and try stealing your kill.:teethhappy:

 

Agreed, and was stated> when player's gripe about the bots I lol to my self as they programed them just like human players act that included. 

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View PostDrewthesteelman, on 12 August 2016 - 05:39 AM, said:

Many times people are going for the same plane. In other cases, you may do all of the work and then someone swoops in to finish the deed. I used to get upset at the latter. But, it balances out. I've had my fair share of 4hp kills too where someone did the work before I got there. If you want the kill, shoot more accurately and seal the deal before someone else does it. 

 

There is only one situation that annoys me that I would call kill stealing. That is when players get in your flight space. I was in a battle recently with a forum member here. Not only did he swoop in on the guy I was on the tail of, but he was bumping me and trying to push me out of the way. Not an accident as he did it twice in one match. Can't name names but it rhymes with spaghetti :-) 

 

Not focusing on when pl ayers work together to get an AC thats hard to take down thats different. I texting about a deliberate  efforts to make the steal. No matter if they take or give damage to friendlies to do it

And faster planes that bypass the craft on my six too steal my kill as it has less HP that what galls me. 


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One time, I was chasing after a bot, and I was lined up directly behind it and another human was going for a head on. I shot down both. :trollface:

I of course apologized after I realized what happened.


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And exactly this is why the scoring system is bad in my opinion.

 

One should get credit for the kill if one has the most damage dealt to that plane (to a minimum of let's say 55%), someone else who did second most damage should get credited for the assist.

 

It's very dumb to get an ACE while you only shot 5 planes with 4% health left. It makes more sense if you get an ACE while you shot 5 planes with (55% or more) lots of damage done.

 

But of course the kill "steelers" won't approve this.


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View PostSteel_bomber_, on 12 August 2016 - 08:50 AM, said:

And exactly this is why the scoring system is bad in my opinion.

 

One should get credit for the kill if one has the most damage dealt to that plane (to a minimum of let's say 55%), someone else who did second most damage should get credited for the assist.

 

It's very dumb to get an ACE while you only shot 5 planes with 4% health left. It makes more sense if you get an ACE while you shot 5 planes with (55% or more) lots of damage done.

 

But of course the kill "steelers" won't approve this.

 

I don't agree for the reason that an enemy plane left with 1 HP has the potential to kill you or another plane of your team.
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View PostCrazyHeinz, on 12 August 2016 - 11:18 AM, said:

There's no such thing as kill stealing. If I steal from you, it's something you own. The other plane isn't dead, so you can't own a kill because it doesn't yet exist, and therefore I can't steal it.

 

That, and it's a two way street, more than one player is gunning for the same plane. There are times I've finished one off, others where someone else did. It takes a player off the other team and contributes to the win.

 

I completely agree.

Those who get grumpy about players knocking down "their" kills are missing some important points of the battle.

In my opinion there are two paramount objectives in every battle with their importance in the following order. 1. Stay alive, 2. Cause damage.

Prioritizing the kill results in target chasing thus getting set up as a target, more than likely being pulled down to lower alts, and getting taken out of contention.

The best teams are those who work together cause damage, stay alive and get kills as a group.

However, I also understand the frustration when one (or more) players purposely slip in and take out a target I have been working on.

I don't entirely disagree with what you mentioned above about overly zealous (rude) players freeFOXMIKE.

I have less issues with players taking "my" kill because I prefer to win the game more so than get kills. On the other hand, bots taking kills is another story.

I am not going to say anything about the bots and their free-for-all, no-holds-barred "bilities" to take out kills...

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It is never stealing, it is called 'SHARING''.

Your name isn't painted on the target thus it is fair game in WOWP. Heinz spoke much more eloquently so I'll just say...what he said.


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Well i certainly do not appreciate losing a tactical advantage which happens when someone ignores the one on your tail and fires on what you are about to kill

 

They run into you, they shoot through you, and somehow i'm supposed to accept that???

 

The best examples of poor team play are found in the low tiers cause the newbies will attack Ga at match start, crash trying, or tex the rear gunner for ya

 

Sadly it happens in the higher tiers and performed by wallet warriors or career sub pars

 

Its not even about the kill anymore in these cases....their greed is jacking the team and their selfish behavior ruins it for everyone

 

 

 

 


 

 

         


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View PostCrazyHeinz, on 12 August 2016 - 06:18 AM, said:

There's no such thing as kill stealing. If I steal from you, it's something you own. The other plane isn't dead, so you can't own a kill because it doesn't yet exist, and therefore I can't steal it.

 

That, and it's a two way street, more than one player is gunning for the same plane. There are times I've finished one off, others where someone else did. It takes a player off the other team and contributes to the win.

 

View PostFreeFOXMIKE, on 12 August 2016 - 06:28 AM, said:

 Thats a load of  it

If I get a plane to 4hp and you zoom into my line of fire to get the craft I took down to that point ----- your stealing

Now if its a close game and that kill will win it sure if you can get it faster no problem. but thats NOT the case in most time I am referring too. 

and to ad insult to injury most times the by pass the enemy on your six to do it. So drop the meta physical guff

 

How often do you get kills by knocking off that last 4 hp on a plane that someone else was working on? Also it isn't like this missions requirements are exceptionally hard, in fact they are rather easy and if someone flies regularly there is no reason that they shouldn't complete it, four kills and 7 wins per day is within range of even the most baked potato.

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View PostDrewthesteelman, on 12 August 2016 - 06:39 AM, said:

There is only one situation that annoys me that I would call kill stealing. That is when players get in your flight space. I was in a battle recently with a forum member here. Not only did he swoop in on the guy I was on the tail of, but he was bumping me and trying to push me out of the way. Not an accident as he did it twice in one match. Can't name names but it rhymes with spaghetti :-) 

 

You sure it wasn't you that interfered with my kill?  Anyhow, please accept this gift as a token of my sincere apology.  I would have included a bottle of Bordeaux but I think you've already had too much whine.

 


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View PostRedSpartacus, on 12 August 2016 - 02:05 PM, said:

 

I don't agree for the reason that an enemy plane left with 1 HP has the potential to kill you or another plane of your team.

 

Back in ww2 some countries shared kills, that would be more logical, like I suggested. Yes a 1% plane can kill you, but it is ridiculous that you get an ACE for killing 5 planes with 1% health, you would never get that in a war, you would not be credited for that kill.

Maybe there could be another system. like you get the assist too for the removal of the plane. But the complete kill is ridiculous.


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